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  1. PRINTERS ALLEY Originally the center of the city’s printing industry, first established in the 1830s and thriving by the end of the Civil War, Printer's Alley was home to thirteen publishers and printers, including early offices of the the Nashville Banner and The Tennessean. down toward the rive, Third Avenue (then College Street) was home eight retail furniture stores. Cherry Street (now Fourth Avenue) was lined with saloons, billiard halls, barber shops, bath houses, restaurants and tobacconists. Cherry Street and the Alley behind it (now Printer's Alley)was known in the late nineteenth century as the Men’s Quarter as many gambling parlors and saloons were located here. No respectable woman dared venture into this area if she valued her reputation. The Maxwell House Hotel which had its main entrance across on Cherry Street, provided a separate ladies’ entrance around the corner on Church Street, such was the notorious reputation of the Men's Quarter. Two Men’s Quarter saloon building, survive on Fourth Avenue today: the Climax at 210 Fourth Avenue North (now part of the Dream Hotel) and the Southern Turf building at 212 Fourth Avenue North. With the enactment of Prohibition in 1909 , many businesses some businesses closed, but speakeasies continued to illegally operate new jazz clubs and bars until the repeal of prohibition on December 5, 1933. Bounded by Union Street to the north, Third Avenue to the east, Church Street to the south, and Fourth Avenue to the west, the Printer’s Alley Historic District encompasses fifteen commercial structures dating from 1874 to 1929. These are in order of construction Utopia Hotel (1891), Climax Saloon (1887), Southern Turf Saloon (1895), Ambrose Building (formerly Bruce Building, 1905), and Noel Block Garage (1926)and the U.S. Bank Building (1929) .Architectural styles of these buildings include Italianate, Romanesque Revival, Victorian Romanesque, Queen Anne, neoclassical, and Art Deco. Many cafes, saloons, gambling halls, speakeasies and clubs—including the famed Climax Club—sprang up to cater to the men of Nashville’s print shops as well as judges, lawyers, politicians and other members of the city’s elite. Printer's Alley is narrow and lined with brick facades, cast-iron balconies, and foliage overhanging from window boxes. Many of neon signboards date to the 1940s. Recent attempts to revitalize the district have led to an influx of luxury hotels and other high-end services. Printer’s Alley was added to the National Register of Historic Places in 1977."Printer's Alley is a famous alley in downtown Nashville, Tennessee, between Third and Fourth Avenues, running from Union Street to Commerce Street. The portion of the alley between Union and Church Street is the home of a nightclub district that dates back from the 1940s. It didn’t matter what you were looking for, you could find it in Printer’s Alley (Nashville’s dirty little secret). The city’s politicians and police protected the Alley even after the sale of liquor was outlawed in 1909. Hilary Howse, Nashville’s mayor at the time was asked by reporters if he protected the Alley’s establishments. “Protect them?” he answered. “ I do better than that, I patronize them.” In the 1940s, when Printer's Alley first became well known for its nightclubs and entertainment venues, sale of liquor in businesses for on site consumption was illegal in Nashville and (the state of Tennessee). Restaurants and clubs in Printer's Alley served liquor regardless, claiming it had been "brown bagged" by the patrons. Prominent patron commonly kept their bottles in lockers or on shelves behind their favorite bar for safekeeping. It was generally understood that the police would "look the other way" and the Alley became famou,s even internationally so. Liquor by-the-drink was legalized in restaurants by the new metropolitan government in 1968. Famed Printer's Alley clubs included Jimmy Hyde's Carousel Club, a jazz venue, the Voodo Room, the Rainbow Room and the Black Poodle Lounge...all frequented by artists like Chet Atkins, Floyd Cramer, Boots Randolph, Bob Moore, Brenton Banks, Buddy Harman and Hank Garland. Boots Randolph later purchased the Carousel. In 1998, club proprietor David "Skull" Schulman was murdered by a robber shortly before his club was due to open. The last printer to leave the alley was Ambrose Printing Company in 1977. Printer's Alley was added to the National Register of Historic Place as a historic district in 1982. In the 40s and 50s, entertainers such as Waylon Jennings, Hank Williams and Dottie West could be found performing in the Alley. In the 1970s, superstars Paul McCartney, the Supremes, Hank Williams, Barbara Mandrell and Jimi Hendrix performed on the small stages of the Alley's clubs. In present day Nashville, the printers are long gone, but the ambiance, the flair and the history of the Alley remains.
