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  1. While riding through downtown Greensboro yesterday, I noticed Ellenburg and Shaffer are moving. This is the stain glass place across from Natty's. It appears they are relocating to other states. Also RIM is closed and it looked as if the Elm Street Center is for sale.
  2. If you never ate at this restaurant, then you missed the best restaurant in all of downtown Greensboro. The dinner menu was killer and they had the best pork chops and spaghetti and meat balls i have ever eaten. In fact there is no other restaurants in all of downtown that has food this good at these price points. It is truly a sad day. I know alot of people will miss this restaurant.
  3. Basically this is small town thinking for you at it's best. And your right peopel are too damn lazy to park in a deck and walk. Until people's attitute changes about parking decks it will be hard to compete with the Friendly Center and strip Malls. People around here are spoiled. I do hope they get this worked out though.
  4. So far downtown has lost 2 art gallerys, minj grill, and according to 99 blocks a popular night spot will be closing soon. I wonder if it is ChurchHills. I heard they were not doing good. The Metro is also closing soon. Hopefully downtown want turn into another ghost town before this recession is over. But so far it don't look good.
  5. I lived in Southside on MLK for 3 years and sold just before the real estate crisis. I now live behind Natty Greene's in an apartment. They have said that this building has been 50% sold for about 2 years. I guess they haven't had any new sales in 2 years. I have checked on this building several times and I have recently found out the banks are not loaning money on condo buidings unless they are 51% sold out. With that said, lets hope they are 51% sold out or they might have a problem getting a mortgage. Having lived downtown for 5 years now, I have made many friends and know a lot of restaurant owners personally. The ones you mentioned are doing ok, but Fincastles almost closed last fall due to issues with the building owner. Metro is getting ready to close soon and most restaurants owners will tell you there business is not that great. All of those places are nice, but don't bring in the volume of people that the bars and clubs bring. All of those are great additions. The amount of people visiting downtown has dropped off tremendously over the past 5 years. It is not as poplar as it was 5 years ago. One thing that I have observed is that news media seems to play up how poplar downtown is. It is almost like they are speaking it into being, calling things that are not as though they were. I am not saying this is a bad thing, but I think alot of it is hype and just done to get people to come downtown, or interested in downtown. I have said before and I will say it again. I think downtown Greensboro has a great future in the entertainment venue, but I seriously doubt it will grow much beyond that. It will be a place where club goers and empty nesters like to live because of a community feel, but as far as downtown attracting new towers and high paying jobs, I don't see it happening. The next area that will see job growth in Greensboro will be in and around the airport.
  6. I can afford it, but there is not enough in downtown Greensboro that would prompt me to consider paying those kind of dues. Now if downtown offered everything I needed including retail, a grocery store, a hardware store, pharmacy etc, I might consider it, but not for a bunch of bars and clubs. When downtown becomes more balanced with high paying Jobs being #1, then investing in this kind of building might be good, but I would not consider investing in this kind of property after living in downtown for the past 5 years, I don't see it moving very fast, infact it has dropped off tremendouly in the past 5 years. Most of the restaurants excluding Natty Green's and Mellow Mushroom, are struggling. And retail has never been good.
  7. I am not sure who is going to be able to afford these condos. Did you know that the Home Owners Association fees are .30 cents a square foot a month. So if you have a 1000 sf condo you will be paying $300.00 a month in HOA dues. I was told that this covered parking, water, insurance and window washing. If you have a 1200 sf unit you will be paying $360.00 a month. I don't that many people who can afford these kind of prices in Greensboro. I think these remaining units will be on the market a long time.
  8. Looks like a Comfort Inn Hotel to me. I am not impressed but I guess downtown Greensboro will take whatever they can get.
  9. Thats old new The owners of Sweat Potatoes closed The Cotton Mill Restaurant, but has opened again under new management with the same name. The Cotton Mill Restaurant located at the Brookstown Mill has reopened under new management. Steven Butcher, formerly the general manager at the Twin City Chop House, took over the restaurant in late September. The Cotton Mill was previously opened and operated by Stephanie Tyson and Vivian Joyner of Sweet Potatoes in the fall of 2007. They closed the in July 2008.
