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		<title>What do you live in?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1105519'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>Neo, on 08 February 2010 - 05:24 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Interesting isn't it? Most of us live in single-family homes yet actively participate on a forum for the better of the urban environment. <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I will defend myself a little in saying that my wife feels a huge need to have a lawn and space between the next house. It wouldn't bother me one bit to move into a condo with no yard, garage, etc. In fact, I prefer it having experienced that lifestyle in Chicago. Perhaps later in life we can pursue my dream of living in a space not so dependent on personal transportation. <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/blush.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blush:' /></div></div><br />
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I can say the same for me.  but add this.<br />
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most of America is still very un-urban.  its based around the suburbs and the whole white picket fence.  for example here in Greater hartford, there is almost no ability for urban living if you plan on owning.  you can do the urban living if you rent, but there is just a fledgling urban community here.  I think in its essence this is why so many of us contribute.  If Hartford had say 1000 more housing units downtown, my wife might consider buying downtown. but its a frontier right now.  heck, right now I would not buy downtown because i have almost no options, and I would not rent.  also there is not really a low/mid rise part of the city that is not 95% section 8.  some day though...   <br />
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so in order to own I go to an inner suburb.  we looked in the small part of the city thats nice, safe, walkability and all that, but its such a limited market, and we would have had the exact same thing as I got, but smaller, just as long as a commute, no yard, crazy taxes, and Id still need to drive just as much as I do now.  so I figured a seven mile commute for me and a 14 mile commute for the wife was as good as we could get given the circumstances.  but maybe someday, hopefully before we get old, we will have the opportunity to buy a sweet condo with a view in the heart of some downtown.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Let's get rid of parking lots in our downtowns]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[That picture of Houston is just awful, could you imagine having to walk out all those blocks to your car at night?  The sad thing is, if a parking structure is done 'right' with density in mind, you could have ground level offices/retail to cater to all the commuters who travel into downtown.  I have seen some done that actually have a decent facade.  I wonder what that view of Houston was like before all those surface lots came into being...<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Let's get rid of parking lots in our downtowns]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://theoverheadwire.blogspot.com/2010/02/parking-bombs.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>The Overhead Wire</a> ran a great article entitled 'Parking Bombs' that re-iterates the obvious hatred most of us have for parking lots in the downtown districts of our cities.<br />
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Unfortunately the invention of the mass produced automobile brought a lot of side affects that ruined our cities, particularly those who were just beginning to really flourish when the automobile boom started. These cities were built around the automobile and remain so, for the most part, today. Cities have bent over backwards to tear down beautiful architecture for a few parking spaces in a sea of asphalt.<br />
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Cities do seem to be filling in the asphalt scars left in our downtowns, but so much work is still left to be done. Check out this image of Houston (the city I consider to be the epitome of automobile) from the late 1980's (from <a href='http://www.amazon.com/City-Shaped-Patterns-Meanings-Through/dp/0821220160' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>The City Shaped</a>):<br />
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How can we return our urban centers to a pedestrian friendly environment without having to wait for generations?<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Are office parks worse than suburban sprawl?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My girlfriend works in a large office park, which is not very far from our city center. This park offers beautiful fountains and green area's, and even a lake. However, there are zero sidewalks, so accessing these area's is difficult at best, and there are no picnic tables or anything of the sort. Yet, there are duck crossing area's. The area has a greenway passing through it, which cannot be accessed directly from the park. Two bus lines serve the area, but there are no benches or waiting area's, only a bus stop sign stuck in the mud. It's disgusting.<br />
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On the other hand, i found a positive article about a local industrial park tenant. <a href='http://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2010/2/15/going_green_and_producing_green' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>LEED office</a><br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Are office parks worse than suburban sprawl?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1105442'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>Neo, on 08 February 2010 - 09:54 AM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Planetizen has an <a href='http://www.planetizen.com/node/42761' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>article</a> suggesting that office parks may be worse than suburban sprawl. By not being transit friendly and isolating themselves from the surrounding environment office parks are taking sprawl to an extreme level and for what reason?<br />
