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#21 User is offline   AvianKeahi 

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Posted 01 June 2005 - 12:19 PM

okinawatyphoon, on May 28 2005, 05:06 AM, said:

Wow....that tower is just AMAZING! When is the groundbreaking going to be?



It's expected to break ground in August or early September, but I'm not positive about that. The web site for information and pre-sales should be up and running in a week or two.

The design symbolizes how the building sits between the conservative, corporate office towers to the north (represented by the stone facade) and the cocktail-party atmosphere of the residential towers to the south (represented by the glass and the open-air balconies). The dividing Arc is supposed to represent the "vibe" of Nicollet Mall and the urbane streetlife below.
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#22 User is offline   getti55403 

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 08:11 PM

MathNerd05, on Dec 7 2004, 11:17 PM, said:

It seems Minneapolis is up and coming. Fantastic!


Please explain to me why it so "Fantastic!" that Minneapolis is get all this stacked housing.
I live on the edge of downtown in a small area called Lorning Hill with 2 high-rise and mansions, last year devlopers came to our neighborhood and told us what would be good for us, one devloper start to work with the neighborhood in my words it was just for "show" and the other one blew us off. It is "Fantastic" ONLY if the devlopers is willing to work with the neighborhood. All this housing is not good for Minneapolis, safty and traffic is going to increase and the environment will be the big loser. Thank God that our councilor was able to get a moratorium for no building on the hill for 1 year.
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#23 User is offline   sushisimo 

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Posted 17 June 2005 - 11:20 AM

getti55403, on Jun 16 2005, 08:11 PM, said:

Please explain to me why it so "Fantastic!" that Minneapolis is get all this stacked housing.
I live on the edge of downtown in a small area called Lorning Hill with 2 high-rise and mansions, last year devlopers came to our neighborhood and told us what would be good for us, one devloper start to work with the neighborhood in my words it was just for "show" and the other one blew us off. It is "Fantastic" ONLY if the devlopers is willing to work with the neighborhood. All this housing is not good for Minneapolis, safty and traffic is going to increase and the environment will be the big loser. Thank God that our councilor was able to get a moratorium for no building on the hill for 1 year.

I lived on Oak Grove Street for 4 years, and I do tend to feel that Loring Hill works best with a more "preservationist" approach.

However, I do feel the rest of the condo projects really are "Fantastic!". I think its actually a plus for the environment in that you'll have a higher concentration of people in one place, presumably not driving as much, if you consider that many people already work downtown and can walk. And, once grocery stores and other amenities spring up to support the new population, cars will be needed even less. I'm not convinced about your safety claim either. These are homes being built, not dance clubs drawing rowdy drunkards into town. And at $400k a pop for a condo, I'm guessing the new people moving into downtown aren't going to be unemployed hooligans causing trouble. And finally, more residents means more taxes coming into the city coffers.

Many Minneapolitans seem weird to me, moreso than residents of other large cities. People here want the image of being cosmopolitan and forward thinking, but yet totally reject any change.
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 11:21 AM

Yeah all this new housing is horrible for Minneapolis. It should all go to the suburbs. Then you would really have to be concerned about the environment. Face it, people want to live in or near downtown just as you do so, stop being a hypocrite.
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 12:11 PM

sushisimo, on Jun 17 2005, 11:20 AM, said:

Many Minneapolitans seem weird to me, moreso than residents of other large cities. People here want the image of being cosmopolitan and forward thinking, but yet totally reject any change.


Are you not from Minneapolis?
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Posted 17 June 2005 - 02:19 PM

NorthStar, on Jun 17 2005, 12:11 PM, said:

Are you not from Minneapolis?

I've been here for 10 years, so I'll say "yes". I grew up on the Iron Range, which is so NOT a hot spot to live. Talk about depressing.
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Posted 22 June 2005 - 12:46 PM

I think the problem with the developments downtown Minneapolis are twofold

1. They are building the projects too tall on the fringes, while ignoring parking lots and other land in the core which is more suitable for tall buildings (of couse this land is more $$).

2. The developers ignore the history of an area and are not alwas honest. They sell the neighbors and then the plan morphs from 20 stories to 25 to 40. The promised retail dissappears and design tweaking sometimes creates an entirely different project.

