Davidson Southeast: Antioch, Century Farms, East of Brentwood

[rookzie]

Sylvan Park Diner on 8th Avenue finally closing.  I had many a greasy breakfast there over the past dozen years. Wonder what the new development will be?  It is surrounded by new brand new apartment/condos.  Could either be a smaller complex tucked in between, or perhaps a new restaurant.  With  more than 1,800 new units and hundreds of new houses within 4 blocks that are finished or UC, there really is a shortage of quality eateries along that stretch of 8th Avenue South. 

http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/2015/10/01/sylvan-park-restaurant-closes-berry-hill/73137738/

..It's also been not far from the back of my mind on the eventual (if not imminent) reDev of the old Biltmore Motor Hotel Court complex ─ that is, what's left of it (the south wing).  Actually the array of contiguous parcels along that side of Franklin Road, has been a hodgepodge of curiosity, as storied as it has been fabled.

It's been rumored that Don Gibson wrote the hit lyrics “Oh Lonesome Me” and “I Can’t Stop Loving You” at the Biltmore, but that doesn't pre-empt the property to merit preservation, IMO.  Hell, he could have just the same written them in my crib, but I wouldn't push for not getting it torn down, if it were a slum.  The nearby Athens restaurant, across the parking plaza, probably is a reincarnation but no longer recognizable element of the former Court campus.

 

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[MLBrumby]

You're a wealth of historical info... but what strikes me (pun intended) is that those matchbooks appear to be ones that you have in your possession.  Amazing to see the 5-digit phone number... that had to predate WW2... but then air conditioning and TV came after the war... How long did Nashville use 5-digits? And are you a collector of Nash mementos? 

Edited October 3, 2015 by MLBrumby

[Neigeville2]

..It's also been not far from the back of my mind on the eventual (if not imminent) reDev of the old Biltmore Motor Hotel Court complex ─ that is, what's left of it (the south wing).  Actually the array of contiguous parcels along that side of Franklin Road, has been a hodgepodge of curiosity, as storied as it has been fabled.

It's been rumored that Don Gibson wrote the hit lyrics “Oh Lonesome Me” and “I Can’t Stop Loving You” at the Biltmore, but that doesn't pre-empt the property to merit preservation, IMO.  Hell, he could have just the same written them in my crib, but I wouldn't push for not getting it torn down, if it were a slum.  The nearby Athens restaurant, across the parking plaza, probably is a reincarnation but no longer recognizable element of the former Court campus.

 

 

 

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This is exactly the kind of quirky, unusual building I hate to lose, regardless of what its history is.  It's cool.  Definitely cooler than whatever will replace it in our era of banal, cheap-looking architecture.  I would love to see it developed into some kind of micro retail like that place pn Fatherland where High Garden is.

That Sylvan Park restaurant, on the other hand, can't be gone quick enough IMO.  Vile on both culinary and architectural levels.

[rookzie]

You're a wealth of historical info... but what strikes me (pun intended) is that those matchbooks appear to be ones that you have in your possession.  Amazing to see the 5-digit phone number... that had to predate WW2... but then air conditioning and TV came after the war... How long did Nashville use 5-digits? And are you a collector of Nash mementos? 

Well, I cannot tell a lie ─ at least not this one time, that is.  I do recall the old city limits predating the Metro Govt consolidation of 1963, and that it took many years before most recognizable vestiges of the old boundaries finally became obscure.  No, that matchbox is not mind mine, as the only one in my possession is a stainless-steel miniature rigid box etched with "Zephyrus" (Greek God of the West Wind), a souvenir of the material used to construct the 1934 Pioneer Zephyr passenger train (Denver-Chicago).  That Biltmore trinket is all displayed online at the Historic Nashville Web site:

  Biltmore Hotel Court and Restaurant
  https://historicnashville.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/biltmore-hotel-court-and-restaurant/

  Biltmore Hotel Courts and Restaurant
  https://historicnashville.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/biltmore-hotel-courts-and-restaurant/

I just happen to have recalled things in the old town before the interstates, when US-31/31A/31E/31W, 41/41A, 70/70S were all main drags  and vied to trap one's attention with amusingly tacky arrays of signage.  When Drive-ins still were king (Montague, Warner Park, Colonial, Crescent, Skyway, Bordeaux, Bel-Air, Sumner, Lebanon Road,)  The Friday night entertainment back then clearly had been distributed along the extremities of arterial spokes.