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Do you think office parks are worse than suburban sprawl? How can we make them more friendly to our cities or are they a lost cause?</div></div><br />
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Look at TOD! <a href='http://www.transitorienteddevelopment.org/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.transitorienteddevelopment.org/</a><br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Are office parks worse than suburban sprawl?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always saw office parks as part of suburban sprawl, so it's hard for me to answer the question.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Are office parks worse than suburban sprawl?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think office parks do constitute urban sprawl, probably one of the worst forms of it.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>What do you live in?</title>
		<link><![CDATA[http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=2564&view=findpost&p=1105519]]></link>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1105515'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>JDC, on 08 February 2010 - 06:06 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>I'm surprised there are so many here who live in single family homes!</div></div><br />
Interesting isn't it? Most of us live in single-family homes yet actively participate on a forum for the better of the urban environment. <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> I will defend myself a little in saying that my wife feels a huge need to have a lawn and space between the next house. It wouldn't bother me one bit to move into a condo with no yard, garage, etc. In fact, I prefer it having experienced that lifestyle in Chicago. Perhaps later in life we can pursue my dream of living in a space not so dependent on personal transportation. <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/blush.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blush:' /><br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Neo</author>
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		<title>Are office parks worse than suburban sprawl?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[...which has me wondering, why the determination to make office parks uninviting to pedestrians? It seems that a lot could be gained by placing the buildings on a grid, having either sidewalks or something akin to greenways (doesn't necessarily need streets connecting throughout the 'park'), and having some retail space on the ground level like Subway, fast food joints, etc.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>What do you live in?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I'm surprised there are so many here who live in single family homes! <br />
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My fiancee bought a warehouse loft in our early twenties, sold it in our mid twenties, and now in our late twenties, we rent the first floor of a duplex.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It's hard to say that one is better of worse than the other, especially because, in my view anyway, office parks are just the "suburban sprawl" manifestation of office space. <br />
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I grew up near an office park and the congestion (at 9 a.m. and 5 p.m.) was so predictable that you'd always know when to take an alternate route. What was sad about this particular park was its lack of sidewalks despite lots of lunchtime power-walkers.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Planetizen has an <a href='http://www.planetizen.com/node/42761' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>article</a> suggesting that office parks may be worse than suburban sprawl. By not being transit friendly and isolating themselves from the surrounding environment office parks are taking sprawl to an extreme level and for what reason?<br />
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Do you think office parks are worse than suburban sprawl? How can we make them more friendly to our cities or are they a lost cause?<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Neo</author>
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		<title>Interesting Planning Blogs</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I'm just gonna keep adding them as I find them.  Maybe I'll compile them when we have a bunch.<br />
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<a href='http://marketurbanism.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://marketurbanism.com/</a><br />
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Also, one of the blogs already listed has a big list of other planning-related blogs: <a href='http://urbanplanningblog.com/blogroll/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://urbanplanningblog.com/blogroll/</a><br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Do mixed income developments work?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know that a lot of cities seem to be regretting the move towards public housing ( post WWII), as they seem to become dens of crime.  Two cities that I have recently lived in (Boston & Montgomery) are both in the process of tearing down some older housing projects and replacing them with mixed income developments.<br />
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First off, I'm not entirely sure what a "mixed income development" is.  I would assume that it has units, houses, apartments, or whatever set aside for different income levels, but I may be wrong.<br />
