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  1. 11 minutes ago, JBS said:

    I have personally (legally) parked in neighborhoods among other cars that clearly belonged to people visiting the greenway. Not every access point has a lot. That said, we agree...no parking signs should work (I advocated for them in my comment). I still think neighborhoods should have the right to decide if they want access. If there is no parking allowed, the lack of access is overwhelmingly punishing the residents and not other visitors. 

    If the city owned that 215' sliver of land across the creek, there would be a greenway going there.   They might have a discussion with the neighborhood, but they would have built it with input. It has been in the works for a decade or more.  But since CD and CCC wouldn't sell, they had to go through the motions and ultimately bail because it wasn't worth a legal battle for it.

    There are more neighborhoods that would use that than just the folks of Green Rea.   Montibello, Montibello Crossing, Carmel Valley, Quail View, the 100+ Carmel South patio/town homes (which are connected to Green Rea) are all < 0.5m from Green Rea.    Now they will have to walk down Carmel, which has crap sidewalks on super busy road, for almost 2m to Ryder. 

    IMHO, the greenway is for the greater good of the ENTIRE county.  

    Sorry...end rant.  This has been a huge pet peeve for me.  Also sorry for anyone who lives on Green Rea and is reading this. I always seemed to run out of dog poop bags right around your "Say No to Green Rea Greenway" signs.  Apologies.   Maybe if I had a greenway to run on, I wouldn't have had that issue.

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  2. 1 hour ago, JBS said:

    I'm fine with a neighborhood declining a greenway connection (I wish they wouldn't but it should be their call, parking is a legitimate concern in many instances). I do think restricting parking to residents and guests is a better idea though. Regarding CCC, if the proposed greenway route is on their land, it should be up to members to decide if they want it. Again, I absolutely wish they would allow it. I use greenways an average of 5 days a week and they are awesome. That trail through the Lintmen's property is going to be great. I do think neighborhoods and businesses who oppose are shortsighted. Read the real estate listings for any greenway adjacent neighborhood, they are considered HUGE amenities and definitely increase home values. As my wife knows, I maintain the land behind my 3 acres in Weddington for easy access and passage by others, unfortunately most neighbors oppose paths behind their homes. 

    Where is greenway parking a legitimate concern (real question)?  There are dozens of access points without parking along McMullen and McAlpine and I never see cars parked illegally.  I have been using those two greenways for a decade plus and never see cars parked at the access points where it says no parking.  Does that mean it never happens, no.  But it ain't often.

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  3. 1 hour ago, CLT2014 said:

    Green Rea is very affluent area with some homes north of $3 million in there.... the residents claimed they were concerned about:

    • An increase in foot traffic from other neighborhoods along Carmel Road trying to walk or jog down Green Rea to get to the greenway. Green Rea does not have any sidewalks and that was not in scope for the greenway plan (sample image below) and residents claimed it would make near collisions more likely. 
    • An increase in vehicle traffic in their community by being the nearest access point to the greenway for the neighborhoods along / north on Carmel Road. With no designated parking lot, cars would park on "their streets." Sample image of street layout + access point below. Residents say they already deal with traffic from having the middle school at the end of the street, but the school at least has designated parking and a campaign to "be a good neighbor," including annual gifts / treats made by students for the neighbors. 

    The thing the neighborhood didn't publicly say... but is likely a factor, is the greenway connection would put them within a .2 mile walk of the Shadowlake subdivision which is the least affluent single family neighborhood along Carmel Road between 51 and Fairview. Via Carmel Road, Shadowlake is a little over a mile away / can't get to them. I don't think residents in these $1 million+ homes want Shadowlake walking through their neighborhood. Entrance to Shadowlake subdivision is last image below.

    It's this, but with less "no shadowlake" and more "no anyone not wealthy". 

    All their other points were debunked in the meeting.  Country Day kept bring up "crime" that the greenway would bring.  City countered that crime rates on greenways are very very low.  Worried about parking.  City said there would be no trailhead parking, no parking signs, and cars towed if they did.  They said that wasn't enough.  They said it would create more traffic.  City..."there is no parking, therefor no traffic".  They said that wasn't enough.   The roads aren't safe to walk on.  City...residents regularly use the road to walk / walk the dog.  Well...we do it but it isn't safe because of the school traffic.  

    So the school creates traffic messes because of their poor setup for drop off pickup in their Range Rovers, but that is OK because they school sends them gifts.  The school even had the nerve to say, cars lined up along the road for pickup and block the road.  What if EMS had to use the road more because of the greenway?