As far as air-conditioning is concerned, you and I do seem to recall when it was a big deal to advertise AC as an amenity, at restaurants, hotels, passenger trains, and both intercity and city-buses.  Nashville didn't see AC on city-buses until 1959 with the first order of GM new-look "Fishbowl" windshield coaches (yellow and silver).  Then the Nashville Transit Co, retrofitted many more older ones with a tacked-on roof-mounted air duct and Thermo-King^® rear top-mounted mechanical units (truly comfortable but eyesores).

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Edited October 3, 2015 by rookzie
misspelling

[dmillsphoto]

The rest of Oldacre McDonald property has been purchased.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/blog/real-estate/2015/10/with-beaman-deal-done-massive-antioch-project-now.html?ana=twt

Edited October 5, 2015 by dmillsphoto

[markhollin]

Metro Parks & REcreation recommends demolishing Greer Stadium, discusses options after that...

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2015/10/07/parks-department-recommends-greer-stadium-demolition/73444514/

[rookzie]

Metro Parks & REcreation recommends demolishing Greer Stadium, discusses options after that...

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2015/10/07/parks-department-recommends-greer-stadium-demolition/73444514/

I wish that they would incorporate any redev of the Greer property with the restoration/replication of the Fort itself on that hill, rather than mere stabilization of what remains of the partial battlement.  With nearby ASC (Adventure Science Center), as well as the ongoing WeHo transformation, an at least partially enhanced and interactive Ft. Negley could be yet another prominent theme of tourism, rather than a mere vestigial trove of blocks and overgrown trees.  With the city of Nashville once considered on the cusp of the Grey and the Blue, Ft. Negley evolved as an ethnic confluence of resources and purposes during its establishment (a wide and storied dichotomy of mutually exclusive timeline settings). This alone renders it historically of unusual significance.
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Edited October 8, 2015 by rookzie

[markhollin]

I wish that they would incorporate any redevelop of the Greer property with the restoration/replication of the Fort itself on that hill, rather than mere stabilization of what remains of the partial battlement.  With nearby ASC (Adventure Science Center), as well as the ongoing WeHo transformation, an at least partially enhanced and interactive Ft. Negley could be yet another prominent theme of tourism, rather than a mere vestigial trove of blocks and overgrown trees.  With the city of Nashville once considered on the cusp of the Grey and the Blue, Ft. Negley evolved as an ethnic confluence of resources and purposes during its establishment (a wide and storied dichotomy of mutually exclusive timeline settings). This alone renders it historically of unusual significance.
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Agree fully. I always thought a full-on Civil War museum should be established there.  At one point I projected that it might be interesting to have that in the Adventure Science Center structure, and relocate the ASC to a new facility near the Bicentennial Mall (kind of like how the Smithsonian Institute is along the National Mall in Washington DC). This new Civil War Museum would border right on the Fort Negley property,and new stairs/trails could be constructed right from the back of the facility upwards. Have also felt that an observation tower could be built on the northern edge of the ASC properly for spectacular views of downtown (this, of course, could happen no matter who was the tenant of that building.) Any ways that we can encourage tourists to stay an additional day in town will be great for the economy.

[UTgrad09]

Museum campus!

Civil War Museum/Nashville History Museum

Natural History Museum

Nashville Local Art Museum (all Mid Tenn artists)

Adventure Science Center

[smeagolsfree]

How about an adult entertainment complex and just have everything in one place.with a homeless encampment

[rookzie]

How about an adult entertainment complex and just have everything in one place.with a homeless encampment

That emoticon chain is not complete, to be able to symbolize that, though (maybe the first one is a stretch).
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Edited October 8, 2015 by rookzie

[smeagolsfree]

I didn't realize how the first one looked. LMAO. Supposed to be shock but understand it could be taken differently. OMG

BTW, on a different note in the same are, the signs with renderings are up for the two Core projects on Martin. The second one had  not, and still has not gone public, but that is about to change.

[smeagolsfree]

Here is the info on Twelve 60 Martin. Seems like I found out about this one a number of months ago. This is another Core project.

 

 

https://www.nashvillepost.com/blogs/postbusiness/2015/10/9/site_show_industrial_esque_residential_building_eyed_for_wedgewood_hous

Edited October 10, 2015 by smeagolsfree

[markhollin]

Had a nice lunch with my district's new councilman, Colby Sledge.  Among various topics, I asked what his thoughts were regarding the redevelopment of the Greer Stadium and Fairgrounds sites.  In both cases, he believes they will both become primarily large parks/green space, with some soccer fields, softball diamonds, large playgrounds, dog parks, jogging/bike trails, half-pipes, pavilions, areas for weekly farmers' markets, etc.  He thinks that as those neighborhoods grow denser with houses, apartment/condo complexes, and more businesses that there will be much greater need for larger park spaces than currently exist on that side of town.  