  10. Charlotte - Nascar -- Banking -- New South -- Families -- Boring Tampa - Retirement -- same -- the bay -- old -- water / bay Miami - Cuban -- Art Deco and non-stop party -- Caribbean, latin -- Flashy -- Gay Oklahoma City - Bombing -- nothing -- new basketball team -- Cow Town -- no where Indianapolis - Indianapolis 500 -- similar to Charlotte -- the 500 -- Racing -- Cold Providence - Boston's little brother -- P-town and gayness -- Boston Lite -- Coloquial -- Smells Raleigh - Capitol -- universities -- Cary -- Capital -- Traffic Nashville - Country Music -- same -- country music -- Country Music -- Porter Wagoner Louisville - Baseball Bat -- horses -- waterfront, Ali -- underlooked -- nothing Memphis - Blues -- BBQ and Beale Street -- Beale St., Elvis -- Fed Ex -- Elvis San Antonio - Military -- nothing -- canal/riverwalk -- Alamo -- Nothing Denver - Green -- scenery and mountains -- Mile High -- skiing -- Snow Portland - Smart -- green / somewhat hippy -- bicycles and transit -- Rainy -- Young Seattle - Rainy -- same -- Pike's fish market -- Rainy -- Armpit of the us Boston - Colonial -- history -- intellectualism, universities -- Traditional Minneapolis - Cold -- nothing -- overstreet walkways (maybe that's St. Paul?) -- Cold -- Cold Albuquerque - Desert -- arts -- pueblos? -- Desert Asheville -- Warm Austin - College -- growing -- bell tower, Longhorns -- Over-hyped- MTV Real World Dallas - JFK -- super sprawl -- Cowboys, Who shot JR? - 1980's -- Nothing Houston - Sprawling -- same -- oil money -- Sprawl - nothing Orlando - Families -- Disney -- Bloom -- Tourists - Swamp Atlanta - Traffic - rap, congestion -- ATL, Olympics -- "Can Do" - MARTA Milwaukee - Chicago's little brother -- beer -- decay -- Forgotten -- Laverne and Shirley Chicago - Skyscrapers -- lake, dense -- progressive, birthplace of skyscrapers -- Poor Man's NYC -- getto Des Moines - Heartland = farming -- skyscrapers on the plains -- Rollercoaster -- nothing Asheville - Hippies -- art (and actually the true underbelly of A-ville, rich out of staters) -- historic art deco -- Biltmore House -- Granola Greensboro - Colleges -- city nearby -- ACC -- Boring -- Party City Durham - Baseball park --dad lives there -- Tobacco Road -- Duke -- Duke Medical Center Winston Salem - Forgotten -- cigarettes -- Cesar Pelli's 2nd best building in NC -- Wake Forest -- Krespy Kreme -- Hanes -- Birmingham (AL) - Vulcan park, steel mills -- Declining -- Ruben Studdard Omaha - college baseball -- Warren Buffett -- Nothing Jacksonville - waterfront -- The Boring Big City in FL -- Cops Richmond - "under the radar" as you don't really hear it mentioned that much, Confederate capital -- Brick -- Tobacco Baltimore - Inner harbor, war of 1812, The Wire -- Sugar -- historic Salk Lake City - Mormons, Olympics, "SLC Punk" -- Mormon -- Cult Little Rock - Clinton -- MTV Special on Gangs -- Nothing Greenville (SC) - Pedestrian bridge -- Charming Downtown -- Kewl Pittsburgh - three rivers, steel mills -- mini-NYC that didn't quite adapt fast enough and wasn't on the coast -- Nothing Philadelphia - Liberty bell, Rocky -- Bad Attitudes -- Dirty
  11. Winston-Salem has moved closer toward reaching an ambitious national economic goal. the Winston-Salem metropolitan statistical area was ranked for the first time among the top 100 best-performing cities in the nation. It ranks 200 metropolitan areas based on economic growth, including both long-term and short-term measurements of employment and salary growth and indicators of high-tech output. The Winston-Salem MSA was ranked 99th overall, up from 128th in 2007. The area improved in seven of nine categories from the 2007 report. By comparison, the Greensboro-High Point MSA -- which consists of Guilford, Randolph and Rockingham counties -- slid to 141st from 136th in 2007. The bright spot for the Winston-Salem MSA in the Milken index was a No. 18 ranking for gross domestic product from its high-tech sector from 2002 to 2006, primarily related to jobs created at Dell Inc.'s plant in Forsyth County and at the research park. Metro 2008 2007 Job growth Wage growth Raleigh-Cary 2nd 10th 11th 57th Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord 26th 23rd 35th 49th Winston-Salem 99th 128th 104th 158th Greensboro-High Point 141st 136th 132nd 167th http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2008/se...-100-list/news/
  12. I was in dowtown Durham today and decided I would take a tour of the American Tobacco Historic District to see exactly what kind of work Struever Brothers does. I must say that I was impressed with that they have done in downtown Durham. I cannot wait for them to get started in downtown Winston. If they do anything in the PTRP like they have done in Durham, then it will definitely bring the cool factor to downtown. Check it out: http://www.sber.com/home.php
  13. I saw this on the Fox8 news Friday night that downtown could support 300,000 sf of retail shopping. That Ed Wolverton is a real go getter. I loved it when he said the days of downtown being able to recruit a Nordstroms or a Macy are long gone. Really shows what kind of big thinkers we have in charge. We need someone in charge like Citiboi. I would like to see a Target, Harris Teeter, Lowes or Home Depot and definitely some hip clothing shops like maybe a Gap or Banana Republic. The Kress building where the former Rum Runners was located is definitely upsale enough for a nice department store. Add at least 4 or 5 high rises that are taller than 19 or 20 stories so we can catch up with Winston.
