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  1. I read those renderings were presented to Hughes as an idea from the architect...they were not solicited. i believe a retraction was even in Gville Today
  2. oklahoma75

    The West End

    This project, while still very premature, seems like a wonderful fit for downtown. From an outsiders opinion (Oklahoma is way outside!) the existing convention center works just fine for boat shows, dog shows, gun shows, etc. and i suspect that wont change - those types of shows don't really need to be downtown. What needs to be downtown are the ULI meetings, Synnex corps big annual meetings, hosting Michelin, and similar types of conferences that would benefit greatly from being in the heart of downtown. In my opinion, the city consultants that were hired that said downtown didn't need a convention center were absolute right - downtown doesn't need a gazillion sf convention center downtown but it could benefit GREATLY from a smaller more intimate conference center and this wasn't what the consultants expertise. There will always be huge public discourse whenever public/private partnerships are introduced but in my view projects like this can be game changers for communities like Greenville! Look at what Riverplace did for the WestEnd and that was a huge public/private partnership. I truly hope this works out and the conference center and museum end up going along with the hundreds of millions of dollars of mixed use development that will surely follow.
  3. This is awful! Such an important piece of Greenville's history will be lost forever. It has such a wonderful feel the way it is now - and compliments the Reedy River perfectly. It's also open to the public which is fantastic. There was huge PUBLIC and private investment that went into remaking the peace center and now it's being taken away so they can book private events. A great example of what it looks like to screw something up that has helped to make Greenville so great.
  4. AWESOME LOOKING PROJECT!!!! Greenville needs a "place" like this.
  5. I suspect it will be very successful - - it's just not for everyone johnpro318.
  6. It's REALLY cool for those on here who haven't seen it. I took a tour and the views of Falls Park and Main St. are incredible and cannot be duplicated. The pool is just right with awesome cascading waterfall stairs and an infinity edge...also a swim up bar! Dinky isn't really a fair assessment at all! Seems like a pretty good deal for $80/month.
  7. the DRB has grown into an uncontrollable monster. There are A LOT of small town across the country that would LOVE to have this kind of investment in their central business districts so why does the City make it more difficult for people to invest?!?! I understand downtown Greenville was an absolute train wreck not more than 15-20 years ago and now it seems to me they their heads have gotten too big. From what I've learned the DRB was instituted to prevent big purple fallace shaped buildings from being erected downtown - - not for giving a group of people the authority to spend other peoples money and reject approval of a project because a window sill is 4" too low. That's how absurd it is - it's not hyperbole. If I were Trammel Crow (or any other developer) I'd tell the city that we withdraw our plans and will go develop and invest money in another City. I went and sat through a DRB meeting to see how the process works and I encourage everyone who has interest in this topic to do the same. The comments made by the board can be jaw dropping at times. Having design guidelines isn't a bad thing - but they have to be reasonable, clearly defined and not subject to what one board member thinks looks good. City council, the Mayor, and city staff are no better. I have friends back home who ask about Greenville all the time - and I can't brag enough - but as I learn more about the dysfunctional way the City does business I really start to worry about how long Greenville will stay this good!
  8. When is somebody going to push back on the DRB - Design Rejection Board. It’s a good looking building and a great addition to downtown. They seem to reject everything! I heard they turned down the Greenville News building too.
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