  2. A saddle is a double loin, rolled and tied and wrapped in fat, then cooked like a roast. Size varies with the animal species and age. I don't know the point of origin, but you might try this possum. Bear is greasy and not my favorite, roast coon is much better, like pork. Both of them you have to trim off every trace of fat as it is nasty tasting. You lard them with bacon. Fried snake and squirrel is mighty fine too. A polvrede is a dish with a peppery sauce.
  3. Nashville has many areas which are steeped in history. This new topic is a place to focus on the places we Nashvillians have loved for all our lives in our memories and our photos.. One very dear place in downtown Nashville is the Arcade which opened to the public in 1903. The Nashville Arcade The city alley between 4th and 5th Avenues North in the late 19th century known as Overton Alley was a downtown rose garden. Inspired by the Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II Arcade in Milan, Italy , construction began in 1902 for the one of the earliest covered shopping malls in North America. The Nashville architectural firm of Thompson, Gibel, and Asmus designed the two-story arcade with entrances at 4th and 5th Avenues North,with identical Palladian facades. The new Arcade was two stories high with a gabled gabled glass roof installed by the Nashville Bridge Company,; the contractor was the Edgefield and Nashville Manufacturing Company; the developer was Daniel Franklin Carter Buntin . On the first level were a variety of shops and art galleries, a mezzanine housed professional offices. At its opening, the Arcade was crowded with over 40,000 attendees which was quite impressive as the entire Davidson County population at the time was only 125,000. Running across the Arcade was another famous Nashville place, Printer's Alley which will be featured in a later post. As a child, my grandfather often took me to the Arcade to buy hot cashew nuts and peanuts from the old shop at the Printer's Alley crossing. Back in the 50s, a man in a Mr. Peanut costume roamed the Arcade giving out samples. For a 9 year old boy this was one of the best places in downtown...except maybe Candyland at 6th and Church! By the 1980s, many of the stores and offices were vacant and the Arcade was in danger of closing but there was sufficient public input, largely through nostalgia for the venerable mall, that it was given a complete renovation. Today it again houses shops and galleries that generate much the same excitement for visitors as it did over a century earlier. Photos: 1. Arcade 1903 2. Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II Arcade in Milan, Italy 3. Arcade 1917 4. Street Entrance to Arcade 4-7. Views 1920s-60s 8. 1970 9. The peanut store at Printer's Alley walkthrough 10. Aerial 1950s. 11 Aerial 1960s 12. Arcade today
  4. Well, I think it might be interesting to all of our newer Nashvillians on the forum to hear a little about the history of the Sulphur Dell site of First Horizon Park . I reviewed this thread back to 2011 and there was next to nothing about the original Sulphur Dell and how Nashville baseball grew up here. Since there seemed to be enough interest in my 7 decades of downtown Nashville post last week and I posted a history of Centennial Park and the Parthenon yesterday (Centennial Park Master Plan thread), I decided to choose Sulphur Dell because it goes back all the way to the founding. I warn that I am not making a history of baseball, but rather the history of the site of the Sounds ballpark as the Sounds at Greer and at their new home has been adequately covered. The site is rich in native American history as the stream, now underground, was the French Salt Lick where Indian settlements were located and had long attracted native hunters long before French and English traders. The Cherokees and Chickasaws were living here when Timothy Demonbreum occupied a cave on the river bluffs where he traded manufactured goods for pelts. James Robertson, leader of the Nashville settlement pioneers found the cabin of Demonbreun when they arrived to claim land in 1779. The area remained woods and farm land as Nashville was established on the high hill just to the north. Just before the Civil war the Tennessee State Capitol rose above the area that was known as Sulphur Springs Bottom named because the natural sulfur spring was in the low lying lands. By the Civil war area the land was being cleared and new streets laid out. Union troops introduced baseball to the city in 1862, when they played in the low-lying area of the occupied city. As early as 1870, it was known as Athletic Park, bordered by what we know as Fourth Avenue, Fifth Avenue and Jackson Street. Nashville has hosted Minor League Baseball teams since the late 19th century. The city's professional baseball history dates back to 1884 with the formation of the Nashville Americans (1885–86) of the original Southern League who played their home games at Athletic Park. The city expanded northwards and the spring and creeks were channeled in brick tunnels to the river. A great deal of fill raised