East Side Urbanite

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  1. East Side Urbanite

    Nashville, as MLB Expansion Market

    As Ron noted, there is no city with under 2.5 million in MSA population that has four of the big five, NFL,NHL, NBA, MLB, and MLS . We don't think Nashville will be the first. And on that note, I don't think we will ever see any U.S. city with an MSA pop under 2.5 million have four of the big five. The numbers simply don't work. As to Titanhog's question: I do feel we would have a better chance at MLB were the MLS thing to fizzle. BUT, soccer is an international sport that we can parlay into luring international businesses and tourists. Let's get MLS now. Maybe when we have 3 million we can land baseball.
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    Project Thread/New Construction/Photo du jour/Const. CAMs

    Great job by Ron and Mark. Ron already has Canopy by Hilton (for Yazoo site) on the map.
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    CBD/SoBro/RutledgeHill/Rolling Mill Hill Projects

    I think most of us agree that Lower Broadway is fast losing its funkiness, quirkiness, grittiness and distinctness. And it's sad. These "themed entertainment venues," ... gruesome. WW
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    Nashville Bits and Pieces

    I like this organization, MH. Also ... very, very solid numbers, if not strong. Looks good. WW
  5. Another strong session. Always good to see everybody. WW
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    CBD/SoBro/RutledgeHill/Rolling Mill Hill Projects

    For Charlotteans, not being on the Amazone HQ2 list and failing to get an MLS franchise is both baffling and frustrating. Similarly, for some Nashvillians — and given how this city is growing and changing — it is both baffling and frustrating that we voted down major mass transit and that we can't get a skyscraper of 700 feet or taller. It works both ways. Some folks in Charlotte are envious of Nashville and vice versa.
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    CBD/SoBro/RutledgeHill/Rolling Mill Hill Projects

    NashOb, Charlotte has the "banking industry" brand but 1. that is not very exciting and 2. most folks are unaware of it. Charlotte also is considered by some the "NASCAR capital." But to answer your question, Charlotte is not the type city that has a distinctive identity or brand. However, other mid-sized U.S. cities do have brands and are recognized worldwide (at least to some extent). Nashville is not the only such city. They are: Vegas: Night life, shows and gambling NOLA: French quarter, Mardi Gras, jazz, trolleys Charleston: historic architecture and the food and beverage scene is world class Orlando: Disney World (known by millions worldwide) Other mid-sized cities with internationally lesser-known brands: Austin: live music Memphis: rock and roll, blues Portland: beer and coffee Savannah (smallish city, admittedly): historic architecture The large cities have "brands" too: LA: music, film, fashion, TV, the beach culture, retail New York: music, film, fashion, TV, architecture, media ... you name it Chicago: Pizza, the Cubs, architecture, blues Detroit: various forms of African-American music, auto industry Miami: Latin music, dancing, fashion San Francisco: bridges, water, cable cars, jazz Boston: universities (Harvard, MIT, Boston College, Boston U., etc.), the Red Sox D.C.: museums, government
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    CBD/SoBro/RutledgeHill/Rolling Mill Hill Projects

    I'm willing to believe you, Cadi. And tell your friends in Charlotte to visit us and offer their impressions. All are welcomed in our city. WW
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    CBD/SoBro/RutledgeHill/Rolling Mill Hill Projects

    Ron and I have discussed this many times. Here are some major "urban placemaking elements" Charlotte has (in part because it simply is a more populated city than Nashville) that Nashville does not: * major mass transit * a major airport (though BNA is improving in a strong manner) * two"tall boys" (buildings 700 feet tall or taller) to our zero * a significant number of buildings 400 feet tall or taller and that are located within close proximity of each other. That "tall building density" yields an impressive skyline. Relatedly, Charlotte's eastern time zone location lures lots of educated young people from the Northeast, which — combined with the skyscrapers — gives its Uptown (compared to our CBD) a much more "big city, urbane feel," with lots of folks in business attire hustling and bustling about as the towers loom and the Lynx train moves along. It's impressive, to be fair. On a positive note, these are things Nashville can get in time. In contrast, we have some characteristics that Charlotte does not have (and many of which it can't ever get): * a river (with some interesting bridges) * a cool and exciting entertainment brand and personality/character (everything from Jack White/Third Man Records to the honky-tonks to hot chicken to all the oddball people living here) * an impressive (for our size) mix of colleges and universities * an impressive (for our size) mix of "urban villages" (Germantown, Five Points, Hillsboro Village, 12South, WeHo, The Nations, etc.) * a state capitol * a very solid (if not strong) collection of civic buildings and cultural offerings (the zoo, Lane Motor Museum, Hall of Fame, Parthenon, Schermerhorn Symphony Center, etc.) But again, I go back to my argument: We need to do everything we can to encourage folks from other cities (and particularly those from peer cities) to post on this board. If they are credible posters, it can be instructive and helpful. I want to know what they think of us. That's why I feel we must give folks like Cadi the benefit of the doubt (he/she may have been trolling but I want to be fair). We also need to, if we are critical of such folks, also acknowledge their cities' positive elements. Otherwise, we come across as petty and defensive. We must rise above the fray. WW
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    CBD/SoBro/RutledgeHill/Rolling Mill Hill Projects

    Agree 100 percent. WW
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    CBD/SoBro/RutledgeHill/Rolling Mill Hill Projects

    I've heard lots of folks lament the possible loss of one of the few art deco buildings of five stories or taller we have remaining.
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    CBD/SoBro/RutledgeHill/Rolling Mill Hill Projects

    A quality post. Agree. WW
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    CBD/SoBro/RutledgeHill/Rolling Mill Hill Projects

    The question is not so much if they have heard of Nashville. Rather, its how "significant" this city is based on the impressions of those in other countries AND compared to other U.S. cities. Some of the posters on the board suggest Nashville would be, in the eyes of foreigners, on the same level as the following (maybe I have misinterpreted their view and, if so, my apologies): New York City, Boston, D.C., Miami, Philly, Chicago, Vegas, San Francisco and L.A. And there are other U.S. cities (think Honolulu, New Orleans and Orlando) that have a more robust international tourism scene (from little I have read) than Nashville. Yes, we are recognized and liked by many folks across the planet. I like that. It's good. But to write, JMTunafish, that we enjoy "iconic stature" simply seems overstated. If Nashville, in the eyes of folks in the cities you have lived in, is "iconic," then what are the U.S. cities like New York and San Francisco (and that I list): "iconic times 100"? It just seems some of us are over-stating things about Nashville and that might not be such a good thing.
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    CBD/SoBro/RutledgeHill/Rolling Mill Hill Projects

    Agree on what would help. Time will tell.