    The bottom line is they don't want anyone that doesn't live in their neighborhood, or that doesn't drive their kid in CD in the Range Rover, to enter Green Rea at any time. 

    I REALLY wish they would have used eminent domain and taken the sliver of land anyways. That is exactly the kind of thing it is for.  Even on the call, the city said they have NEVER had this kind of response to a greenway build out. 



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  4. 12 hours ago, lit said:

    McAlpine Creek goes right through Carmel Country Club too. I wasn't sure how that would work

    It won't.  Carmel County Club was on the community calls and they want nothing to do a greenway.  It will 100% not happen.  If you look at some future county greenway maps, it bypasses the CC.  You would have to get on Carmel and then into Montibello to get back on it.

    The city nor county own any of that land around the CCC and then Emily Maynard is not going to  allow a greenway to go through their 10 acres.  Only chance for the CCC land is eminent domain.  They were one of the drivers behind blocking the extension to Green Rea and had multiple banners proudly protesting it on the golf course property.

    This was the "old" map that had the greenway ending at Green Rea.  Now it will end at Ryder, 0.8m south of Green Rea.


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  5. 20 hours ago, JeanClt said:

    Yes, that is why it was realigned. I think you misunderstood what I meant. The budget impacts is why construction itself has no timeline in other words it has not started and there’s no set time to break ground as of yet. That is what I meant to say. If I’m not mistaken even that realigned greenway isn’t complete.

    I read your comment as it was realigned due to the budget.  Sorry!

    Anyways, as I mentioned, the re-alignment is basically done.  I got word from the project planner yesterday that it should go out for bid in fall 2022. 

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  6. 8 hours ago, JeanClt said:

    Mecklenburg County realigned that greenway and stated it was due to NCDOT budget impacts that there was no timeline for construction. That greenway was in partnership with NCDOT.  



    It is truly a shame NCDOT’s budget has been so negatively affected.

    It was realigned due to County Day and Green Rea protesting it.  I was in the public meetings and stay in contact with the Senior Planner of the extension.  Country Day did not want it and would not sell the connecting land. Green Rea residents protested it with giant signs in their yard for a year.  The city had the option of "taking" the land but since those "no non-rich people near our neighborhood please" didn't want it, they dropped it.  Trust me...I live within earshot of County Day Middle.  

    It even says right on the page:

    August 10, 2021 Update: Mecklenburg County Park and Recreation is providing an update on the McAlpine Creek Greenway project (Johnston Road to Green Rea Road). Due to difficulty acquiring the necessary real estate to make a greenway trail connection to Green Rea Road at this time, the Department is exploring a new trail alignment that terminates the greenway north of Highway 51/Pineville-Matthews Road (at the proposed trailhead parking lot). This alignment will include an access to Ryder Avenue, consistent with one of the options shared at the December 2020 virtual community engagement meeting (see map below). We will use any remaining project funding that would have paid for the connection to Green Rea Road to improve access to the greenway trail.

    As of now: this extension will go up for bid in the fall with completion late 2023, a full 2 years late.  


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  7. 9 hours ago, JeanClt said:

    Mecklenburg County is sorely lacking in the greenway department and the need for the buildout is great. Personally would use it if they were connected and more accessible! Biking also would be much easier too in a more comfortable environment.

    Mecklenburg Greenway map:

    Based on the speed of building out the greenways, I will be long retired before I see much of any connectivity in South Charlotte.  We moved to to our current house with expectations of the Green Rea to McMullen extension to be fully done by now (Construction was to start spring 2020).  Fast forward two years and the only work that has been done is about a dozen stakes in the ground marking where the trail might go for about 25ft... and the project scrapped 0.8m of the greenway extension because County Day got mad and wouldn't give the county access to a sliver of their property.   Still in "Design" phase.  LOL

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  8. On 1/9/2022 at 9:02 PM, The Real Clayton said:

    - Does Salud actually brew at their site (or anywhere other than at Heist)?  (By the way, last I asked Heist, they (Heist) still brewed some of their (Heist's) batches on their OG system.  But also last I knew, Salud was also using that system.)
    • Yes and is looking for a warehouse to expand, and possibly a second location.

    - Does Sycamore even brew at their OG location anymore?
    • Yes

    - Is NoDa OG taproom open?

    • No, just brew there

    - Does Protagonist brew at both locations?

    • Supposedly, but the NoDa location never smells like brewing in there.

