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  1. If I ever compare Streets of Buckhead (I can't believe that the marketing people didn't realize it would be shortened to SOB!!!) to Atlantic Station, it will only be because of my concern about the totality of the project. The architecture may be different, but the fact remains that a large area of higt density real estate will be developed my a single entity at relatively the same time. The potential to see that urban Disneyland feeling that is so prevalant in AS is a very distinct possibility. I realize that there are far worst tragedies in the world then an entire area being all shiny and new, but I maintain that the best way to create an authentic environment is to let it occur naturally. Why did Carter have to buy the entire area, and redevelop it all at once? Was one multi million dollar high rise just not challenging enough???

  2. I noticed a rendering of the 14th street bridge that includes a park accompanying the bridge. It even looks as if it includes a 13th St. crossing.

    The buildings in the rendering also look like actual projects and not just filler for the sake of the rendering. But I'm going to asume that they are not real beacuse no one has mentioned them.

    Does anyone have any details on the bridge and/or the buildings?


    It's the proposed 15th st bridge not 13th st. There has been talk of capping the connector in that area with a park, but at this time that's all it is...just talk. As far as the buildings go, to my knowledge none of those are actual proposals from anyone. The only thing in that area that I have heard of is TWELVE Midtown but that has at best been postponed.

  3. I promise you maverick I am not mad. You and I actually agree on quite a bit. If you were to go back and read some of my other posts you would know that I am probably much more pessimistic on the future of our oil supplies then you are. For years I advocated the building of mass transit into the burbs. What i have come to realize is that transit does not and will not work in the suburbs, at least American suburbs. They are simply too diffuse to make any real difference in either traffic congestion or energy use. Automobile suburbs are a historical anomoly, and I fully believe that our childrens children will look back at the way most of us currently live as a time of unbelievable waste. Daily life as you know it (and I am assuming that you live in said burbs based on some of your posts) is not possible without cheap oil. As you have said yourself the time of cheap oil is rapidly appraoching, some would say it is already here and that we are merely playing symantics with the budget by calling the war in Iraq defense spending instead of what it is, oil protection money. Unfortunately, I see no real alternative to oil on the horizon, not even close. But...back to the topic at hand...

    You are erroneously assuming that most or even the majority of people commuting out of Cobb and Gwinett are coming into the city. If all of the commuters on 75 and 85 worked in MT or DT then you would have already hit on the perfect solution...kind of. Even with that scenario, how do people get from their house to the station or from the station to their office? Unfortunately, most commutes are from suburb to suburb where the above problem gets even worse. The only place that transit has a chance of gaining real traction is in the urban areas of our city. If you would like to know more about why, I would suggest reading "How Cities Work" by Alex Marshall.

    I want to stress to you that I am not opposed to transit, in fact you will have a hard time finding someone that believes that the car is as big of a problem as I believe it to be. I am however opposed to spending billions of $ on transportation systems that will not achieve the desired results. You say that streetcars are merely ornamental, I would argue that only in the urban areas of our region (Buckhead, MD, DT, Decatur, Marietta) does transit have even a prayer of achieving what you want it to.

    Ultimately, suburbia is dysfunctional and I see no reason to invest billions more to perpetuate a style of living that is ridiculously wastefull and already unbelievably subsidized.

    Here's to city living!!!

  4. You can disagree all you want, the fact is that once you get outside of the urban core, even in NY, the percentage of commuters that use mass transit is in or just above single digits. As for the rest of the world, show me one country, just one, whose built environment is as dispersed and auto oriented as ours. Canada would probably be the closest and even they really aren't in the same league.

    I can guess the cities that you would tick off as the examples of "extreme" sucess stories of commuter rail. NY, DC, San Fran, Chicago. You can't compare them to Atlanta. They are a different type of city. All of those cities I just mentioned have ring cities with clearly defined cores of their own. Atlanta does not. No matter how much you wish it to be so, transit will not work make any discernable difference in traffic in a city like Atlanta, at least not into the forseeable future.

    And yes, I favor rebuilding the streetcars system in Atlanta over helping to solve the commute problems of someone who moved to BFE and then wonders why it takes him/her so long to get to work. Why should we as a society make multi billion $ investments so you can live in the middle of nowhere??? As far as practical goes, the only place transit has a hope of capturing more then just a token ridership is in the urban core. And the only real traffic issue facing this region is the assumption that people can choose to live wherever they want and then expect society to pony up the money to make their life convenient.

  5. I think MARTA should really invest on extending the N/S line to Alpharetta. I think that most of the folks there are VERY anxious to have it, and commuters on GA 400 would definitely use it.

    Some would. I could show you a million studies that say most will not. At least not without a more convenient way to get to their final destination. At a projected cost nearing a billion, yes billion, $$$ I don't think the benefit comes close to warranting that kind of investment. The money would be better spent rebuilding the streetcar system in Atlanta. The reality is that most suburban commuters will not use mass transit, not because they don't want to, but because it is impracticle in a suburban environment.

  6. I myself am getting tired of the obsession with the entire thing, but I do want the law to be upheld. If Vick broke the law and was involved in the ordeal, he needs to be punished. If he was not involved and did not break the law, then we should drop the matter.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. Let me get back to you. I've been so busy following the Braves for the past couple of weeks that I haven't paid much attemtion to the story.

    The thing I'm tired of is having a thug as a QB. They, whoever they are ( as if the establishment even had the time and inclination to coordinate a witch hunt for Vick), are not picking on anyone. When he finally grows up , realizes he doesn't live in the 'hood anymore, and generally starts acting right, "they" will stop picking on him. In my opinion, we traded the wrong player when we sent Schaub to Houston.