the area several feet. The first photo of the field is from 1908. The early baseball field builtin the late 1800s for decades was oriented to the southeast for the first of several professional teams. This put the sun in the batter's eyes and led to the reorientation of the field to face northeast in 1927 when a steel and concrete facility was built. It was about then that a sportswriter referred to the park as "Sulphur Dell". The name stuck. Sulphur Dell was flooded in 1937 before the TVA system was built to control the Cumberland River. The park was home to the Nashville Vols through the 40s and 50s with full house crowds at home games. There were several peculiarities about the field including a very short 262 foot right field for pro baseball and the left field as it neared the fence was quite inclined. i remember as a kid being taken to Sulphur Dell by my grandfather for a home game of the Nashville Vols. The area of town was pretty seedy by the late 1950s, dominated by the huge natural gas tank and a lot of industrial warehouses. I was more often a visitor to the park for the Ringling Brothers Circus every year or so being held there. I never was much a baseball fan. By the 1960s, the fan attendance had dropped significantly and the last pro game was held in 1965. The park was used for several more non-sports events and was then used as a stock car race track until Sulphur Dell was demolished in 1969. Nashville's baseball saga continued with with the Sounds in Greer Park, but you can follow that part on a separate thread. With the construction of Tennessee First Horizon Park in 2015, Baseball returned to its original site in a great new facility. It is virtually on the same site, as can be seen in the aerial photo of when it was a stock car demolition derby site, and the new field returns to almost the same orientation as the Victorian era field. It has been the catalyst for a fantastic rebuilding transformation of the surrounding area. This year it will host a Christmas event called Glow postseason. When all the work is finished on the Bicentennial Mall next door, it will be a great area of Nashville to visit again and again.
  5. When considering urban space, sometimes in our passion for tall projects, sometimes we forget to consider other parts of the city that are equally important, the urban green spaces. Nashville has a fairly robust parks program and its crown jewel is Centennial Park. As the forum has very kindly appreciated my recent summary of the last seven decades of Nashville, I thought I would give our members, especially the new ones, some history of the park and its most famous structure , the Parthenon. --from the book, The Parks of Nashville: A History of the Board of Parks and Recreation by Leland R. Johnson This park was the site of the 1897 Tennessee Centennial Exposition. It previously had been a farm purchased in 1783 by John Cockrill, the brother-in-law to James Robertson, then became the state fairgrounds after the Civil War and from 1884 to 1895 became a racetrack known as West Side Park. Construction of the buildings for the 1897 Centennial began in 1895 with the laying of the cornerstone for the Parthenon replica on October 8, and a large number of elaborate structures were built to serve the 1.8 million visitors to the Exposition from the President down. When the Exposition closed on October 30, 1897, its leadership called for preservation of the Parthenon replica and the Centennial grounds as a public park, initiating the city park movement in Nashville. Afterward most of the temporary exhibit structures were removed, but the replica of the Parthenon remained. Centennial Park was opened in 1903. Due to the popularity of the Parthenon, as it deteriorated, it was proposed for demolition but residents favored keeping it. Finally, in the 1920s the city and park officials agreed to replace the temporary plaster building with a permanent steel and concrete replica.From 1954 to 1967, the Parthenon was the backdrop for an enormous nativity scene sponsored by Harveys department store. (This has since gone out of business.) The scene was approximately 280 feet (85 m) long, 75 feet (23 m) deep and was flooded with colorful lights. In 1990, a statue of Pallas Athena, designed by Nashville sculptor Alan LeQuire, was added to the art gallery inside the Parthenon. The first several photos are of the 1897 Centennial Exhibition. The main entrance was on West End Avenue as it still is today. The map shows the extensive grounds and many buildings of lath and plaster. The lake, Lake Wataga, is still in existence and many of the rides at the Exhibition were by boat and gondolas. Electric lighting was still fairly inovative and many of the buildings were spectacularly illuminated. It is too bad some of the more architecturally interesting ones like the Venetian bridge were not recreated in permanent materials. Still, the Parthenon, which was the most popular and stately is with us today. The aerial view is from the mid 1940s and shows the extensive formal gardens in front of the Parthenon, which were destroyed to