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  1. Per the 2020 census: 25 U.S. cities with MSA populations of 1 million or more that grew (from 2010 to 2020) at least 10 percent. As we know, 10 percent growth over the 10-year census span is about 1 percent per year, 20 percent growth is about 2 percent per year and 30 percent growth is about 3 percent per year (which is explosive). 30 percent or more 1. Austin 20 percent to 29.9 percent 2. Orlando 3. Raleigh 4. Nashville 5. Houston 10 percent to 19.9 percent 6. Dallas 7. San Antonio 8. Jacksonville 9. Charlotte 10. Seattle 11. Denver 12. Las Vegas 13. Salt Lake City 14. Phoenix 15. Atlanta 16. Tampa-St. Pete 17. Oklahoma City 18. Washington D.C. 19. Portland 20. Columbus 21. Indianapolis 22. Sacramento 23. Richmond 24. Miami 25. Minneapolis
  2. Outstanding job, Mark! Exciting to see on paper. And I agree with Smeags regarding density. We are finally seeing it unfold (there is a long way to go, obviously) and it is very exciting. I don't foresee Nashville (at least any time soon) having lots of towers of 600 feet and taller. But we will get some and they will punctuate (better than 400-footers) our future density.
  3. Tremendous effort, Gman430. You are welcome in our city anytime!
  4. Focusing specifically on how these upgrades will affect the public realm (whether the interior of the stadium offers bleacher seating or chair-back seating is irrelevant to the civic manmade environment) ... ... LOTS of potential for positives. * I see a roundabout might be planned for the point at which Vanderbilt Place, Natchez Trace and Jess Neely Drive converge. That would be tremendous. * Relatedly, the Frist Family Gate entrance at that point seems likely to be updated (based on the aerial image). It currently offers two utility poles. Eliminating those alone would be huge. * The north end zone and south end zone additions will look very cool from Natchez Trace and Jess Neely Drive, respectively. * Lastly, and hugely cool, streetscape definition for the intersection of Natchez Trace and Jess Neely Drive will be created with prominent new structures. With these updates, the VU football program will have its own dedicated indoor practice facility. And the basketball practice facility looks outstanding. As some of you know, my family's history with Vanderbilt University dates to the 1920s, when my great, great aunt, the venerable Lucille Binns, was one of the first women to attend the university. I've been a fan of Commodore sports since the late 1960s and have attended many games (football, basketball and baseball) over the years. This $300 million project is a very positive step in many ways.
  5. Got it here DTR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Nashville Tourism is a major factor in that it results in hotel towers. Another factor is that there are some cities that draw wealthy folks looking to buy a condo in an urban tower but for what is not their only or even primary home. Yep. Nothing against Phoenix. But for a city with about 5 million people in its MSA, the skyline is very underwhelming. Interesting. I did not know.
  6. With Nashville getting more "skyscrapers," I thought I would post the following info. Emporis defines a skyscraper as a building of a minimum of 100 meters/328 feet tall. This Emporis list (and it seems updated) showcases the U.S. cities with the most skyscrapers and their world ranking. (For comparison, Emporis defines a "high-rise" as being between 35 meters/115 feet tall and 100 meters/328 feet tall.) The first number is the world ranking and the second number is the number of skycrapers for the city. (For context, Hong Kong with 1,943 skyscrapers is No. 1 — which is mind-blowing.) No. 2 in the world: New York City 845 skyscrapers No. 11 Chicago 336 No. 41 Miami 125 No. 46 Houston 108 No. 54 San Francisco 88 No. 58 Los Angeles 82 No. 59 Honolulu 79 No. 61 Seattle 75 No. 66 Atlanta 69 No. 71 Philadelphia 63 No. 78 Boston 55 No. 79 Las Vegas 54 No. 84 Dallas 51 So there is your "Lucky 13" U.S. cities, each with 50 or more skycrapers as defined by Emporis. Clearly, Las Vegas and Honolulu are in a vastly different league regarding the number of skyscrapers in relation to overall population. In fact, Honolulu is truly insane. It is No. 7 in the nation for buildings 328 feet tall or taller despite having the No. 54 MSA population. Throw in the more than 300 high-rises in Honolulu to go with its 79 skyscrapers and, per capita, the city might be tied with New York for America's most impressive city in terms of sheer number of tall buildings (again, per capita). Honolulu has about one building of 115 feet taller or taller for every 2,500 people. If my math is correct, New York also has about one building of 115 feet taller or taller for every 2,500 people. The least impressive cities for tall buildings per capita, from what I have determined, are (in no particular order) Phoenix, Tampa, Jacksonville, San Antonio, Raleigh, Orlando and Sacramento. Obviously, I'm not counting Washington, D.C., as it has a height restriction. And what about Miami with 55 more skyscrapers than Atlanta and 74 more than Dallas ... ? That is hard to fathom. Nashville might be ranked in the 18 to 22 range for number of skyscrapers and almost certainly is ranked in the 25 to 28 range. That is respectable given we are No. 36 in MSA population. For comparison: Nashville has 24 buildings of 100 meters or taller completed and seven under construction. Charlotte also has 24 buildings of 100 meters or taller completed and two under construction. Austin has 32 buildings of 100 meters or taller completed and 12 under construction.