  7. What's it like up there on your perch? You seem to have everything all figured out. Your example of a nation that has forsaken consumerism is absolutley perfect. I'm sure that being run by a nut job dictator has abosolutely nothing to do woth North Korea's current state of affairs. If only Gucci or Prada or Land Rover would open a store all of their problems would disappear, but what else can be expected from someone whose rebuttal rests on "You're a communist"? I half expected to see a nanny-nanny boo boo somewhere in your post. Also unsuprising from someone as self righteous as you come off as, you missed the entire point of my arguement. I have no problem with the consumption of goods and services. My problem is that we are literally consumed with consuming. So much so that consumer debt is at it's highest point ever, even when adjusted for inflation, relative to income. We, both individually and as a nation, are spending ourselves into ruin.

    As for your claim of communism, isn't if kind of funny that the worlds largest communist nation holds roughly $8 trillion in reserves, while the worlds largest capitalist nation has roughly the same amount in debt? But your right, nothing to worry about...keep spending.

  8. I almost can't believe Atlanta's growing this fast.


    I saw the same article, and to me, what is most impressive about Atlanta'a growth ( and I mean city) is that is is being fueled by domestic citizens instead of immigrants. All of the big cities, NY, Boston, Chicago, San Fran, all would have lost population in that time period if it weren't for immigrants. I think that speaks to the strength of Atlanta's revitalization.

  9. Hmm.. Where's the oil in Afghanistan ? Serbia ?

    I for one think the news/media is sensationalist and things aren't as bad as they like to make them out to be. In the 70's we were going to run out of oil before the year 2000 and we were on the verge of an ice age... Whatever sells!

    Back onto the topic of this board, I prefer living in the city because of the vibrant nature of city life. I love the idea of being able to walk to no fewer the 50 quality restaurants within 15 minutes of my home and hopefully, if the midtown-mile continues to build-out, I'll soon be able to walk to all my shopping destinations as well.

    Serbia was not about oil. I never stated that all wars ever fought have been about oil.

    As far as Afghanistan is concerned, you should be able to make the connection fairly easily. If not, please read the history of American/Saudi relations.

    With regards to the news media, I would say they have not paid as much attention to the energy situation as they should. If one wants info on the subject he/she must dig for it. I could recomend a few books if you would like...

  10. I don't think you're preaching to the chior. I personally don't share your pessimistic view on the future. I agree that we should protect the environment, but I think that will come with making changes elsewhere. I see transit ridership up across America, I see urban living ever increaseing, and even in the suburbs you are seeing new urbanist projects, and traditional neighborhoods becoming more popular all the time. You're stil going to get that kind of statement from time to time. I am interested in this opinion because it is so very different from my own.

    With all due respect Sparten, my view is not pessimistic, but realistic. If you doubt that the industrialized world will go to war to secure ever shrinking amounts of energy, all you need to do is turn on the nightly news. Do you honestly think that we would give a rats ass what was going on in the Middle East if there was no oil underneath all that sand??? Without that "black gold" they are sitting on, there would be no multi billionaire Saudis, Dubai would be just another desert backwater, and we would care as much about the Middle East as we do Africa now. One only need to look at the supply demand projections of oil consumption to realize that sooner or later (and I fear sooner) something MUST give. Given that reality, do we go on advocating the status quo simply because that is what the "market" wants? Or do we start to come to the realization that our "American way of life" is ultimately unsustainable, and start to make the choices to place ourselves on a stronger footing? The longer we wait to make those choices, the more draconian they will be.

  11. I'd ilke to thank those who came up with an intelligent response to Unifour's statement. We may disagree with it, but thats no reason not to respect his opinion.

    I think that the market does what people want. And they want urban living more and more. Otherwise, you wouldn't see eight 40 storey proposed towers in ONE project. More and more people want to live in an environment that doesn't require driving to do everything, including crossing a street. Calling transit names speaks more of ignorance than of anything else. A packed train is much more desirable than a packed interstate, because with a pakced train you are still moving.

    Honestly Sparten, it was all I could do to leave my post as short and to the point as it was. What i really wanted to say, has been said a million times before and I have a feeling I would be preaching to the choir.

    It is staggering to me that some people still advocate that the careless and excessive use of natural resources should be allowed, if not downright ecouraged, simply beacuse it is what the market wants, regardless of what the implications may be. Last time I checked we have to share this world with all the other countries on the planet...well, actually, I guess we don't, but if we choose not to, we will come to look at current global situations as the good ole days. War will become a permament part of life, the draft wil be reinstated, defecits will eventually cripple the economy as military spending doubles or even triples. See, the market has a hard time factoring in externalities like the one I just gave. If we could find a way to include those expenses into the supply/demand charts, I wonder if the market might start to change.

    Oh, yeah...I think I heard somewhere that it was bad for the environment too.

  12. Not me, the central city population is irrelevant in today's metropolitan world. I only hope Atlanta doesn't fall for the watermelon environmentalist policies regarding density, transit oriented development, communter rail and so forth. Atlanta's high quality of life is due to it offering what most people desire-a good sized yard and nice homes and ever increasing consumer choices combined with successful pro-business policies which brings the jobs needed to raise the standard of living. Around the world, density is falling as people grow wealthier and move to bigger homes and bigger yards and drive thier own cars. Most people dislike cramped living and riding a hot smelly train crammed like sardines. Atlanta will probably fall for the environmentalist policies, but if they want to kill the capitalist goose that lays the golden eggs, they really will stop growing.

    Please stay in North Carolina

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