  14. I think my comments on an earlier post were very positive on downtown Greensboro: "Lets be happy with what downtown is developing into and focus on continuing to promote it as the Triad"s main entertainment district, instead of a bunch of boring high rise office buildings that are lifeless after 5 and on weekends". I am sorry you are so touchy on this subject. I am nor for or against any Triad city. I see good and bad in all 3 Triad cities. I have just presented the facts the way I see them. If it makes you feel better, there may be a high rise built in downtown Greensboro at some point. I get back with you on this in about 10 years. Until then keep dreaming.
  15. If I remember correctly, it was about a year ago that Ray Gibbs said big things were going to happen according to your post. Ray Gibbs says this, Ray Gibbs knows this, and we are all still waiting for this announcement. Ray Gibbs is long gone, and there has been no big announcement. Now it is Roy Carroll says this and knows this. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with being a big dreamer and everyone wants their city to grow, but I don't think downtown Greensboro is headed in that direction. Since you are so obsessed with high rises, have your ever thought about moving to a bigger city like New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Miami. These are all big cities with great urban cores that are continuing to see big time development like you want to see in downtown Greensboro.
  16. I am sure Roy Carroll has good intentions and probably would like to see an office tower built downtown, but I personally don't think that will happen anytime soon. We all have good intentions and comment on things we would like to see, but when reality hits, that is a different story. Please tell me who you think would fill this 40 story office building? I don't understand your reasoning behind this. I have lived in this city since I was born going on 40+ years now, so I think I now Greensboro well. The topic of this post is Downtown Greensboro Developments and we are not commenting on Charlotte or Atlanta, but since you asked, I do think they are large suburban cities, but they also have large urban cores, and they also have interstates running through or beside the city. Even the size of downtown Winston-Salem with I40 running through it has a very impressive downtown and will continue to grow since access to downtown via I40 is relatively painless. I have had friends from other Triad cities tell me many times that they did not know Greensboro had a downtown. One friend thought downtown GSO was High Point Road in the 4 Season Mall area. Charlotte, Raleigh, and Winston-Salem all have large skylines that demands your attention when passing by and even from a distance. Greensboro's downtown is kind of hidden and really not visible to folks who pass through via I40/I85.
  17. If I recall the next tower was scheduled to be built near the airport not downtown. I am not sure if this has been put on hold or cancelled. The majority of growth in Greensboro will be in and around the airport, where land is cheap. I don't for see a need for any high rise office buildings in downtown Greensboro. Greensboro is a large suburban city with a very small urban core due to the fact that Greensboro is obsessed with annexing everytime they get a chance. The majority of growth that Greensboro will see over the next few years will be due to FedEx and will be concentrated in and around hwy68 and I40. Unfortunatley downtown Greensboro is not convenient to the Interstate. I think the I40, hwy68 area has a better chance of seeing future high rise proposals than downtown. Downtown will continue to grow as a entertainment district, with some low to midrise buildings. Young professionals, singles, empty nesters will be drawn to downtown because it offers a since of community in an urban setting. I don't beleive downtown Greensboro will be able to support to many more expensive condos. Apartments and affordable housing options will have to be offered if downtown wants to continue to grow in population. I am really not sure why some on this fourn are so obsessed with high rise buildings in downtown Greensboro. If downtown GSO would have been a little closer to I40/I85 and if leaders of the past would have foucsed on developing a dense urban core, things might be different today for downtown, but instead Greensboro choose to grow out instead of grow up, which is the main reason it has such a small downtown. Lets be happy with what downtown is developing into and focus on continuing to promote it as the Triad"s main entertainment district, instead of a bunch of boring high rise office buildings that are lifeless after 5 and on weekends.
