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[SOCOM]

Rank Airport Name City ST CY 2003 Enplanements

1 Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta Intl Atlanta GA 38,893,670
2 Chicago O'Hare Intl Chicago IL 32,920,387
3 Los Angeles Intl Los Angeles CA 26,239,584
4 Dallas/Fort Worth Intl Fort Worth TX 24,976,881
5 Phoenix Sky Harbor Intl Phoenix AZ 18,252,853
6 Denver Intl Denver CO 17,969,754
7 McCarran Intl Las Vegas NV 17,097,738
8 George Bush Intercontinental Houston TX 16,134,684
9 Minneapolis - St Paul Intl Wold - Chamberlain Minneapolis MN 16,022,988
10 Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Detroit MI 15,754,017
11 John F Kennedy Intl New York NY 15,676,352
12 Newark Liberty Intl Newark NJ 14,628,708
13 Miami Intl Miami FL 14,198,321
14 San Francisco Intl San Francisco CA 14,079,173
15 Orlando Intl Orlando FL 13,375,162
16 Seattle - Tacoma Intl Seattle WA 13,109,153
17 Philadelphia Intl Philadelphia PA 11,870,928
18 Charlotte/Douglas Intl Charlotte NC 11,465,366
19 La Guardia New York NY 11,367,309
20 General Edward Lawrence Logan Intl Boston MA 11,087,799
21 Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Intl Covington KY 10,449,930
22 Lambert - St Louis Intl St Louis MO 9,922,456
23 Baltimore - Washington Intl Glen Burnie MD 9,768,040
24 Honolulu Intl Honolulu HI 9,044,409
25 Salt Lake City Intl Salt Lake City UT 8,958,003
26 Chicago Midway Intl Chicago IL 8,687,215
27 Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood Intl Fort Lauderdale FL 8,682,781
28 Washington Dulles Intl Chantilly VA 8,050,506
29 Tampa Intl Tampa FL 7,672,533
30 San Diego Intl San Diego CA 7,565,196
31 Pittsburgh Intl Pittsburgh PA 7,113,460
32 Ronald Reagan Washington National Arlington VA 6,813,148
33 Metropolitan Oakland Intl Oakland CA 6,638,343
34 Portland Intl Portland OR 6,059,860
35 Memphis Intl Memphis TN 5,411,496
36 Norman Y Mineta San Jose Intl San Jose CA 5,104,201
37 Cleveland - Hopkins Intl Cleveland OH 5,012,446
38 Kansas City Intl Kansas City MO 4,860,047
39 Luis Munoz Marin Intl San Juan PR 4,706,846
40 Louis Armstrong New Orleans Intl Metairie LA 4,647,706
41 Sacramento Intl Sacramento CA 4,390,847
42 John Wayne Airport - Orange County Santa Ana CA 4,266,083
43 Nashville Intl Nashville TN 3,943,236
44 Raleigh - Durham Intl Raleigh NC 3,938,925
45 William P Hobby Houston TX 3,703,767
46 Indianapolis Intl Indianapolis IN 3,673,648
47 Austin - Bergstrom Intl Austin TX 3,177,889
48 San Antonio Intl San Antonio TX 3,120,098
49 General Mitchell Intl Milwaukee WI 3,114,864
50 Bradley Intl Hartford/Windsor Locks CT 3,098,556
51 Ontario Intl Ontario CA 3,089,025
52 Port Columbus Intl Columbus OH 3,050,585
53 Palm Beach Intl West Palm Beach FL 3,011,968
54 Albuquerque Intl Sunport Albuquerque NM 2,945,468
55 Southwest Florida Intl Fort Myers FL 2,906,367
56 Dallas Love Field Dallas TX 2,797,303
57 Kahului Kahului HI 2,656,254
58 Theodore Francis Green State Warwick RI 2,553,584
59 Jacksonville Intl Jacksonville FL 2,415,747
60 Bob Hope Burbank CA 2,352,465
61 Ted Stevens Anchorage Intl Anchorage AK 2,246,683
62 Reno/Tahoe Intl Reno NV 2,242,299
63 Buffalo Niagara Intl Buffalo NY 2,039,475
64 Eppley Airfield Omaha NE 1,783,714
65 Manchester Manchester NH 1,776,347
66 Norfolk Intl Norfolk VA 1,722,999
67 Tucson Intl Tucson AZ 1,699,762
68 Louisville Intl - Standiford Field Louisville KY 1,656,609
69 Will Rogers World Oklahoma City OK 1,615,264
70 El Paso Intl El Paso TX 1,409,164
71 Long Beach /Daugherty Field/ Long Beach CA 1,409,039
72 Albany Intl Albany NY 1,405,611
73 Birmingham Intl Birmingham AL 1,376,152
74 Spokane Intl Spokane WA 1,375,698
75 Tulsa Intl Tulsa OK 1,363,682
76 Boise Air Terminal/Gowen Field Boise ID 1,357,984
77 James M Cox Dayton Intl Dayton OH 1,306,740
78 Piedmont Triad Intl Greensboro NC 1,291,949
79 Greater Rochester Intl Rochester NY 1,233,378
80 Lihue Lihue HI 1,228,675
81 Richmond Intl Highland Springs VA 1,194,270
82 Kona Intl at Keahole Kailua Kona HI 1,183,215
83 Guam Intl Agana GU 1,076,944
84 Adams Field Little Rock AR 1,063,920
85 City of Colorado Springs Municipal Colorado Springs CO 1,010,985
86 Gerald R Ford Intl Grand Rapids MI 986,923
87 Syracuse Hancock Intl Syracuse NY 954,229
88 Long Island MacArthur Islip NY 939,880
89 Des Moines Intl Des Moines IA 887,515
90 Savannah/Hilton Head Intl Savannah GA 829,821
91 Charleston AFB/Intl Charleston SC 809,052
92 Dane County Regional - Truax Field Madison WI 802,730
93 McGhee Tyson Maryville TN 692,271
94 Wichita Mid - Continent Wichita KS 691,191
95 Pensacola Regional Pensacola FL 689,268
96 Greenville - Spartanburg Intl Greer SC 675,498
97 Harrisburg Intl Harrisburg PA 650,340
98 Myrtle Beach Intl Myrtle Beach SC 650,106
99 Hilo Intl Hilo HI 630,498
100 Palm Springs Intl Palm Springs CA 627,231