create the wide lawn in the early 1950s. The four photos of the nativity scene show just how spectacular it was against the Parthenon front. I recall, every year the whole family packed into my grandfather's big Desoto sedan and we would drive across town from Inglewood to join the thousands of vehicles circling the Parthenon to see the display. The photos all show the figures were lit in white, but they actually cycled through a new colors...red, blue, green and gold every few minutes. This annual pilgrimage was as important a part of Christmas as the parade, which was then held on Church Street. For many years, the Parthenon housed plaster replicas of the Elgin marbles and had an art museum in the lower level, but to Nashvillians, the outside was the true face of the Athens of the South, as Nashville is alternately known. The art museum is still open and has a very good collection. worth visiting. For many years donations accumulated to have a central figure of the Goddess Athena sculpted. This was accomplished with the splendid statue you see today, which incidentally at the time was the largest indoor figural sculpture in the world. I don't know if that is still the case but it is magnificent. It was not installed without significant controversy from several conservative fundamentalist congregations. I could scarcely contain my laughter when one local pastor was frothing at the mouth about a the wickedness of a pagan idol in a public park, especially his statement that the Parthenon was "no place for a statue of Athena". Excuse me? Nuts. Bu the early 2000s, even the substantive concrete structure was showing its age. A great deal of the sculptures in the pediments had crumbled and fallen off. A massive restoration was accomplished with new lighting which restored the Parthenon to magnificence. But the rest of the park was also in need of renewal, so new master plans were developed which have only partially been accomplished to this day. The streets have been reworked to be more pedestrian friendly, both in unifying the main lawn and making the perimeter around Lake Wataga a pedestrian walk. Cockrill Spring was reopened and the southwest corner of the park rebuilt as it now stand. Also the crumbling wall at the streetsides was replaced. The second phase entails rework of the southeast corner, replacing the old ESa designed 1960s bandshell and restoring more of the waterways. Two remnants , the seashell from the the 1897 Exhibition and the warship bow with the bronze fittings of the heavy cruiser USS Nashville remain and will restored in this phase. Another future improvement is the proposal to create a tunnel over 31st to reconnect the section of Centennial Park on the hill to the northwest. I eagerly await these new phases, but I have heard little concerning them in the past several years. If anyone knows of any work on the park forthcoming soon, please bring us all up to date. If y'all like this kind of historical summary, I will probably do more, as I consider the historical fabric of Nashville as important as the many new structures rising on our skyline. Addendum: Since I retired July 1, I had not gone by the park so I failed to notice that the second phase began in August and will be under construction for about a year. I also did not see that the master Plan has been revised and this Phase Two is somewhat different now. The southeast corner by the funeral home is not in this phase. Only the road entrance from West End is being updated and the bandshell is not being demolished at this time. There are big changes to the Great Lawn access with broad promenades being constructed on either side and a great deal of work is to be done on finishing the pedestrian walk around the lake.The Phase Two work is about thirty million dollars.
  6. The buildings demolished for the L&C tower were nondescript old 1900s or Victorians, brick 4 stories similar to those at Church and 3rd I think. They faced on 4th Avenue. The building next to the L&C where the old offices were has always been 6 stories facing 4th. The expansion you probably are remembering was Third National Bank adding on to the parking garage you see in the photo in the left bottom corner. They added about 4 or 5 floors for their operations center, where my dad was COO in the 70s a few years after they built a new tower on the site of the Maxwell House Hotel (destroyed by fire) which you can see cleared in the photo. Notice also in that photo is the large Cain-Sloan department store I mentioned in my summary. It was built to replace their old store (St. Clouds corner) across Church. When they vacated to the new store, Harvey's bought and expanded into the old store. Neither expansion of these stores was enough to stave off the competition from the new malls in the suburbs. Castner-Knott's across from the new courthouse was the last hold out. I can rustle up more old Nashville photos from the 30s and some of what was in the 6 block demolitions in the 70s...anybody interested in me posting them? Probably some have been posted before but our new members may never have seen them.