    - Any other out of town breweries with taprooms and/or brewing here?

    • See below "coming soon"

    - Is Free Range open at Camp North End?

    • Its not a brewery its a tap room and bar

    - Wasn't there supposed to be a taproom in Plaza Mid for some Gastonia brewery or something?

    • Rent was too Damn High

    Edit: Oh man, I guess Lost Worlds needs to be grouped in with Primal and Eleven Lakes!


    Some Rumors & Other Notes

    • OMB Adding Two new locations in Cornelius and Ballantyne
    • Protagonist Adding a Uptown Location
    • Hippin Hops opening in NoDa this summer
    • You missed Vaulted Oak
    • HopFly opening in old Unknown Space
    • Hi-Wire Opening on Tremont
    • Weathered Souls opening in "LoSo"
    • Southern Strain opening tap room in Plaza Midwood

    • New Brewery coming to Mint Street
    • New Brewery coming to the Platform in SouthEnd

    • Saucy Brew Works coming to Morehead St
    • A brewery of some sort will be coming to Lintmens
    • Anthem Food Hall will have a brewery taproom

    That all ya got? LOL. 

    Oh and the Suffolk Punch coming soon in SP mall. 

    interesting that OMB is the Northwood Ballantyne brewery.  Makes sense as they have the most disposable income it appears and looks to be a big spot to fill.  

    Why would Protagonist open another location in uptown?  Seems like massive overkill.  Something like that would do a KILLING in someplace like Stonecrest or Blakeney.  Good pizza and beer  in Ballantyne...the rent checks would write themselves.  

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  9. Resident Culture Southend tap room opening Friday:  https://charlotte.axios.com/283703/sneak-peek-resident-cultures-new-south-end-taproom-opens-friday/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axioslocal_charlotte&stream=top

    Anyone been to Midnight Mulligan yet?  I had hope to check it out but alas, they aren't open on Mondays....the one day a week I am right there every other week (usually at Lucky Dog). 

    Hopfly is brewing in Charlotte but keeping an opening date close to the vest.  Lot to "undo" in the Unknown space. 

    No updated date on Hi-Wire or Gilde. 

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  10. On 12/2/2021 at 1:43 PM, TheRealClayton said:

    Duke Energy's second HQ building (already on the market), and parking deck (going on the market soon) are great opportunities for expansion, and I'm sure Lincoln Harris would be one of the many companies interested in the dirt under those buildings.

    So what are the thoughts on the Mint Street Deck?  Tepper buy as insurance in case new stadium falls through as something he can develop for entertainment area?

  11. It's going to be quite something when plans start coming out.  When is the Pipe and Foundry in Oakville supposed to be up and running?  Last I can find is 2023.  

    I would have to think some sort of legal agreement is in place for Tepper to buy the property when they vacate or a buy and lease back until they move?   If he is already buying up property, I'm sure the master plans are already in place.   Oh to be a design and architect firm!

  12. On 11/5/2021 at 11:04 AM, Jt282506 said:

    Burial doesn't even have permits for its taproom yet, so no way there. 

    Just to update, and that the manager wasn't crazy when they said they would be opening soon...

    Burial has been opening their patio on select days.  The "lounge" is open again today and Friday from 4-8pm with draft beer along with the to-go packages.  So while they haven't begun the upfit inside, they have their ABC permits and are slinging beers on the patio.

  13. On 12/15/2021 at 12:08 PM, Hushpuppy321 said:

    Rezoning Requests 2021-160 and 2021-161 are for new CMS High School and Elementary School Sites (@ Torringdon and Ardrey Kell Rd Areas Respectively) which I knew but what I didnt know until I looked at Site Plans was they are both proposed with 420 & 430 Apartments each for 850 total (Does include a few Townhomes) units.  How are these proposed schools going to ease overcrowding when high density is proposed right along with the schools themselves?  Seems like same thing with that K-8 STEAM School at Rea Farms and the coming Ballantyne Reimagined will bring thousands more residents to the schools as well.  Does CMS going in with a Developer like this at least save the School System any $$?  I’m sure it doesn’t help with school overcrowding….

    It helps over crowding because they are adding a HS that will probably house 2500+ students.  They aren't just moving a high school.  As for new apartments on-site creating issues with overcrowding...are we really expecting out of county high school kids to be moving here?  Sure some people might move there so that they can go to that school...but then that opens a spot at another school.  EVERY high school is overcrowded (except for where my kid goes, Northwest School for the Arts LOL).  And from my experience in apartment living, new apartments rarely have high school teenagers.  When I got divorced and lived in an apartment for a few years, I think my large apartment complex had maybe 4 high school kids.  Way more elementary, and just 2 middle school kids.

