Spatula

I feel like if Northgate redeveloped, 'Uptown' might be a better name since it's in North Durham, but whatever.

I think of Glenwood South as a neighborhood inside Raleigh's downtown, whereas SouthEnd is an urban 'spoke' adjacent to Charlotte's downtown, but not in it. Hillsborough street would be a closer analog to SouthEnd, although no comparison between the cities is ever apples to apples.

I'll be impressed and excited when I see the design, but at least something is going in that block finally, and kudos to them for picking the tallest of the three options.

I would still find the University Tower ugly even if it were downtown, for what it's worth.

It'll never happen but I'd like to see something tall in that spot.

http://goodnightraleigh.com/2010/07/a-forgotten-treasure-the-raleigh-water-garden/ This may be the Raleigh Water Garden that you are thinking of. That sign at the front was a landmark for many years on Glenwood. It was demolished for new developments several years ago. Quite a loss, I think. Tiny nooks and crannies like this are what give a city character.

http://fox13now.com/2017/03/16/videos-show-massive-fire-in-downtown-raleigh/ Some videos of the fire at its peak. Flames topped the height of the 15 floor Quorum Center nearby. LIVE FEED: http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/raleigh-fire-live-stream-downtown-watch-news-coverage-update-death-toll-cause/ Looks like it's calming down, and they've wrangled it under control now. It spread to some neighboring structures though.

Maybe they can merge our threads? We must've been just a few seconds apart.

If it bans them I'm cool with it. I've always considered it a matter of time until one of them went off. While it is possible to construct relatively safe wood buildings (even wood skyscrapers), the ones going up are nothing like that.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article139056083.html

Despite being yet another 20 floor building with similar architectural themes to 301, I quite like this one. The dimensions are much better than 301 Hillsborough and it'll block the view of the Clarion from the west, which I consider a major bonus.

I can say that I don't shop much. If we got an IKEA... they would get my money on opening day.

If that hotel section were on top of the office, it would look much better. But no, let's make everything 20 floors! That's the sacred height!

I will say, kudos to Raleigh for voting to pay its civic employees a wage you can actually survive on. They don't get everything wrong. Hopefully if HB2 gets repealed they can push to raise wages for everyone in the city. Raleigh has always been held back by being in North Carolina, to some extent.

A real gut-punch would be if the N&O site became all 20-story buildings as a result of this. Prepare yourself emotionally for that very real possibility.