  7. I should kick myself for writing a summary of 7 decades and forgetting I had photos to illustrate my narrative. Here are are photos from the 50s showing Capitol Hill areas before the James Robertson Parkway project and the Gulch before the interstates. You can see where 8th Avenue goes straight through. The river pic is the East bank industrial slum where the Titians stadium is now. The photo with the state of TN outline on Capitol Hill is I think about 1959 when neighborhoods were beginning to be be cleared. You can see the density of homes that were demolished for James Robertson Parkway. Then there is a good aerial of the demolished Sam Davis Hotel on the site for the new convention center. The James Robertson Hotel is also seen in this photo, which was fully restored recently as a boutique hotel. The next river shot shows the 1st Avenue replica Fort Nashborough which I think must date from about 1955 as there is no sign of the new Victory Memorial Bridge (1957) construction yet. You can see one of the Victorian buildings on the square just at left before they were demolished to make way for Gay street under the bridges. Also the Woodland Street bridge still is a steel truss span. The street view of 1956 shows 6th Avenue looking towards the Capitol. You can see Harvey's department store at right , the Hermitage Hotel and Knickebocker Theatre at left and the Andrew Jackson Hotel beyond (demolished for TPAC site). The other street scene is Church in the mid 60s looking toward the river. These street views show how active the shopping district was in the 1950s and 60s. Sadly, the art deco Tennessee Building (14 stories) seen at right at 6th & Church, was eventually demolished for crappy apartments in the 80s?. The last photo is the nativity at the Parthenon that Fred Harvey of Harvey's department store put up every year from the mid 50s to the late 60s I think. I think I have approximated the photo times withing a few years... forgive me if I am off by more. Hope this helps y'all envision what the downtown was like when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s.
  8. I do remember before the L&C tower, though your dad was an insider with L&C. My dad worked across 4th Avenue at the Third National Bank and he sometimes took me to his office during demolition and construction back in 1955 &1956. For UP members not familiar with Nashville of that time, here are a couple of aerial pics showing the new L&C tower. On the far right on the color pic, you will see the old L&C tower (14 stories?) just behind the War Memorial building . It is right at the top middle position of the other pic. All of the buildings of that block were demolished and the 30 story tower (now Snodgrass State office building) was eventually constructed. The B&W ones are about 1964 as you can see the cleared area for the James Robertson Parkway and the new City Auditorium under construction ...James Robertson is completed by then. You can see the fairly tall old L&C and the Tennessee Theatre Building on Church as well as what was to be torn down in the 6 blocks on either side of Deaderick Street several years later. *MLBrumby corrected me in the post following this one. I was editing at the time and did not see it. He is absolutely correct that I misidentified the National Life tower as the old L&C tower. Senior mindfart I guess. The L&C offices definitely were in the building next doror to the new tower. Thanks, MLB!
  9. To all the UP Nashville gang, I would like to take a while to congratulate you on all the great viewpoints y'all shared on this forum since I joined , both kudos and gripes. I think I can say that I am probably one the longer time native Nashvillians actively posting. For new Nashvillians, I want to share my point of view just how far this city has come in the last 7 or so decades. Back in the early 50s, Nashville was nasty. Everything was heated by coal so the smog was ever present. None of the TVA dams had been built and any consumer shopping was downtown ...mostly on Church Street. Most everything was old and worn out; there were many very nice structures in spots, but most of them were long overdue for renewal or preservation. A bright spot was the new Victory Memorial bridge over the Cumberland in 1957. If there was one thing central to the 60s, it was vast demolition. Most of it was painful but necessary. The complete demolition of 6 central blocks from the courthouse to War Memorial square....a complete bulldozing to create James Robinson Parkway... urban neighborhoods torn up for the new federal interstate highway loop...the loss of significant historic landmarks like the Maxwell House hotel, and Loews Theater by fires, the historic buildings on the courthouse square (demolished), the Fairgrounds (burned 1965) and baseball games ceased at Sulphur Dell (1967). On the bright side, the L&C tower (1957) and the Nashville Auditorium (1964) were heralds of renewal. At the time the L&C tower was the tallest commercial building in the US outside of Manhattan and Chicago...and it was no glass box either. The architect, Edwin A. Keeble was even a local resident of the city. A huge new Cain-Sloan department store was built at 5th & Church which held a promise of continued vitality of the shopping venues downtown (now Tony G's tower) and L&C Insurance Co. built an even taller new headquarters, opening in 1970 (now Snodgrass State office tower), the architects were SOM. But for all of the promise of renewal, huge areas of the core were still covered in old warehouses and industrial buildings. At least it wasn't as bad as Birmingham at the time. Knoxville and Chattanooga were no prizes then either. Few other mid height buildings were built, mainly the Third National Bank building (20 stories in 1968). The 70s...well, were both bad and good. The new Metropolitan government was the big thing...lots more demolition... creating lots of surface parking lots...the rise of suburban malls which was a death knell for downtown shopping. Sulphur Dell was finally demolished by