12Mouth

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  1. 12Mouth

    West End/Mid Town/Music Row/Vandy Projects

    That is where the Franklin Synergy Bank is. I'm pretty sure the location they are exploring is across the street down Murphy Rd. past the gas station.
  2. 12Mouth

    Nashville Bits and Pieces

    I think you may be correct. The left has not coalesced around Briley and her people are motivated and turning out. This is crazy.
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    Nashville Bits and Pieces

    http://mpw.nashville.gov/walknbike This is the status tracker. There is also a large pdf master document that shows the master plan, but that is not funded.
  4. 12Mouth

    Nashville Bits and Pieces

    Agreed. No way she beats Briley without at least a runoff and she’ll split with Bristol. And if she is one of two candidates in a runoff, you will see a record number show up to vote against her.
  5. 12Mouth

    The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread

    I agree. The key is connectivity and consistency. I love riding the music row lanes, but they have some crazy engineering at wedgewood that would scare the heck out of novice riders. I don’t think we’ll see a significant uptick until we have connected protected lanes or greenways all over the city with no dangerous gaps.
  6. 12Mouth

    The "Nashville UrbanPlanet Solves Transit" Thread

    But I'm assuming you are talking about managed toll lanes on the interstate, correct? You think that they would actually approve managed toll lanes running down urban corridors like West End?
  7. 12Mouth

    The "Nashville UrbanPlanet Solves Transit" Thread

    I don't really disagree with anything you are saying, but this all started with a discussion of how we could do BRT on state owned non-interstates (i.e. West End, Charlotte, Gallatin, Nolensville, etc.). The goal (in my mind) was, how can we keep the state from interfering if we wanted to do dedicated lane BRT on these roads. Having a relatively small fleet of commercial carpool vehicles also using the lanes seems like a fairly minor trade-off and has numerous political and financial wins (I think?). It is way easier to regulate a few companies than the general population, and these fleets will also presumably be automated well before the general population of cars. The drivers are also following company-given driving instructions, so they could only be instructed to get in these lanes if, for instance, their destination was downtown and they were making no turns for a couple of miles. There is no way that we can just start tolling lanes on West End or implementing congestion pricing without the state shutting it down immediately, which was the point of the initial BRT discussion.
  8. 12Mouth

    The "Nashville UrbanPlanet Solves Transit" Thread

    So, as the creator of this crazy idea, I don't think it is completely redundant. Regardless of Uber's future, there is clearly a market demand for shared carpooling which will be even more affordable when we have autonomous vehicles. If we are running buses every 10 minutes, that means that more than 9 out of every 10 minutes, the lane in any given area is completely empty, which is a highly inefficient use of space. There are individuals who want the cheapest option - walk/bike to public transit, take public transit. There are people who are willing to pay to take a rideshare to public transit and get on board. There are others who are willing to pay a bit more to not have to transfer to public transit and will go door to door. If there are multiple passengers in the vehicle (which would be required), they are still potentially taking vehicles off of the road, while subsidizing the bus riders who can now pay even less. Depending on right of way, buses could potentially pull in to their stops, allowing rideshare to go around them.
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    The "Nashville UrbanPlanet Solves Transit" Thread

    Right, which is why I think we need to be creative about applying some political pressure (and give them some good reasons to not change the law). Uber and Lyft have fairly established lobbying arms, taking private money to subsidize transit (or to pay into the Barnes Fund) would be popular, Lyft employs a fairly significant labor force in Nashville (400-600 not including drivers, right?). There is also a conservative argument to be made here, in that we would be giving BRT and the private rideshare market an equal opportunity to compete. Maybe state politicians still wouldn't care...I don't know.
  10. 12Mouth

    The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread

    I don't think anyone is talking about an entire system based on gondolas (at least I hope not). But let's say, for instance, that you wanted to connect Vandy to downtown. 2.5 miles, and you connect to the MC Star, etc. You give the tourists a way of getting to midtown. You get Vandy/St. Thomas to pony up some money for it and Vandy pays for free or discounted rides for students/staff/faculty. I think this would be hugely popular.
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    The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread

    Colby is now talking about gondolas. Thoughts? I don't hate the idea and think that it could actually be politically viable. They'll still run into the gentrification argument, as this is basically the artisanal organic equivalent of transit. https://www.newschannel5.com/news/should-nashville-consider-aerial-trams-to-solve-transit-issues
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    The "Nashville UrbanPlanet Solves Transit" Thread

    So I brought this up in the transit thread, but if you allowed anything besides brt to also use the dedicated lanes, it would not require state approval right now as the law is written. I suggest allowing lyft line/uberpool to pay for use of the lanes if they are carrying multiple passengers. This brings a heavy lobby if the state wants to rewrite the law and allows Nashville to control pickup/dropoff points along major arteries.
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    The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread

    Yeah, and I don't really disagree with the author's idea that there were a sizable amount of people (certainly not all) who voted against transit because they are against growth and change and feel that somehow if we stop planning, the growth and change will just go away. And that density is the problem (but in the same breath, we don't have enough affordable housing). AAHHHHH. Drives me nuts. Yes, of course we are sometimes too generous in giving deals to developers. But we also need a lot more housing stock if we are going to significantly bring down rent prices. I know I'm preaching to the choir here... I don't think this is everyone, and I think that a more modest transit proposal will pass.
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    The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread

    And so presumably, so are sidewalks, which are lanes dedicated to pedestrians. Let's encourage people to walk in the middle of the road instead. While we are at it, why do we make planes land at airports - they should have equal use of our roads!
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    The Transportation and Mass Transit Megathread

    That was actually my first thought when it was clear that this was going to fail. I think the political realities will make transit challenging, but not impossible. I have lots of friends who voted no on both sides of the aisle, all of whom said versions of the same thing: too expensive and not enough incorperation of future technology. I do wonder about starting with specific transit taxes on districts to fund lines that benefit them: Vandy, Belmont, East Nashville, Music Row, 12South, Hillsboro Village, Melrose, Wedgewood Houston, Downtown, Germantown. They would all vote yes. You’d have to do the math on what you would get, but I imagine those same taxes applied only in those areas would generate a good deal of money.