As for the person that said "saftey and traffic is going to increase and the environment will be the big loser"...that is plain crazy. People who live downtown own fewer cars and walk more than those that live in the burbs. Environmentally a highly dense urban area is preferrable to suburban sprawl. And, many of the new buildings are using green roofs and other environmental designs. Additionally, when you increase the number of residents living downtown, you will have a more stable population which will increase safety.

When the other person said people in Minneapolis are "Weird" I sorta agree (and i was born here). They want to be a cool, fun, livable city with great parks and transportation, but they don't want any of the change to occur near them.

Reminds me of a meeting I went to when the Boulevard theater was closing in SW minneapolis-- the neighbors were angry at the business owners (who were lossing money) for closing their treasured neighborhood Icon. A check of history shows that just 50 years earlier the same neighborhood fought the development of the theater expressing parking concerns etc. In minneapolis change is often seen as bad --even when it is good.
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Posted 30 June 2005 - 10:34 PM

I was browsing Emporis, and found this: Nicollet Place
Could someone please give me more info on this?
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Posted 01 July 2005 - 12:55 AM

All I know is that it's on hold. The location is perfect being it would be located at 5th and Nicollet; right next to the light rail. I would like to see a mixed-use tower rise there. Maybe condos and a hotel or condos and office. Anyway, here are a couple renderings:

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Posted 01 July 2005 - 10:10 AM

^^ Oh yeah, wasn't it called "Powers Block" or something? I sure hope it gets built though. I think I like the second rendering better too.
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Posted 07 July 2005 - 11:10 AM

I like the Powers Block concepts. I walk past that location to and from work everyday and I feel its a prime location. Currently, it's a dodgy block of Nicollet, but I think its in transition, depending on what retail goes into the Wallgreens and Indian bazaar stores, which are gone/going. And then there's the ultra cool public library a block up from that, with the proposed Eclipse complex neighboring it. Looks like the Nicollet/Hennepin area leading into the Gateway riverfront will finally start looking swanky, like it should!
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 09:00 AM

From today's Star Tribune an article about Heritage Development which unveiled a new rendering for the 1010 Park development in Elliot Park and unveiled the first glimpse of "The Wave" a luxury project on the riverfront near the Carlyle (former Fuji-Ya restaurant)...

http://www.startribu...69/5507491.html

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The Wave
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You can see the Carlyle in the right-rear.
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Posted 15 July 2005 - 10:44 AM

I like the Wave development.
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 10:57 AM

Wow, 1010 park looks amazing! Is it already under construction or when will it start?
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Posted 22 July 2005 - 11:10 AM

okinawatyphoon, on Jul 18 2005, 11:57 AM, said:

Wow, 1010 park looks amazing! Is it already under construction or when will it start?


1010 has not gotten city approval yet. I would guess the sales office won't open until at least Spring 2006 and then figure another 9-12 months before they reach 50% sold --which is generally when construction start. Although, I hear they will build in 3 or 4 phases so maybe they will only sell one building at a time.

Personally, I think a public interior courtyard between the buildings is a mistake. There are some crime/drug dealing issues with other properties on that block (which will remain) and in the neighborhood in general. I think it would be better to create more ped. traffic on the street.
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Posted 29 July 2005 - 11:56 AM

Here's the status of several projects throughout Minneapolis. I'm certain there's more development going on, but I don't have the time to look into everything. Continue to add information about projects as you find them.

Under Construction
Name - - Buildings - - Stories - - Units
-The Carlyle - - 1 - - 39 - - 255
-Grant Park - - 1 - - 27 - - 318
*Tower is completed, but town homes are still under construction.
-The Falls & the Pinnacle - - 2 - - 19 & 28 - - 257 (conversion)
-RiverWest - - 1 - - 18 - - 410 (conversion)
-1016 Marquette - - 1 - - 10 - - 8
-The Lofts at IMS - - 1 - - 10 - - 97
-720 Lofts - - 1 - - 8 - - 99
-Bookman Stacks - - 1 - - 8 - - 45
-The Sexton - - 2 - - 7 - - 141
-The Groveland - - 1 - - 7 - - 132
-5th Avenue Lofts - - 1 - - 4 & 7 - - 138