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Does anyone know (a) what they are, (b) how they affect growth, design, and safety, and &copy; do they work in terms of "cleaning up" neighborhoods?<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>What do you live in?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A house actually. Are you at USC (the less prestigious one) Spartan? I've been there (and we'll just leave it at that).<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[&#34;Fake Hills&#34; residential project]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meh.  Interesting looking, but the design seems more like a gimmick than something I would call architecture.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Daniel Burnham Documentary</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am very interested in seeing this documentary...<a href='http://blip.tv/play/AYGY7mcC' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>PREVIEW: MAKE NO LITTLE PLANS</a><br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Interesting Planning Blogs</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One problem with some of the planning blogs: they're not maintained by planners, but rather by urbanists, academics, those working for think tanks, and so on.  That's not to say they're not intelligent reads, but it's difficult to find blogs that are actually written by planners.  I understand why a "hard planning" blog might seem boring in comparison to those that are more urbanist-oriented.<br />
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The Planning Commissioners Journal blog (<a href='http://pcj.typepad.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://pcj.typepad.com/</a>) is an excellent resource for "citizen planners" such as planning commissioners, as well as for regular "planner planners".  Law of the Land (<a href='http://lawoftheland.wordpress.com' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://lawoftheland.wordpress.com</a>) is required reading for zoning geeks.  There's others out there, but I'm too tired to compose a comprehensive post.<br />
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Shameless self-promotion: I've got an aggregator of planning/urbanism blogs (<a href='http://www.cyburbia.org/buzz/planning_and_urbanism' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.cyburbia.org/buzz/planning_and_urbanism</a>) and transportation-related blogs (<a href='http://www.cyburbia.org/buzz/transportation' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.cyburbia.org/buzz/transportation</a>), among others.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<author>Cyburbia</author>
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		<title>Interesting Planning Blogs</title>
		<link><![CDATA[http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=50531&view=findpost&p=1102222]]></link>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1102041'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>TheBostonian, on 09 January 2010 - 12:37 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Another: <a href='http://urbanplanningblog.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://urbanplanningblog.com/</a></div></div><br />
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design newhaven<br />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Selling a very nice little townhome style condo and buying a historic SFH. <br />
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I am psyched as all hell, but kind of bummed that I am going to lose a ton of walkability.  <br />
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I do however gain over 2000SF and a lawn among other things.  I will always love and miss this condo however.  <br />
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Here is what I have to look forward to however.  damn near my dream house<br />
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<img src='http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/VOR_photos/Ehartford/MyHouse.jpg' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /><br />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>How is your city dealing with the recession?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For Buffalo, since the regional economy has been in the doldrums since the 1970s, it seems like business as usual.  With no real estate bubble, there was no bust.  There are problems with vacant housing units in Buffalo's troubled East Side, but the foreclosure crisis mostly bypassed the city and region.  It's one of the few parts of the country where residential real estate prices continue to rise, albiet slowly.  Excepting a few neighborhoods, in the Buffalo area, a house is a roof over your head; not an investment.<br />
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The pace of new commercial and retail development hasn't slowed a bit, and in the case of the city of Buffalo, it's actually accelerated a bit.  Gentrification continues to transform Elmwood Village and North Buffalo, but real estate prices remain reasonable by national standards.  The suburban streetcar suburbs like Kenmore, Snyder, and Williamsville seem to have been rediscovered by young professional homebuyers.<br />
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Of course, being a planner ... it's looking bad in the field.  The only bright sports are transportation, where there's stimulus money.  Many local governments have hiring freezes or are laying off planners.  Politically, it's easier to let planners go than public safety workers, even if police and fire departments are overstaffed.<br />
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Sam: in suburban Austin, development in Hutto has ground to a halt.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[&#34;Fake Hills&#34; residential project]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting architecture exists in every corner of the world, but this project is quite unusual. I'm not sure what to think of it...other than it may be a bit too overdone. <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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This <a href='http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/9/view/8664/mad-architects-fake-hills.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>blog</a> has more photos and information on the project, but here is a rendering. It is currently under construction<br />