  7. "Best urban core" is highly subjective and, as such, there is not "right or wrong." Many folks would argue Nashville will never have an urban core that is as "quirky, building dense, distinctive and pedestrian vibrant" as that of New Orleans. Charlotte will, almost assuredly, continue to be "better" than Nashville in terms of very tall (300 feet or taller) contemporary towers with eye-catching caps and night lighting. Richmond's urban core is "better" if you like historic architecture. Miami is on an ocean and offers breathtaking visual with the water and soaring towers. Now, IF you are using numbers (for example, the number of buildings 100 feet tall or taller), that's a way to "measure."
  8. Sorry to hear this, T-Hog. I appreciate you and all your positive contributions to this board.
  9. Agree. Those of us who live in/are fans of the cities you mention ... we are, essentially, "all in this effort" together. Strong drone footage of Austin. I had seen previously and just watched a bit more. Thanks for posting.
  10. atl2clt makes some outstanding points. I strongly enjoyed reading that overview. And I agree with skyybutter that Charlotte and Nashville are two almost radically different cities. As such, it makes for interesting contrasts and comparisons between the two. But, and as I noted, there is no correct or incorrect as to which city is "better." That is fully subjective. Smeags and I often talk about Nashville in relation to other Southeastern cities (notwithstanding Atlanta and Miami, of course, as those two are on a vastly different level than the other SE cities). He and I both know Nashville has its strengths — and its flaws. We obviously have our biases (we want Nashville to shine) but we do make every effort to offer credit and respect to other cities. Smeags has visited so many cities and he tells all the folks he meets in those cities how much he likes their cities. I respect him for that. My sister lived in Chapel Hill for eight years and I visited Raleigh three times during that span (though the last times was in 2002). I would strongly like to see Raleigh today. So many more urban buildings, restaurants/retail, etc., than when I was last there. Charlotte (I was last there about four years ago) is an outstanding city on so many levels. Because of the relative "geographic compactness" of Uptown, developers have been forced to "build tall" in the Queen City. The result is a hugely impressive level of vertical density. I would be if thrilled if Nashville offered simply one-third of such vertical density. With South End and Midtown changing rapidly, Charlotte continues to evolve in a positive manner. And you can't put a price on the Lynx. Having major mass transit ... I envy Charlotte in that respect. Nashville lacks a concentrated and imposing skyline seen in mid-sized cities such as Charlotte, Denver, Pittsburgh and Minneapolis. And, of course, we don't have major mass transit. But Nashville is hugely fortunate to have a collection of "built-in" advantages (over many cities) that, for years, we failed to capitalize upon but now seem to be doing just that: state capitol (which yields numerous civic/government buildings), a strong (for our population) roster of colleges and universities, a brand (music/entertainment/tourism), lots of cultural buildings and attractions, a massive chunk of urbanized street grid, and a river. Those are all characteristics that simply can't be "manufactured." Either a city has those characteristics (or some of them) or it doesn't and likely never will. As such, we Nashvillians need to be humble and appreciative and not be dismissive of those cities that don't offer those elements. Some of us do a good job of being humble. And some of us can be arrogant about it. I enjoy hearing what folks think about Nashville and welcome the criticism (if given politely and constructively). Charlotte is a wonderful city. Full credit.
  11. Various U.S. cities — Philly, Detroit, Cleveland, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Columbus, etc., had buildings taller than the L&C Tower at that time.
