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  1. Took long enough. I think Dayton had Meijer like 15 years ago.
  2. I'm confused. I thought this was over with, so there's still hope?
  3. People are excited about it. That effort to force a referendum failed, so it is what it is. I agree that Norfolk, Portsmouth, Newport News, and Hampton are legit cities. People always want to compare Norfolk to Richmond and state that Richmond is more of a city than Norfolk. I can see the arguments both ways. I think that Norfolk is urban for this region, but maybe not so much for other regions, and definitely not by West Coast or East Coast standards. But I've been in plenty of Midwestern cities with density similar or less than Norfolk, and it is not a deal breaker for me. You're right about Midwestern cities with casinos and how those economies are different. For one Cleveland and Detroit aren't defined by tourism. For another they're larger cities. Fair enough.
  4. Cool. Amazon has done this with a lot of the dead malls in Ohio would love to see this here.
  5. So they're really going to redevelop that area. And not just study it for 15 years?
  6. A casino isn't going to do anything for Norfolk. Won't do anything for Portsmouth either. A lot of cities built casinos and they still suck. Did casinos help Cleveland or Detroit? In any meaningful way; I understand those cities have little gentrification action going on but did the casinos make any meaningful impact on their urban areas? Move out of Norfolk if you don't want to be in a city? This is Hampton Roads, having a city that is a suburb that is rural is the entire point of being here I thought you already knew?
  7. May be off topic but what about the new Apple headquarters?
  8. Interesting. I did not know that was up for sale, nor that it had been purchased. Should be interesting. What about the flooding down there? That entire area needs to be raised. Maybe we'll get a new parking garage out of the deal.
  9. Well. Lol. I was under the impression from the article in the Pilot that the developer was going to drain the swamp. I read something about possibly residential there as well as retail. What I would like to see is a high rise mall followed up by mid rise residential and Class A office space out there. I think Janaf could be a Norfolk Town Center, is basically what I am saying. Or at the very least a Norfolk Peninsula Town Center. Of course you still have the eye sore of Military Mall, which, you do have two large employers out there but I think the city should kick everyone out and just go wall to wall business out there. Who else is getting sales other than Ross out there? And that is probably just Christmas. The Food Court is hanging on for dear life there are only two tenants left in the court and if you close the movie theater all bets are off. I love the mall but I've seen this play out again and again in other cities just put it out of its misery already. It is the right thing to do.
  10. Interesting. First time I've ever heard this suggested. What are the obvious reasons?
  11. That reminds me of something one would see in Queens or the Bronx.
  12. Norfolk and Portsmouth are essentially the same city. I often wonder about Newport News and Hampton, but I'm not familiar enough with the Peninsula to make that suggestion. I don't see Virginia Beach or Chesapeake merging with anyone else. Technically Virginia Beach is at a point where it does not need to; already the largest city in Virginia by population and, has the potential to be the largest county by population as well if it were to move in a more progressive direction and stop being so suburban. Nothing for Virginia Beach to gain; yes, one could have a larger city if it were to merge with Norfolk but these are residents who, historically, wanted a suburban life outside of Norfolk to begin with so I don't see them going back to that, even if it is name only. It's like a Toronto vs Vancouver thing. With both cities, the Achilles heel is the Southside. No one wants to see South Virginia Beach or South Chesapeake developed. I'm not so sure that either necessarily needs to be developed into their Northern counterpart but I don't see that changing in either city in our lifetimes. And Williamsburg is never going to merge. You would have an easier time making a city out of James CIty County, puling a "Virginia Beach" and call that Williamsburg than you would getting it to merge with anything else on the Peninsula. There's nothing wrong with Hampton Roads. No different than New England the region just needs a defining city like they have Boston. One of the reasons why people don't know what Hampton Roads, or the Mid-Atlantic, for example, is because there are no real defining things about it. Like people throw DC and Baltimore into the North; apologists say Mid-Atlantic, it is a backhanded way of defining Northern Virginia but then that same crowd does not want into include Hampton Roads in that dynamic. It is maddening. So Mid-Atlantic will never take off for that reason. Some people in DC/Baltimore want to be in the Mid-Atlantic and some people in DC/Baltimore want to be up North. So go figure.
  13. Any of those 5 scenarios work for me, as any of them would result in a larger city, thus more tax revenue due to a higher population, and maybe something could get done around here.
  14. Days of annexation are far behind us. All standing cities annexed what they could, and it is what it is. I am told that a merger would have to happen at the state level. Sort of how New York City came about. I am all for merging cities on the Southside, and another merger among cities on the Peninsula. I am not for merging all seven cities of Hampton Roads. I think that to do so is untenable and entirely too much. The Peninsula has it's own personality, and the Southside has another. I see no real benefit in bringing the two together. I doubt that Chesapeake would merge with anyone. Chesapeake is where people that do not want to be bothered with the experiment that is Hampton Roads go. Especially Southern Chesapeake. I could see Virginia Beach and Norfolk merging. Culturally, a merger, at the very least, of some of the more affluent areas of Chesapeake and Virginia Beach, all of which are conterminous anyway, makes sense. Let Norfolk pick up the scraps, reclaim areas like South Norfolk and those areas that border Virginia Beach. Norfolk could get up to around 300,000, maybe 350,000, best case scenario. Combined Virginia Beach and Chesapeake, or what is left of those areas, would easily reach 600,000 or more. But the reality is that affluent areas, in the United States, simply are not as big as any combination of any of the counties or boroughs in Hampton Roads. What happened in the past, is that we created enormous cities, but the majority of the city was still poor. Look at New York City; Manhattan and Brooklyn, that makes a lot of sense. The other boroughs, not so much; even though those other boroughs have affluent neighborhoods if you were to look at it, I mean really look at it, Manhattan and Brooklyn were the only standing cities. The rest of that is just urbanized farmland. That is the issue I have with merging all seven cities. All you're doing is making Suffolk or Chesapeake out to be the new Queens, or the new Bronx. Virginia Beach acquires even more wealth and becomes the Brooklyn of the area. Norfolk is the new Manhattan. The best one can hope for is that Norfolk can reclaim South Norfolk. I don't think that Chesapeake really wants it anymore. The elephant in the room is that no one wants Portsmouth. Norfolk and Portsmouth should merge. And Virginia Beach and Chesapeake should merge. I think that this is the least controversial option. And maybe Hampton and Newport News. Leave Suffolk and Williamsburg the way that they are. Hampton was a better situation but no more, after Newport News went about the business of dismantling their public housing. Same as what will happen when Norfolk dismantles theirs; whoever left Portsmouth public housing and went over to Norfolk will probably end up back in Portsmouth again. We already know that it is going to happen. Norfolk is only going to get another few thousand people into the city once they start building up where those housing projects exist. Plus they said that they were going to create lakes where the flooding is insufferable. This may create a shift towards Midtown, or Uptown, whatever, with the density, which I am all for but that also creates a situation where Norfolk becomes even less affordable than it is right now. Mergers increase population, but they also amplify problems. This is one of the ways in which cities like Chicago and New York found themselves in the position that they are in (concerning disparities in wealth and poverty). The last thing we need is a mini Compton, East New York, or South Central, in Hampton Roads.
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