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The initial concept for the SUNY University at Buffalo North Campus by Gordon Bunshaft was similar: a mile-long, multi-story building built around a central horizontal elevator corridor and open atrium.<br />
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In large campus settings, there's an advantage to having many smaller structures over a megastructure; if a building needs to be replaced, the overall costs will be much smaller relative to the cost of the entire physical plant of the campus, and there is far less disruption to the campus as a whole.  Not so with a megastructure.  Same thing with maintenance. <br />
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Just as there's an economy of scale, there's also an economy of granularity, so to speak.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 06:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>What do you live in?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am buying a SFH in the burbs. Never thought I would end up here. Now only if I could move the house a few miles toward our fledgling downtown...  <img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /><br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Interesting Planning Blogs</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another: <a href='http://urbanplanningblog.com/' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://urbanplanningblog.com/</a><br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the structure could be broken up. This wouldn't be that big of a deal since items like transit, electrical, etc. would be running under street level. At that point though, what makes it any different than row houses I suppose...<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember seeing something like this when i was a kid.  it was larger in scale and "proposed" to cover the boston to Philly corridore.<br />
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to me its nuts in todays world.  the efficiencies gained in some areas are lost in the length of the linear development.  <br />
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also it assumes people are ok with egalitarianism.  I currently live in a town home condo, and I can no longer stand it.  my townhome is effectively like this road, but just 11 units long, not 11,000,000<br />
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here is the other thing, in say hartford, a far cry from urban utopia, you can walk out of your apartment, and walk a block or 2 and get to a bodega for needed supplies.  that bodega serves the surrounding blocks.  an area that I will call 4 blocks(the are I am thinking about has elongated blocks).  these 2 blocks have 60 buildings that are 3-5 family dwellings, 27 buildings that are 5-20 unit buildings, and 4, 100 unit buildings.<br />
you can walk that 1-2 blocks from any of these  900 housing units and get to this bodega.  <br />
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in a linear city 900 units in that low rise design (maybe 15-20 feet wide oer unit) would stretch at least 3 miles end to end.   so, where do you put the bodega?<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 05:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The heating/cooling could be geothermal, that would certainly assist with the sustainability aspect and the long-term costs. It is an interesting idea as it would allow for residents to have things like gardens that really isn't doable (aside from a couple of potted tomato plants) when you live in a high-rise unit.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too like the layout and livability of row houses, but this is appealing while keeping many 'urban' aspects like density and traffic distribution. There could probably be a couple more smaller streets connecting things here, but overall it is very respectable IMO.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>The rise and fall or Urban centers</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its funny, because in a robust urban core, the condo or apartment towers lobby or lounge as well as the office building lobby can often act as part of this collective 3rd place you speak of.<br />
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I know my old office has a food court built into it.  this was once kind of a mall, but it had people in it all the time.  sometimes just 30-40, but at lunch it was a community space with hundreds and hundreds of visitors.  the plaza outside added to this space on nicer days.  the food court has wifi, and small meetings happen there all th time.<br />
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my wifes office, was conciderably more formal, and her building lobby has a very inviting sitting area with a waterfall, a tv and wifi.  when I go to the bank (just so happens to be in her old office building) I am always tempted to take a break and chill there before heading abck to work.  <br />
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I think connecting these formal spaces with the commercial gathering places makes for a network of place.<br />
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the meetings that happen in these places always amuse me.  I saw the police chief, the fire chief, the emergency service chief and some other guy all meeting at starbucks once.  very amusing to me.  they each have offices and conference rooms, but they chose a very public noisy place to get together.  so they could interact more comfortably I am sure.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like the Great Wall of China.<br />