Construction Starts Soon
Name - - Buildings - - Stories - - Units
-The Nicollet - - 1 - - 54 - - 341
-Skyscape - - 1 - - 27 - - 252
-Ivy Hotel & Residence - - 3 - - 24 - - 88
-Fifth Avenue Gateway - - 1 - - 20 - - 138
-Phoenix on the River - - 1 - - 5 & 17 - - 70
-Cobalt - - 1 - - 10 - - 96 - - will include a new, Lunds grocery store
-Flour Sack Flats Phase 1 - - 1 - - 6 - - 45
-Flour Sack Flats - - 1 - - 5 - - 58
-Mill Trace Condominiums - - 1 - - 4 - - 50

Has City Approvals
Name - - Buildings - - Stories - - Units
-Pillsbury ‘A’ Mill - - 12 - - 3 to 27 - - 1095
-The Eclipse - - 2 - - 26 & 32 - - 508
-730 Lofts - - 1 - - 10 - - 126
-Whitney Hotel Condos - - 1 - - 7 - - 48

Proposed
Name - - Buildings - - Stories - - Units
-Allina/Eitel site - - 2 - - 39 - - 250 to 300
-1010 Park Avenue - - 4 - - 8 to 31 - - 380 to 400
-1730 Clifton Place - - 1 - - 3 to 16 - - 120
-Herschel Condos - - 1 - - 6 - - 47
-International Harvester Lofts - - 1 - - 6 - - 51
-Gardner Condos - - 2 - - 7 - - 65 to 70
-Washington Live-Work - - 1 - - 5 - - 18
-Parcel F - - 3 - - 5 to 8 - - 200
-6th Street & 1st Avenue - - 1 - - 4 to 12 - - 160 to 170
-Park Avenue East Lofts - - 1 - - 4 to 5 - - 28
-The Nine - - 1 - - 4 to 5 - - 9
-Parcel E - - 1 - - 4 - - 124
-The Portland - - 1 - - 4 - - 22
-The Wave - - 1 - - 3 to 5 - - 38

Cultural Developments
-Minneapolis Central Library
-The New Guthrie Theater
-Minneapolis Institute of the Arts Expansion
-Children's Theatre Expansion
-MacPhail Center for Music
-American Swedish Institute
-Shubert Theatre Restoration

Other Minneapolis Developments
-Midtown Exchange
x The development includes:
x 360 apartments, condos and townhomes
x the headquarters of Allina Hospitals and Clinics
x a Hennepin County service center;
x a new Sheraton hotel
x the Midtown Global Market, which will be the city's largest public market
-Lagoon and Fremont - - 1 - - 10 - - 100 - - 50,000sq. ft. office space - - Uptown
-Eat Street Flats - - 1 - - 4 - - 54
-Madison Lofts
-The Edge - - 1 - - 5 - - 42
-600 SE Main St. - - 1 - - 40 to 45 units
-Minnehaha Place Condominiums - - 1 - - 5 - - 90 - - TOD
-Greenleaf Lofts - - 1 - - 5 - - 27 - - TOD
-Arts Quarter Lofts - - 1 - - 4 - - 29
-Steel Flats - - 1 - - 3 - - 32

-Chambers Hotel
x A boutique hotel project at and around the site of the old Fairmont Hotel in downtown Minneapolis. New York-based Rockwell Group to be lead designer for the revised project. Rockwell designed the original Chambers hotel in New York City, along with projects including the Kodak Theater in Hollywood and the W New York hotel. Minneapolis-based Shea Inc. will work with Rockwell on the hotel complex.

Other Proposed Developments
-Twinsville - - Downtown
x either a $400 million, 1,000-condo development alongside a $478 million Twins stadium, or a mainly residential project with 3,000 condos and no stadium that would be worth $800 million.

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Posted 31 July 2005 - 07:07 PM

Twin Cities, on Apr 4 2005, 04:02 PM, said:

The 21 Century has a new name and look.

The project is now the Eclipse and the towers will be 26 and 32 stories.  Construction should start this summer.

Here's the new rendering:
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moon shield you are right. minneapolis is going to look great in the next couple os years

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 03:17 PM

Just thought you'd all want to know there is a good amount of Twin Cities conversation (especially vs Providence/Boston) in the Providence section, mostly initiated by me. Insight into why the Cities' downtown efforts have been so active and successful would be particularly welcome.

http://www.urbanplan...&t=14535&st=30#

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 07:49 PM

There's also a nice Minneapolis vs. Boston convo here. Go support Minneapolis!! :D
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 06:58 AM

I was trying out Google Earth and came across Minneapolis. Enjoy these sample pics courtesy of Google Earth.

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