    As for adding apartments and townhomes...I am sure working with a developer is helping offset some of the school building costs.  

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  14. 9 minutes ago, Madison Parkitect said:

    I won't / legally can't give any hints one way or the other about any brands they're putting there, but if they get all the tenants they're going after it'll be a major food and drink destination for all of south Charlotte.

    As a South Charlotte resident, this is awesome news.  Just hope I am not retired (2035) before it gets built!  

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  15. 2 hours ago, Madison Parkitect said:

    There may or may not be something coming to the Ballantyne Reimagined project, but I can't confirm who or what.

    If you hint at Legion, I will smack you. LOL.  Something different please!  But yeah, something on one of those greenspaces would be awesome. 

    2 hours ago, grodney said:

    The Burton's space at Blakeney would have been perfect.  Actually, the Shake Shack space at Blakeney next to the green area would have been PERFECT with the outdoor space.  The Dean & Duluca space at Stonecrest is still open.  The one thing all these spots have in common is that I'm sure the lease is ridiculously expensive.  But if Suffolk can do South Park, yeah, you would think somebody could do somewhere in the greater Ballantyne area.

    While leases can be expensive in Ballantyne, the centers can offer deals to drive up traffic in the area, like Simon is doing for Suffolk at SouthPark.  And these don't need to be big expensive buildouts for a taproom.  Brewery/Taproom brings people to the shopping center that wouldn't already be there.  Someplace like Blakeney might be too expensive but there are other lessor visited centers that could add one.  But yeah, that Dean and Deluca spot would be killer location.  I wonder though if that large patio would be allowed to have beer, or if it would have to sectioned out to just a section for the brewery.

  16. 13 hours ago, Bikeguy said:

    Cluck Design.  NUF said....

    I assume that is good?

    They are designing a tap house to be built on Carmel Rd, which will be walking distance to my house, but besides permits being issued and them being listed, no information about the project.  I'm hoping for something good/cool/nice, but at this point, anything beer related that I can walk to easily is a huge bonus in my book.

  17. 5 hours ago, HopHead said:

    Great addition to SouthPark mall.  Nice to see a local spot instead of some big chain.  I don't think I ever ate at the California Pizza place in all the years I've lived here. This should do well! 

    The biggest deterrent at that spot is that it's completely hidden by Dicks, and not an entrance most people use.  It's a "locals" entrance haha.  Hopefully they do some marketing in the mall because if you aren't from Charlotte, or for that matter Southend, people aren't going to realize "Suffolk Punch" listed under restaurants is a brewery/taproom.        

  18. https://charlotte.axios.com/276061/scoop-suffolk-punch-is-adding-a-taproom-and-beer-garden-at-a-revamped-plaza-at-southpark-mall/

    Suffolk Punch heading to SouthPark mall.  Interesting.  Not a big fan of their beer but sometimes stop in if the wifey wants a cocktail after stopping for beers at Triple C.  I mean I am not making a trip just to go to there from home, but if I ever go back to the office, might stop in after work if they have anything interesting on.  Should do just fine with mall traffic and with the growing amount of apartments going up.  Legion is usually busy, at least when the weather is nice.  Would have liked to see pretty much any other brewery do this concept at the mall but it is what it is.  Progress.  Now do Ballantyne.  How places like Noda haven't opened a tap room in South CLT is beyond me. 

  19. 22 minutes ago, NeverSummer said:

    I am not having a hard time believing you, and I also know the genesis of all of this. I simply found the ABC links and assumed that approved meant approved. How do you know otherwise?

    Because the state ABC isn't going to approve beer cans with strap on dildo's and pocket pussies on them.   Did you read the article?  

    The state’s ABC commission is notorious for being cautious when it comes to anything racy.

    In August, the commission denied the request from a Utah brewery to distribute its “Polygamy Porter” throughout North Carolina. The label depicted a barely dressed man flanked by three women, who were also barely dressed.

    In that case, the governing group cited a code that prohibits statements on labels that are “undignified, immodest, or in bad taste,” the local station WRAL reported.

    For its sin — not attaining approval for its labels — Sycamore will be issued a notice of violation, which will probably arrive within a month, Qureshi says. Then they’ll likely face a fine. Around $500-$1,000, Qureshi estimates.

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