I'd feel bad for all the wildlife stuck on either side.<br />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>The rise and fall or Urban centers</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1101350'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>urbanvb, on 02 January 2010 - 01:36 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>As far as how the internet has changed people I agree it has been a big change but I think more and more people are desiring human contact and now taking your laptop to coffee shops, the mall and even restaurants is becoming more commonplace. Any weekend go to Panera and you will find plenty of people with their laptops surfing and doing school work, etc. Even Barnes and Noble is offering free wi fi these days. Of course I realize a large reason of the offerings is to pull people into their establishments to spend money. All and all, urban centers are doing well but surely the recession has slowed down the progress but hopefully soon things will turn around.</div></div><br />
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Interestingly, I think that decades of consumer culture had almost entirely erased our "want" for inclusive urban centers. I suppose you could trace it back to the mall-culture of the 80's, when Main Street was replaced by a climate controlled, artificial and programmed civic center.<br />
But as with most trends, we tend to seek out the next thing, even as we are in the teeth of the current trend. So I get turned off by the mall and look back to the shell of our urban center for a truer experience. Retailers follow the consumer - and I can't say whether the majority of consumers will follow me (and you) back to the urban centers, but I hope so.<br />
Lets face it, retailers are certainly watching closely to find what the next <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Place' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Third Place</a> will be. Places like Starbucks, and Panera, and Barnes and Nobel surely understand the draw of community shopping. And they market themselves heavily this way to make an emotional connection (see free wi-fi, coffee, comfy couches).  But you can only spend so much time in Starbucks before you go crazy. There needs to be something more - Starbucks can not be "the Third Place," -merely PART OF "a Third Place." <br />
This is where it gets complicated. Because a successful city will have to note that Third Places are not built only by clustering Starbucks and Barnes and Nobel in one corner of the city. They are a sort of private/public partnership wherein the city and the retailer must understand the potential for the district and create a comfortable place for neighbors inside and outside the retail walls. Otherwise, you will only have as much social interaction as permitted by driving your car from your house to Starbucks and back.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was reading a blog and came across this subdivision plan proposed in suburban Milwaukee.<br />
My initial reaction was to hate it because it looks like every other snaking subdivision in the country - one that gobbles up natural resources with oversized houses and oversized SUVS. <br />
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But looking more closely, the only thing that really bothers me is the curvature of the road. My default is that a block by block street grid is most ideal - but I've started to understand that not everyone likes to look down a row of houses and see their neighbors. I can understand (although it's not my preference).<br />
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So I look more closely, and I think this subdivision has a good amount of merit.<br />
The density is respectable. <br />
The ratio of natural areas to paved surfaces is good. <br />
Pedestrian access and protected human areas are very good for suburbia. <br />
The snaking roads may not cut back on speeding traffic as well as alternating stop signs at cross grid streets, but it will cut back on speeding more than other feeder roads.<br />
The central park is great.<br />
And it seems like there is a shared natural area behind each circle of houses.<br />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haveing not traveled a lot I can only speak for my city of Va Beach. During the boom we benefited greatly as the Town Center grew and now holds the tallest tower in Va. Of course the last couple of years have been tough and the next phase is going slower than I would have liked. Also, nearby vital pieces of land conducive for urban growth are just sitting there. I am hoping in the next 12-24 mos that things will turn around. The long term plan for VA Beach is amazing with over 50 urban blocks hoping to be rezoned from suburban and being redevelopled. Nearby urban centers though have lots of urban apartments and condos going up and it will be some time before these are fully sold or rented out. Now light rail is being built and will be up and running soon,hopefully this will  hasten TOD offerings. As far as how the internet has changed people I agree it has been a big change but I think more and more people are desiring human contact and now taking your laptop to coffee shops, the mall and even restaurants is becoming more commonplace. Any weekend go to Panera and you will find plenty of people with their laptops surfing and doing school work, etc. Even Barnes and Noble is offering free wi fi these days. Of course I realize a large reason of the offerings is to pull people into their establishments to spend money. All and all, urban centers are doing well but surely the recession has slowed down the progress but hopefully soon things will turn around.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think telecommuting will grow in the coming years, but it won't replace the office. The fact is that much of our work life really revolves around "face time" and interaction. There is only so much one can do on the computer. And ironically, the further up you go, where telecommuting becomes more "acceptable", the less likely you are going to have stuff you can do from home. People will still enjoy the escape from distractions at the office, but only some of the time.<br />
