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  1. I don't know if the loop will actually go up broadway or if there will be a different bike/ped connection to Phase 1. Here is a conceptual drawing of what the loop might look like on 21st (presumably replacing the parking spots inside of the gate), headed from West End towards the Aertson.
  2. Yeah - agreed. Makes functional sense and isn't terrible on the outside. This design isn't completely finalized, but I can't imagine there will be major changes at this point. My understanding is that if and when the demand is demonstrated for additional housing, it would be between 20th and 21st. Everything is still in flux - likely, there will be some sort of academic and/or administrative building over there, some green space, potentially a transit hub, and changes along 21st to make the "village" feel more connected to campus.
  3. They are spending a ton of money on those buildings. This is being built by a private developer with a land lease from Vandy - there is just no way the numbers would make sense.
  4. I think this is a new rendering of phase 1 of Vanderbilt's grad/prof. housing. Of note from the article, "The university is in the process of finalizing its operating agreement with Lendlease, determining a housing eligibility and priority structure, and finalizing the design of phase 1, which has a target open date of July 2022." Lots more on other capital projects here, too. https://news.vanderbilt.edu/2019/12/11/wente-kopstain-provide-capital-projects-update-at-campus-meeting/?utm_source=myvupreview&utm_medium=myvu_email&utm_campaign=myvupreview-2019-12-11
  5. This “tour” is funded by private sponsorship. I believe they picked cities based on where they can hold outdoor events. I imagine climate played a big role. Nashville’s involved a Christmas concert outside of Bridgestone before the Preds game last night.
  6. The biggest bummer to me is that it is another drive thru. It seemed like there was some potential movement to make Franklin Pike more pedestrian friendly, but a street with all of these drive thru businesses (and many others with significant setbacks and parking in front) is never really going to be pedestrian-friendly. If we could only go the way of Minneapolis...
  7. I think you are absolutely correct, and would add that we would also need a few solid crosstown options. The third biggest problem we will run into (after backlash for removing either a couple of lanes of traffic or street parking and the state re: dedicated lanes) is enforcement. I think the best way to handle this is with cameras (both fixed cameras at intersections and the bus-mounted cameras that they are using in NYC).
  8. On the one hand, I get where they are coming from. Anyone who leaves the building is potentially a lost customer. On the other hand, it drastically increases their sq footage and you would think that more people would come downtown, so I don’t fully get the opposition.
  9. Haha. Totally possible that I’m the only one in the world who feels this way. The hotel is fine To me, but the residential component looks like some Disney experiment gone wrong.
  10. I see your point and I don't really disagree with any of this (you are certainly correct about not selling land), but I also think there are advantages to both. Developers are constrained by ROI and financing that can limit the availability of green space and materials used. I would also argue that the Buckingham development is far uglier than Vandy grad housing, so you never know what you are going to get. But institutions can also wall themselves off and create spaces that are not for the public. This is bad. It seems like Vanderbilt is trying to turn their campus into a giant park and open it up to the public. To the extent that this is what they are doing, I fully support it, even if some of the architecture leaves something to be desired (I actually really like the new buildings on West End). They are also systematically eliminating surface parking and turning much of it into green space, closing roads and building greenways, and are actively partnering with the city to create a less car-dependent Nashville. This would be difficult, if not impossible, for a private developer to pull off at this scale. To me, all of this is more important than more tall glass (or worse, stucco) boxes, which is what many lots seem to be turning into these days (but shout out to 2012 and the Graduate, which are great examples of what private development can do).
  11. No - the walk and roll loop that will be coming (gradually, in pieces, around the edge of campus). The full connection around campus will take years. They'll also be building greenways through the middle of campus (potentially eventually connecting to grad housing).
  12. I understand, but Vandy is literally putting in one mixed use development and may put in a second. There are like 30 bars already within a few blocks, and the graduate housing is apartments and retail being built and operated by a private developer. Outside of building higher, what is the difference? If they succeed in bringing a grocery, I think it would be far more helpful to the neighborhood than more bars.
  13. I mean, my reaction to the architecture was “meh”, but I’m a little surprised by the extent of the hating here. You have a college campus putting forward a 7-10 story mixed use building with 30k sq ft of grocery space. The green space is behind the buildings. You’ll have street activation and a super wide walk/bike path going from this parcel all the way to Hillsboro Village, which is huge. The rest of the land Vandy owns between here and 21st is surface parking or super ugly architecture. Why not extend campus? Noshville was vacant, the redevelopment of the JJ’s building was always in doubt. Buckingham, across the street, may be the ugliest development inside 440 in the last decade. Is this great? No, but it is fine and is not destroying midtown. It also makes perfect sense for Vanderbilt.
  14. A combination of FutureVU, MoveVU, and discussions. I don't think anyone has decided for sure all of what will exist in that space (if so, I'm not aware of it), but I have seen plans with the greenway from main campus extending to the new grad housing. I don't think it is going to look like the traditional architecture from main campus, but I think you will see a reduction of cars across campus (including here), connection of spaces for people (i.e. paths and a walk and roll loop that extends to the grad housing), and connections to transit/potentially shuttles. Also, keep in mind that everything across 21st has been defined as the graduate housing village neighborhood - each part of campus is now marked as a neighborhood. This means that this land will be developed as part of campus. If this is a success and demand exceeds supply, a second phase may come in 5-10 years. This doesn't mean that all of that space will be exclusively related to grad housing, but it is going to be connected to main campus. The fencing along 21st will be coming down, too.
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