Edited by SOCOM, 02 November 2005 - 09:01 AM.

[SOCOM]

Couple things caught my eye...

1- look at how high Manchester ranks, wtg ManchVegas.

2- I was surprised how low Richmond, VA ranks. I've been to the city many times (never been to the airport) and it felt like a big medium sized city. I was thinking DC and Norfolk take away a lot of traffic, but we are in the same situation up here with Albany, Providence, Boston, and the NY airports all within 125 miles.

Edited by SOCOM, 02 November 2005 - 08:59 AM.

[Recchia]

I was shocked to see how high alot of the northeast medium/small cities ranked, considering there are so many airports in such a small area. Albany, Manchester, Bradley, Providence, they all seemed a lot higher than I would expect. Then yet I know of quite a few people who hate Logan and won't fly domestically out of there at all.

How far do Manchester and Bradley fly? I know flights from Providence usually don't go farther west than Phoenix and Albany "international" flights are pretty limited.

[HartfordTycoon]

Recchia, on Nov 2 2005, 09:19 PM, said:

I was shocked to see how high alot of the northeast medium/small cities ranked, considering there are so many airports in such a small area. Albany, Manchester, Bradley, Providence, they all seemed a lot higher than I would expect. Then yet I know of quite a few people who hate Logan and won't fly domestically out of there at all.

How far do Manchester and Bradley fly? I know flights from Providence usually don't go farther west than Phoenix and Albany "international" flights are pretty limited.

Hartford does have non-stop to L.A. and Montreal and Toronto are the only int'l destinations I know of.

[uconn99]

Currently Delta flys to Los Angeles and Salt Lake City, while US Airways flys to Phoenix. Those are the longest non stop flights out of Hartford right now. Before 9/11 there were flights to San Francisco and Denver that never got reinstated after the economic fallout.

Back in the early 90's there was talk of KLM and Air Jamaica coming into BDL, but things never made it off the drawing board. Problem BDL has is the proximity to Logan and JFK/EWR. However as BDL's passenger numbers continue to rise and the greater need for international travel occurs, I could see BDL getting at least one flight to a major European hub.