[chelovek]

Had a nice lunch with my district's new councilman, Colby Sledge.  Among various topics, I asked what his thoughts were regarding the redevelopment of the Greer Stadium and Fairgrounds sites.  In both cases, he believes they will both become primarily large parks/green space, with some soccer fields, softball diamonds, large playgrounds, dog parks, jogging/bike trails, half-pipes, pavilions, areas for weekly farmers' markets, etc.  He thinks that as those neighborhoods grow denser with houses, apartment/condo complexes, and more businesses that there will be much greater need for larger park spaces than currently exist on that side of town.  

DOG PARK is sorely needed! bring it on! They should let people use the Greer Stadium field as an enormous dog park until it is time for demo.

It would also be nice to step back a little bit and look at the relationship between Ft. Negley Park, the Cemetery, Rose Park and Reservoir Park. Would be great to link all of these green spaces together.

Edited October 13, 2015 by chelovek

[MLBrumby]

The mixed use project (apartments, condos and retail) by two developers (Alliance - apartments and Eighth South - condos) is scheduled for completion in Q1 of 2017. 

"The 6.41-acre former home of Colonial Bakery at 2407 Franklin Pike straddles Nashville and the satellite city of Berry Hill. A little over half or about 168 of the 330 apartment units Alliance plans will be in Berry Hill with the remainder in Metro."

http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/real-estate/2015/10/14/redevelopment-colonial-bakery-site-advances/73956164/

[MetroTN]

I know the Ford Ice Center isnt new but today was my first time there. Id like to say its an exceptional space both inside and outside. I met friends there this afternoon for casual skating which is both affordable and fun. 

I love how they have Ford vehicle parking in the first two rows. I dont drive a Ford but it seems cute to me that they did that. 

The following pic is of the community center next door. I didnt go in but it looked good outside. 

I personally really like the Bell Rd area. It seems nice and there's a lot nearby. 

[markhollin]

Possible redesign with fewer units on Bristol development at site of Tabernacle Baptist on 12th Avenue South:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/homes/2015/10/21/fewer-units-explored-12south-church-property/74348524/

[markhollin]

More details announced on The Finery at Twelve60 Martin complex in Wedgewood/Houston area:

http://nashvillepost.com/news/2015/10/23/core_in_talks_with_prospective_finery_tenants

 

 

[markhollin]

Bill Freeman editorial on Fairgrounds revival/redevelopment:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/opinion/contributors/2015/10/26/fairgrounds-can-successful-ascend-amphitheater/74458280/

[Melrose]

Bill Freeman editorial on Fairgrounds revival/redevelopment:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/opinion/contributors/2015/10/26/fairgrounds-can-successful-ascend-amphitheater/74458280/

Freeman continues (as he did on the campaign) to reference Oklahoma City's Fairgrounds, where they discontinued auto racing about 5 years ago.  If only they would do that here.  

The comparison to the Amphitheater is frankly bizarre because the Amphitheater is downtown and not located in the middle of a residential neighborhood.  The Fairgrounds is terribly located to be a commercial venue with any increased attendance. Instead any development should be done to activate the space for the surrounding neighborhood's use so that it does not sit like an unused blighted mess for 300 days a year.  

[smeagolsfree]

I read that yesterday and the numbers visiting OKC fairgrounds according to the article are less that's what is visiting Nashville fairgrounds now. Sort of defeats his own idea. 

[dmillsphoto]

Quick note from a drive earlier for food. This house had a fence in the driveway stating no trespassing. It sits on the footprint of the CHS expansion.

[nashwatcher]

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2015/10/28/murfreesboro-pike-site-considered-metro-police-hq/74751032/

Police HQ now considered for Murfreesboro Pike property (where the criminal justice center is also locating). With the proximity of this area to downtown, and affordable land for developments, I wouldn't be surprised if this area sees strong growth pretty soon.

[markhollin]

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2015/10/28/murfreesboro-pike-site-considered-metro-police-hq/74751032/

Police HQ now considered for Murfreesboro Pike property (where the criminal justice center is also locating). With the proximity of this area to downtown, and affordable land for developments, I wouldn't be surprised if this area sees strong growth pretty soon.

Agreed.  With the explosion of activity just to the west of that area in Chestnut Hill, it is bound to have some flow over towards Lafayette/Murfreesboro Rd. as well.