  18. It will be a long time before a new office tower is needed in downtown Greensboro. Trucking and shipping companies have no use for office towers.
  19. These are really nice. I toured the whole building a few weekends ago. I was really impressed with the quality that went into this restoration. I would choose this over West End Village any day. There is no reason why these should not sale out quick. I think alot of people are not aware of the quality of this project and the location is not bad. It offers great views of the city skyline and it is a short walk to Trade Street and the Arts District.
  20. I think sometimes you are a bit fanitical and unrealistic. I know most of the time you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to downtown Winston-Salem. No, i don't think both cities are equal when it comes to downtown developement. I live in one, and work and in one so I am aware of whats happening in both. Don't get me wrong, I am not for one Triad city verses another, I am just calling things as I see them. The developments and projects in dt Winston are on a higher scale than the few projects in dt Greensboro. I know that The Research Park is committed to bringing 10,000 high paying jobs to dt Winston by year 2020 and maybe even more. This is why there is a greater need for dt housing in Winston. Lets just hope this mega project pans out for downtown Greensboro; otherwise i don't for see things happeing there at the rate they have occurred in the past. I think downtown Greensboro may be at a plateau and without this so called mega project, downtown development will be very slow over the next 5 to 10 years. Remember the Bellemeade project was cancelled due to lack of interest/sales. I know that nothing, and I mean nothing has sold at Southside in months. Sales at Southside has come to a complete standstill on new and existing homes. It took me 6 months to sale my townhome at Southside. Downtown is not as popular as it once was, and without a high playing job, not many can afford to own a place downtown.
  21. Downtown Winston-Salem is big enough to have a dance clubs disctrict, artsy district, and a sophisticted professional district. Hell they even have room for a few seedy districts. I think they currenlty have one nude strip club downtown now. I agree that the attitude has to change in Winston, but Winston is way ahead of the game in downtown developments compared to gso. If the project goes through for gso, hopefully it will spur more development.
  22. Winston-Salem really needs to step it up in the downtown night club and dance venues. If Greensboro can do it, i know Winston can do it better. The problem with Winston is that they have had a bunch of old farts in charge who have almost killed the city over the years in terms of attracting a younger demographic, but I do believe things are changing and this is the time to move forward.
  23. Hell yea its about time downtown Winston gets some nice dance clubs.
  24. Cityboi, i consider you the authority on whats happening in Greensboro, and I appreciate your postings, but it's obvious that you don't have a clue about what's happening in dt Winston. I do not see office growth picking up that much in dt Greensboro compared to dt Winston. I work in dt Winston 5 days a week and i live in dt Greensboro. I 'm just not seeing it. There is no comparison. How often do you come to Winston?
  25. I live in downtown Greensboro, and NO, I cannot see these types of stores coming to downtown since they are already located at Friendly Center, but Winston Salem does not have a Friendly Center 2 miles from downtown. The area where the ballpark is going to be located was recently annexed into the center city. This is why I say these retail shops will be downtown. Actually in the West End, West Salem area, next to the ballpark. It is the developers intent for these retail shops to be like Birkdale Villiage. There will also be a movie theater there. I cannot say what retail shops will be there at this time, but it will be a lot like what Friendly Center has to offer. Winston-Salem is not trying to be like Charlotte. Just because Charlotte does not have retail downtown, does not mean that it cannot happen in Winston-Salem. As you have said, indoor malls are becoming a thing of the past. I think Billy Prim has seen an opportunity to turn a run down area into a destination place. You cannot compare downtown Greensboro, to downtown Winston-Salem, they are completely two different places. I like the small town feel of downtown Greensboro, and the activity on Friday and Saturday nights, especially during warm weather, i have to say is impressive, but I think it will be short lived. I think its just a phase that will pass. DGI needs to foucs on getting more jobs, retail, and other things that anchor and balance downtown besides just a lot of bars and clubs. Once the bars and clubs go, and they will, then the people will go. I live in downtown Greensboro and there is not much going on down there Sunday through Thursday, its just on weekends, and its all centered around the bars and clubs. Downtown Winston-Salem might not be thriving on weekends like Greensboro with young bar hoppers, but in time, downtown Winston-Salem will be the preferred downtown destination of the Triad. With all of the high end condos, the Arts district on Trade, Civic Plaza, Old Salem, proposed ballpark, retail shopping, street cars, research park. These are the type of things that really anchor a downtown, and make it a popular destination opposed to a street full of bars and clubs.
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