  12. I'm biased as my grandfather was an engineer with WLAC back in the day and he oversaw the team that made and installed the radio tower that still rises from the cap of the Life & Casualty Tower. Having said that, I feel the tower is a fantastic building (inside and out) for many reasons: Its entrance is perfectly angled at an intersection. This is distinctive and eye-catching. You simply don't see that much in buildings of any height in any city. Yes, that model exists but it's uncommon. Many towers of the "modernist era" (the mid-1950s to the late 1970s) — maybe even most — do not offer a well-defined base, "mid-section" and cap. The L&C Tower shines in this respect. The floorplates are only 6,800 square feet. And with the verticality of the fins and vertical windows, the building gives the illusion of being much taller than it is. It's like a missile (of sorts). The cap signage is brilliant. Old school. Elegant. Simply cool. I hear modernist jazz when I view. The building is the only in Nashville's history (as far as I know) that offered an observation room that required paid entrance. My brother and I visited a few times. Of course, back then (in the early 1980s and before the attraction ceased operations) there weren't many tall buildings to see from 400 feet on high in the L&C. Still, that is a very cool little element of the building's history. The exterior color scheme is attractive, much more so than the other modernist buildings Nashville got back then (Snodgrass, UBS Tower, Andrew Jackson and the Sheraton; I do, however, like the smoke-gray Service Source Tower, then called the Third National Bank Building and our first all-glass tower). • Edwin A. Keeble and his company designed the building. That alone makes it fairly special. He designed the building to be one of the nation's first emphasizing energy efficiency. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_A._Keeble • Perhaps more than anything, the L&C combines quirky, graceful, modern, timeless and "Nashville history" elements — and does so effectively. Not a lot of buildings could pull that off. My grade: A-minus to A.
  13. As a Nashvillian (and friend of Smeagolsfree, who posted in this thread), I would like to weigh in. I see Nashville and Charlotte offering two almost radically different urban fabric "models," of sorts, with their respective forms and functions showing significant contrast. First, Charlotte: The Charlotte urban manmade mass, overall, is very strong. I've visited the city three times (my sister lived in Chapel Hill for many years) and was highly impressed each visit. The most recent visit was about four years ago, and my friend and I walked through Uptown and took the Lynx into South End/Dilworth. Hugely eye-catching. The vertical density in Uptown is stellar (far better than that of Nashville). And having watched recently made drone videos, I see the towers now rising in South End/Dilworth (and that KJHburg references). Once Charlotte "fully expands" in that direction ... watch out. Having two true big-time skyscrapers (i.e., buildings of 750 feet or taller), lots of high-rises 400 feet tall and taller, and the Lynx ... Nashville simply can't boast such elements. The Charlotte skyline at night (with all the dramatic lighting and the skycrapers with "caps") is very cosmopolitan and big city. Midtown Charlotte is making strides and South End/Dilworth has long arrived (it's awesome). As to mixed-used districts located outside the core, I've been to NoDa and to the area where The Plaza and Central Avenue T-intersect. Two very cool districts, no doubt. I'm also a big fan of Charlotte's three sports stadiums being located in Uptown. Collectively, they are very attractive and interact nicely with the public realm. The intersection of Trade and Tryon is tremendously big time. Nothing even remotely like that in Nashville. Standing at the intersection and turning in a 360 manner ... simply put: wow. Now, Nashville: What Nashville lacks in a monster building and overall vertical density, it compensates both with 1. sheer number of buildings 100 feet tall and taller and 2. a massive (relatively speaking) geographic street grid that lends itself to urbanization. As Smeags noted, the tall buildings are seemingly located all over the city, extending three miles from the river downtown west through Midtown and to I-440 — while also "moving" more than a mile from north to south along the Cumberland River (thus creating a "T-esque" skyline). There are now four urban nodes with their own skylines: the CBD, the southeast quadrant of SoBro, The Gulch, and the epicenter of Midtown. Downtown has prominent hills Rutledge Hill and Capitol Hill (which create wonderful vistas), a river, and lots of civic/government and cultural buildings of note (including nine historic church buildings and the grand Schermerhorn Symphony Center). Nashville's Midtown has become a city into itself, anchored by Centennial Park and Vanderbilt University (with Belmont University nearby). The recently completed 300-foot Gothic-collegiate brick-and-stone tower located on the VU campus and towering over West End Avenue has instantly become an iconic building, likely ranking among the most beautiful tall buildings in the South. Outside downtown and Midtown, Nashville offers multiple vibrant mixed-use districts: Five Points, Germantown, Wedgewood-Houston, 12South, Hillsboro Village, Sylvan Park/Sylvan Heights and The Nations. To summarize ... urban Charlotte has a more modernist, cosmopolitan, "big city" feel with all the extremely tall skyscrapers, eye-catching night lighting, cool stadia and the Lynx. It is elegant and sexy, offering an almost "contemporary large Asian city feel." In contrast, urban Nashville is more funky, gritty, quirky and "urbanly expansive" (in terms of sheer acreage of urbanized fabric). It is distinctive and even slightly "edgy" and cool in spots. I often hear visitors (I live and work downtown) say that Nashville has "personality." As to which model is "better," there is no correct answer. Is is 100 percent subjective. Charlotte is a strong city with lots about which to be excited. Full props to the Queen City.