[Frankie811]

2004 Data







http://www.faa.gov/arp/planning/stats/2004...y_boardings.pdf

[Recchia]

Frankie811, on Nov 3 2005, 07:12 AM, said:

2004 Data
http://www.faa.gov/arp/planning/stats/2004...y_boardings.pdf

Interesting. Manchester is growing faster than TF Green. I wonder if it will eclipse it in the next few years as the main alternative to Logan.

[Cotuit]

Recchia, on Nov 3 2005, 09:36 AM, said:

Interesting. Manchester is growing faster than TF Green. I wonder if it will eclipse it in the next few years as the main alternative to Logan.

Both need rail to Boston.

[CtownMikey]

Is manchester looking to expand.. or do they have a bunch of nimby's slowing that down too?

Edited by CtownMikey, 03 November 2005 - 10:51 AM.

[Cotuit]

CtownMikey, on Nov 3 2005, 11:46 AM, said:

Is manchester looking to expand.. or do they have a bunch of nimby's slowing that down too?

There's a thread about Manchester Airport in the NNE section. They have been expanding, and they are planning on rail to Boston, though the state is rather recalcitrant about funding rail.

[MikeR]

Cotuit, on Nov 3 2005, 11:53 AM, said:

There's a thread about Manchester Airport in the NNE section. They have been expanding, and they are planning on rail to Boston, though the state is rather recalcitrant about funding rail.

I thnk the reason Manchester is expanding faster is that their airport has a longer takeoff runway than Green's. Longer runways are crucial to an airport striving to expand; adding more destinations mean longer flights; longer flights mean requiring planes to carry more fuel, which increases the plane's weight on takeoff so a longer runway is needed. Bruce Sundlun has been championing the need to increase T.F. Green's runways for years now.
Of course, adding more destinations from an airport means more planes taking off, which means more airport noise. Warwick residents know this all too well!

[mr2448]

MikeR, on Nov 4 2005, 05:12 AM, said:

I thnk the reason Manchester is expanding faster is that their airport has a longer takeoff runway than Green's. Longer runways are crucial to an airport striving to expand; adding more destinations mean longer flights; longer flights mean requiring planes to carry more fuel, which increases the plane's weight on takeoff so a longer runway is needed. Bruce Sundlun has been championing the need to increase T.F. Green's runways for years now.
Of course, adding more destinations from an airport means more planes taking off, which means more airport noise. Warwick residents know this all too well!

Their growth has not been affected by the length of the newly rebuilt and extended runway. Their longest flight is to LAS, one flight per day. PVD has service to PHX and will start new n/s service to LAS Nov 12th.

MHT's growth is based on the same reason PVD has grown. They are capturing pax that should have used their airport all these years instead of driving to BOS. Now that increased service has been provided to both airports, pax have chosen to stay closer to home. Until Southwest came in, airlines made a deliberate attempt to get northern New Englanders and Rhode Islanders to fly out of BOS. BDL never had that problem. BDL is far enough away from both BOS and NYC airports to have had more domestic service than PVD or MHT.

Scheduled international service will probably never go to any other New England airport other than BOS. BDL and PVD have always had chartered service to the Carribean and Mexico. About 10 years ago Leisure Air did chartered PVD-Bermuda service. Sata does n/s PVD-Azore service six months a year.


Mark

[beerbeer]

Bradley would already have European flights if it wasn't managed by the DOT. They are the keystone cops of avaition admisitration. If the airport gets out of DOT claws and into the hands of professionals, overseas flights will happen in a year. They may still happen will the DOT but they will screw it up.

[Frankie811]

beerbeer, on Nov 6 2005, 08:25 AM, said:

Bradley would already have European flights if it wasn't managed by the DOT. They are the keystone cops of avaition admisitration. If the airport gets out of DOT claws and into the hands of professionals, overseas flights will happen in a year. They may still happen will the DOT but they will screw it up.

But is there a market for international lights from BDL to the rest of the world? With Logan & NY airports nearby, where is the demand? Bradley dosen't offer direct international flights to any city other than Toronto and Montreal. As far as TF Green is concerned, the only interntional demand can come from Portugual and the Carribean.

Edited by Frankie811, 06 November 2005 - 01:49 PM.

[beerbeer]

Any moron could put together a Bradley/ or Amstedam flight. The DOT is just waiting on a kickback. It's disgusting.