then (1969). Vanderbilt University entered a new era of expansion on 501 acres acquired by eminent domain, tearing down many square blocks of residences. The 6 square blocks of downtown finally were rebuilt... TPAC....the Doubletree and others on Deadrick, but we lost the Andrew Jackson Hotel to build TPAC. Downtown shopping and theaters continued to decline, despite Metro's efforts to update Church Street. Printer's Alley and the Arcade were seriously dilapidated and live music at the Ryman ended (1974). Nashville built its Thermal Transfer Plant in 1972 by Shelby Street Bridge. This was a stinky function to put in the core, but it modernized the technology of heating and cooling downtown buildings. On the bright side, many Second Avenue vacant buildings were filled with restaurants and shops in that decade and restoration began on the old buildings. We lost another grand old hotel, the Sam Davis in 1984 for the construction of the new convention center and Renaissance Hotel which anchored what was to become the start of the renewal of Lower Broadway. But I distinctly remember that Demonbreum Street in the 80s from Music Row to the river was like a war zone. The Gulch was full of rotting warehouses; the railroad service to the city ended and Union Station was a sad shadow of its past, and from 9th to the bridge was a no-man's land of broken glass from the crowds of homeless there. It was an area not at all safe to go. The honky-tonks on Lower Broad and government was mostly where any activities were downtown. Other areas were likewise in horrible shape. The east bank of the river was an industrial slum. From the railroad bridge to the new interstate crossing under 8th was another blighted area...the slaughterhouse (Neuhoff),...one story warehouses and vacant lots from Jo Johnson to Jefferson Street. In the 80s , Nashville was becoming more diversified with financial, medical and music growth. Importantly, a new airport terminal was built which stimulated the city's growth vastly and a much needed I-440 loop was built (though much fought over in acquiring R.O.W.). I think that by the 90s the boom that Nashville has experienced was well established. Both the Predators and the Titans arrived in the late 90s with the Bridgestone Arena and the Nissan Stadium being built (though original names changed). These venues brought people back to downtown in huge numbers, making possible a surge of renewal that would make Nashville into a destination city today. Metro Center began filling up areas of old river floodplain north of downtown and West End Avenue saw growth from the Broadway split to I-440 . There were lots and lots of new buildings which you can see on the Urban Planet timeline for Nashville. In the late 90s, the East bank was being transformed by the demolition of derelict industrial buildings for the new stadium and the KWV bridge which replaced the Shelby Street Bridge. The Jefferson Street bridge in Germantown was demolished in 1990 to build the present bridge in 1992. In the 2000s, Nashville grew steadily and avoided the worst of the slowdowns of the US economy, primarily because it had a well-diversified city economy. Significant milestones then, I think, were the new Convention Centre (2013), the demolition of the Thermal Transfer Plant (2002) and the rebuilding of the Shelby Street Bridge into a pedestrian bridge. These events facilitated the transformation of this area of the city (now called SOBRO) with the Schermerhorn Symphony Center and the Ascend Amphitheater into a vibrant entertainment district alongside Lower Broadway. The Gulch also began its amazing transformation in the 2000s from derelict warehouses. Once Encore (2008) and Pinnacle (2010)were built, the floodgates of construction were opened wide, I can't possibly describe the growth of Nashville since 2010 as anything other than phenomenal! And this amazing growth is accelerating! I won't list all these new facilities as you only need to review this forum to see all this growth far better than I could possibly describe. I may not have all the exact dates down in my post (and I am sure some of you will quickly correct me), but mainly my purpose in this post has been to share my take on our astounding city. Thanks.
  10. Most of the fire damage was to the 1854 reconstruction by Viollet-le-Duc, He added virtually all of the stained glass, the spire, a lot of gargoyles. If you look at the multitude of redesigns and additions to the cathedral, you have to ask what line is drawn for "historical architectural integrity". Yes it is iconic, but it not a museum piece...it is a living religious church and not necessarily anchored to a specific time. Consider our own icons. The Washington Monument or Jefferson's domed memorial ARE structures that should be frozen in time. But the Capitol or the Whitehouse have been continually added to and expanded in this century alone. Why? Because they are working structures. Likewise Notre Dame is not a memorial monument either. I have endeavored to restore and respect the original cathedral, but connect it to OUR times as has always happened in the past. With the damage to the existing structure, it is not likely that one should replace the combustible timber framing or the lead roofing which is a poisonous material. There was a recent story about submerged oak being found that could replace the timber roof, but IMO they would be so much heavier than the very dry medieval timber that the wall structure could not bear the loading. Also recovering the wood from the lake bottom would be a horrible environmental disaster. This competition is not being considered for actual construction but as an opportunity to present options to the French people and government of what they could build. I think if you look at the other entries, you will see that mine might be most acceptable than most of the others hypothetically. If the French are presented with only the option of an absolute restoration, what is the purpose of architectural design anyway if it is frozen in time?