  14. And I forgot Kevin is an original and that Daniel (now in Columbus) and Cliff (no longer attends but lurks on the board) need to be given a shout-out. Lots of fine folks in our group.
  15. I've said for years that Ron is the 1A and Mark is the 1B of the Nashville chapter of urbanplanet.org. And Ron, out of a show of humility and respect, will often ask me to rank Mark 1A, as Mark now does more on UP than anybody else (which is impressive considering the major contributions of Ron and Bob). Mark has been with the group for about seven years now, and his impact has been monumental. When I recall the original days of the group when John (Doorman Poet), Ron, Bob, Stephen, Todd, the late (and legendary) Dave and I would gather (starting in early 2005) ... hard to believe the group has come this far and stayed together for 16 years. And how about a huge "thanks!" to T-Hog (Shay) for starting this thread. She is a star on this board. We all love ya, MH! WW
  16. Ron is correct on this info. He and I discussed the merits of using and my editor and I discussed too and decided to report. I talked to a very legitimate and connected source about this and the Post team decided to run the article. As to my thoughts regarding if I think it has much of a chance, I have to decline to note (trying to be the impartial journalist).
  17. Strong ones, too. A quality list. I need to visit Fayetteville, Shay. I hear it's a wonderful city. I like Little Rock, too. Very underrated city.
  18. I definitely can be defensive (and protective) about Memphis. But I'm also that way about other cities that I feel have taken some harsh (and sometimes cheap) shots from folks of all persuasions (Buffalo, Detroit and Cleveland come to mind) — on this board or not. It's the "sticking up for the little man" in me. I strongly feel that we Nashvillians should be humbled by what we are experiencing. But sometimes we lose perspective. Looking back, Rolly's post (as THog noted) did, indeed, come with context that I missed. That's my fault and take full blame. Had I recognized that context (and I should have), I likely would not have responded. I do admit my occasional "let's lighten up on Memphis" posts on this board can be a distraction. I also feel lots of posters on this board (and who attend the in-person meetings) have become a bit more open-minded toward Memphis over the years. And that is very gratifying. You offered some kind words and constructive criticism, ruraljuror. Much appreciated. ... ... but you forgot the Memphis Zoo, Brooks Art Museum, Stax, all the sidewalked and curbed streets (to be fair you indirectly noted that with the infrastructure element), Crosstown, Wiseacre beer, St. Jude's, Harbor Town, etc., etc. (sorry, I couldn't resist!) thx again
  19. Priest coming to Municipal Auditorium on Thursday, Oct. 21. Will be curious if Glenn Tipton is in the mix.
  20. As to the context ... that makes sense. I failed to take note of that as I was reading through the posts quickly. My fumble. I'll take that draw!!!! Are you sure you want to see Bill Williams in wrestling tights? I agree with all this. When did you move to Florida? I though you still lived in Raleigh (my sister attended N.C. State).
  21. I'm fine with anybody (including you, THog) offering constructive criticism of Memphis. Or even a playful jab if provoked from a pro-Memphis poster looking for a bit of "fun-loving trash talking." I have likely criticized Memphis more during my 58 years than just about anybody else. The city has its flaws (Just like nashville does). But Rolly (from what I can tell) simply shot this one out of left field with no context or provocation. As such, it seemed a bit uncalled for (if not downright dismissive of Memphis). Rolly seems to strongly like Nashville and it's great that he posts on our Nashville board. He (she?) makes lots of positive contributions to this board. And I assume he loves Raleigh like we do Nashville. So, hypothetically, what if I had posted (out of the blue) something snarky about how Raleigh woefully lacks high-rises, particularly for a city of its population? Rolly likely (and understandably) would have perceived my post as a bit of a nasty jab toward a city he loves. We need to be humbled that we live in Nashville, a city that is growing and changing in an exciting way. Respectful criticisms of other cities (including Memphis) is fine. Oddly put forth negative shots at other cities (even if not meant maliciously) ... I don't feel it helps the discourse on this board. I did not write (or even suggest) Rolly (or anybody on this board) refrain from discussing Memphis' problems. If done in a constructive and respectful manner, that's fine. Memphis is worthy of criticism in many respects. But the context and tone are important. The Memphis vs. Nashville thread you notes would be tremendously interesting and fun, IF ... everybody on this board was like me: i.e., willing to most compliment and criticize both cities in a reasonable manner. Sadly, that is not the case. This board and some of its posters are a bit unreasonably dismissive of Memphis and, at times and conversely, excessively homer-ish toward Nashville. It's one reason I don't post much.
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