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I do think more cloud based computing is going to actually cause companies to centralize. It becomes easier for everything to be done remotely from a central office. In the long run I think this will have an interesting reaction effect - smaller companies that can more readily respond to their customers by being local. So I think we will have a kind of duopoly there.<br />
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I don't think there is one prediction, though, for the future of the city. Those cities which focus on manufacturing and industry and big business I think will see a decline as headquarters move out to the suburbs, workers go outside the city for lower costs of living, and the inner cities become the less desirable neighborhoods. But those cities that intentionally or not focus on small knowledge and creativity companies will create a urban culture that actually draws people in. Lastly, I think the idea of city and suburb is going to change itself. Suburbs become less bedroom communities and more miniature cities. Likewise, cities are starting to green up and focus on the smaller scale, thus become less metropolises and more dense neighborhoods.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People have been talking about the decentralization of companies for years, but nothing ever comes of it. Sure you have more people who work from home, but ultimately human to human contact is essential, and unless you're in IT, you need to be able to walk over to the next office and ask your colleague a question rather than call/text/email and hope that they pick up or answer. Aside from that, America is becoming an increasingly urban nation. People view dense cities as those with the highest quality of life. People are increasingly seeing value in a high quality urban center, even in small cities. The future of our urban cores has never been brighter. <br />
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Even my home town of Spartanburg has seen value by investing in downtown and rebuilding it into a place where people want to go, rather than a place people avoid.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link><![CDATA[http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=51067&view=findpost&p=1100991]]></link>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1100976'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>The Escapists, on 29 December 2009 - 08:58 AM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>One thing that strikes me is how telecommuting (and online shopping, etc.) could potentially change society. I feel like I can already see it happening; as people can do more and more with their computers - work, shop, play - could it be that the need for "urban centers" may diminish? Why would you go into an office when you are more productive at home? Why would you go to Barnes and Noble, when you can find a bigger selection at Amazon.com? Why would you go to the mall arcade when you have Xbox at home connected to the internet? <br />
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So what are the futures of urban centers? They MUST remain vital to the community - to bring people together, to interact and learn from each other. Look back over my list and understand that a home office does not foster the same competitive and collaborative environment as a traditional workplace. A search on Amazon.com does not provide the opportunity to take suggestions from strangers in the dusty isles of a used book store. And a 14 year old boy will certainly not find a girlfriend sitting at home playing Xbox.<br />
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Hopefully, someone out there understands that the "urban center" is not necessarily about commerce, it's about civic productivity.</div></div><br />
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Good point Neo, and I like the further assessment by the escapist.<br />
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I think meeting in person will always be a part of humanity, so cities need to foster the human aspect more than say business.  as we get to the point where all we need is our Blackberry to do our job, the office is a nebulous concept.  I know I thrive in the office, and while working from home am frustrated by the lag, and connectivity issues that occasionally happen.  quick questions are never quick, and comraderie does not exist.  so I will always prefer an office.  but the work force can definately be more mobile now. <br />
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I wonder if this will lead to corporations eliminating satalite offices more and more.  The HQ would be maintained, and larger % of the work force would be remote, but check in at the HQ monthly or whatever. <br />
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which industries will this affect the most, and therefore which cities?<br />
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How, in other ways will cities you know well be affected by recent changes in the corporate landscape or maybe by the built enviroment?<br />
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I know some cities were begining to become condo living cities, like Houston and LA, but those projects seem to have died.  will those places ever make the change over?  how about other cities?  I know Minneapolis has built enough downtown housing that it should be viewed as a legitimate condo living city.  I think there is still a ways to go before it is truely mature, but this last boom did great things up there in Minneapolis.  how about Charlotte? I know some condos were built, was it enough?  I know Hartford, just barely has its foot in the door.  there is a long long way to go here, but just enough was built to make it concivable to live downtown.  I think we went from a couple hundered to 2000+ downtown residents.  I think Minneapolis has over 10,000 now.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'><a class='snapback' rel='citation' href='http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=1100911'><img src='http://www.saveaplanet.org/cdn/img/public/style_images/up2010a/snapback.png' alt='View Post' /></a>Neo, on 28 December 2009 - 04:17 PM, said:</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Decentralization may in fact be the future as telecommuting becomes even more prevalent. I'm not sure this is positive for our urban centers as folks will obviously spread out into the suburban landscape. Telecommuting is a win/win for most companies and employees with the biggest advantage that it saves both a great deal of money by not having to keep up a centralized location or travel to one.<br />