[TaylorG4444]

Frankie811, on Nov 6 2005, 02:47 PM, said:

But is there a market for international lights from BDL to the rest of the world? With Logan & NY airports nearby, where is the demand? Bradley dosen't offer direct international flights to any city other than Toronto and Montreal. As far as TF Green is concerned, the only interntional demand can come from Portugual and the Carribean.

There is definitely a demand for International service for the Hartford/Springfield corridor. A few years back a businessman from the area did extensive research and found that there was enough demand for a daily trip to London aboard a 757. He was going to start an airline, which would have had flights going to London Stansted, but he never established the capital needed to get the airline off the ground. There's plenty of International demand, but like beerbeer said, the DOT doesn't give two craps either way....unless they were to suddenly get an offer that would pay them substancially....they basically are the airport nazis in CT.

[Germaine]

uconn99, on Nov 3 2005, 02:10 AM, said:

Problem BDL has is the proximity to Logan and JFK/EWR. However as BDL's passenger numbers continue to rise and the greater need for international travel occurs, I could see BDL getting at least one flight to a major European hub.

See, this is exactly the reason why there should be international (European) flights from Bradley. Think of the number of people who live closer to Bradley (in terms of travel time)! It's easier to drive from Worcester, Springfield, New Haven, Fairfield County, etc. than Boston or New York. Yes?

[Germaine]

beerbeer, on Nov 6 2005, 03:45 PM, said:

Any moron could put together a Bradley/ or Amstedam flight. The DOT is just waiting on a kickback. It's disgusting.

Nothing truer has ever been spoken! It's got to DOT b/c it makes no sense. See post above...

[mr2448]

Germaine, on Nov 6 2005, 06:03 PM, said:

Nothing truer has ever been spoken! It's got to DOT b/c it makes no sense. See post above...

Ct. DOT has little to do with it. There are international charters fom BDL. Scheduled international service, not including Canada, needs to be approved by both countries. New gateway cities are hard to come by. That is why the Providence-Bermuda service was discontinued. It was scheduled service, but Bermuda wanted to limit the number of U.S. gateway cities. Providence was thus discontinued in favor of the larger airports. A few years back Delta had a Bradley-JFK-Charles De Gaulle(Paris) flight. It lasted 5 months and only averaged 45 pax per flight on a 747. A DC-10 use to go BDL-BOS-LAX-Tokyo years ago on a daily basis. DL also did BDL-BOS-Bermuda for a number of years with a L1011.

The Hartford metro and Providence metro could both handle n/s European scheduled service, but unless there is an upstart airline, non of the majors will water down their existing service in the major markets. One stop scheduled service is likely the only type of service we will receive for a while.

Mark

[HartfordTycoon]

mr2448, on Nov 6 2005, 10:31 PM, said:

Ct. DOT has little to do with it. There are international charters fom BDL. Scheduled international service, not including Canada, needs to be approved by both countries. New gateway cities are hard to come by. That is why the Providence-Bermuda service was discontinued. It was scheduled service, but Bermuda wanted to limit the number of U.S. gateway cities. Providence was thus discontinued in favor of the larger airports. A few years back Delta had a Bradley-JFK-Charles De Gaulle(Paris) flight. It lasted 5 months and only averaged 45 pax per flight on a 747. A DC-10 use to go BDL-BOS-LAX-Tokyo years ago on a daily basis. DL also did BDL-BOS-Bermuda for a number of years with a L1011.

The Hartford metro and Providence metro could both handle n/s European scheduled service, but unless there is an upstart airline, non of the majors will water down their existing service in the major markets. One stop scheduled service is likely the only type of service we will receive for a while.

Mark

It actually may be in the works in 2006 in Hartford. Our airport is experiencing tremendous growth and is definately growing faster than the vast majority of US Airports. Here's and article from the current Hartford Business Journal outlining the prospects for a couple of true international flights.

International routes on flight plan


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By Diane Weaver Dunne
ddunne@hbjournal.com
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State officials are close to inking a deal that would bring true international passenger service to Bradley International Airport beginning in 2006.

Currently, international service at Bradley is primarily limited to private charters, freight or cargo service, Canada, Aruba, Bermuda and some Caribbean islands.

That will change soon if transportation officials have their way.


HBJ Frontpage
Bradley Story

Edited by HartfordTycoon, 06 November 2005 - 09:46 PM.