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Things could also play out differently as folks get tired of dealing with choking traffic and wish to move to a more dense urban environment where they can walk or take mass transit for shopping, dining, etc.</div></div><br />
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One thing that strikes me is how telecommuting (and online shopping, etc.) could potentially change society. I feel like I can already see it happening; as people can do more and more with their computers - work, shop, play - could it be that the need for "urban centers" may diminish? Why would you go into an office when you are more productive at home? Why would you go to Barnes and Noble, when you can find a bigger selection at Amazon.com? Why would you go to the mall arcade when you have Xbox at home connected to the internet? <br />
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So what are the futures of urban centers? They MUST remain vital to the community - to bring people together, to interact and learn from each other. Look back over my list and understand that a home office does not foster the same competitive and collaborative environment as a traditional workplace. A search on Amazon.com does not provide the opportunity to take suggestions from strangers in the dusty isles of a used book store. And a 14 year old boy will certainly not find a girlfriend sitting at home playing Xbox.<br />
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Hopefully, someone out there understands that the "urban center" is not necessarily about commerce, it's about civic productivity.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Decentralization may in fact be the future as telecommuting becomes even more prevalent. I'm not sure this is positive for our urban centers as folks will obviously spread out into the suburban landscape. Telecommuting is a win/win for most companies and employees with the biggest advantage that it saves both a great deal of money by not having to keep up a centralized location or travel to one.<br />
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Things could also play out differently as folks get tired of dealing with choking traffic and wish to move to a more dense urban environment where they can walk or take mass transit for shopping, dining, etc.<br><br><b>View information on projects and add your own in our new Project Database: [<a href="http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/page/databases/project_db">Link</a>]</b>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking into the last say 60 years since WWII, many factors have shaped the growth, vibrancy, and ultimately success of our cities.<br />
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Suburbanization, the rise of the automobile, the highway system etc, made Detroit a boom town and now a poster child of urban failings.  The tech boom led to the power wealth and success of San Jose, and Silicone valley.  Deep water ports made NY a shipping powerhouse, and later on Finance has again reinvinted the city.  <br />
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For whatever reason, we reached the year 2007 with our cities the way they were.  Now 3 years later, we are just begining to emerge from a recession.  Some might say we are bottoming out.  regardless, massive shifts have changed the present and the future of our cities.<br />
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What changes in the work force, corporate landscape, built environment etc, have pushed your city or region in a new direction?  where are things going from here?<br />
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In Hartford, we never really got the boom, but during this recession, some corporate moves might well place is on a strong path to recovery.<br />
Stanley works, is buying Black and Decker, effectively doubling the size of the firm.  ING will be spinning off its $20+ Billion North American Insurance unit.  All indications are that the company will be Headquartered in Hartford(windsor) United Technologies has made several mergers, and although they are shipping more manufacturing jobs South, the company is stronger than ever and growing like crazy.  The New CEO of Cigna plans on staying in Hartford rather than moving to Philly.  this might move the HQ to Hartford eventually.  Other insurance companies that were at a real risk of dissapearing have rebounded well, including The Hartford.  the long term future is still cloudy, but survival is more likely than not.<br />
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Mass transit is coming to town in the form of a 3 city commuter rail with 11 stops including the airport.  this project has been in the works for a while, but will likely happen by 2015.  This would almost certainly pull Springfield into the Hartford MSA (I have no idea how it is not currently) and also further bind New Haven to Hartford.  The added connectivity to New York City can't hurt either.  <br />
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The "boom" allowed Hartford to jump start its downtown residential revolution and with a market annunced last week, it seems as though enough was done to fuel future interest.  we will see, but I am optimistic that additional downtown residential projects are not far off.<br />
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anyone else care to add?  have comments on how your region was affected, and how you see the future playing out?<br />
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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