  11. Baron Akim asks for your vote in an architectural competition for the redesign of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. I have used my many years of experience with period to design a proposal that respects the Gothic heritage of the building, yet reflects 21st century influences. If you would be interested in seeing the entries, go to: https://www.facebook.com/reTHINKINGAC/ To vote for your choice, you merely have to press "like" next to the entry at the Rethinking site. There are some very interesting proposals from European architects, but I would like to show that a Nashville architect can compete in a world competition. Vote for that you like best, but I sincerely would appreciate your consideration of my entry. I have added to my original renderings with added info. Here is what my entry looks like:
  12. No, I don't think they expect a garage per se. Certainly surface parking would be adequate, but when land is as expensive as this, garage parking is probably more cost effective. What I question is that there seem to be fewer parking spaces than apartments and the retail potentially reduces even this number. I mistook Paul's comment concerning the parking entrance location. I thought that he possibly indicated an entrance to a lower deck on the intersection side of the parcel. Obviously it does not, as he arrows the one obvious entrance in the plan. Again obviously then there are no internal ramps, so no additional parking is indicated. What bothers me as an architect is ... how does this work with so little parking, fewer than the apartments.? Where is the retail parking? It was mentioned that some apartments will be rented as short term rentals, so where do those guests park? Or have Metro requirements changed somewhat that I am unaware?
  13. Codes will never allow a vehicular exit or entrance into an intersection...especially one as angled as this one.. Looking more closely at the parking spaces at that end, It would be almost impossible for the cars to get out except by backing all the way to the other end. Who is the architect on this proposal or is there even one yet? The layout looks very amateurish like maybe done by a marketing department of the developer? This must be very preliminary.
  14. Concerning the Muse proposal, I really don't see very much parking even for the apartments, much less any street level retail. Have I missed a ramp down to a lower parking level underground? I also don't think much of the layout of the one plan shown...fairly poor design. For instance the door to the elevator core should not have the required door pull area squarely in a traffic lane and the parking spaces would be hell to get vehicles in and out...much too tight to squeeze in parking spaces. Getting from parking into the retail spaces looks to suck too.
  15. Thanks, Cliff. Actually I was not thinking I asserted a thought about discounting existing historic structures for their era. I had in more mind about incorporating Victorian elements into this specific apartment proposal as being inappropriate. I have no objection to appropriate aspects of design elements in period settings. As evidence of my respect for historic preservation I offer the many projects in my career in which I have rescued and restored historic structures from very early in my career. In fact, my colleges consider me a go-to source for architectural history advice. 48 years ago, I restored the Old Russell County Courthouse c.1868 in Seale, Alabama. While documenting and measuring its abandoned condition, I fell through the attic rafters through a foot of pigeon crap eighteen feet to the floor below. 27 years ago, I had many projects in Columbia , Tennessee around the square. They included replacing the cupola of the courthouse and restoration work inside , the complete rebuilding of the facade of the Curley Furniture building (c.1950) into a replacement of the facade of the original Victorian building once there, the Jack and Jill building c. 1817. More... the County Zoning offices, the Memorial Building and many more around the city. Most of these structures were in such poor condition as to be in danger of collapse at the time. In the 1980s, I designed many period churches...here is one in Maryville TN and a small addition to Christ Church Cathedral on Broadway (far left on pic) for ADA access. I specified stone to match from the original quarry in Crab Orchard which had to be reopened. While plain, this addition used appropriate Gothic detailing like the arched doorway detailing. I am no stranger to architectural preservation or reuse...did you miss my current proposal for rebuilding Notre Dame Cathedral? I just felt this project (and the Rudy house) was a lost cause and any efforts on my part could be better spent elsewhere. Sorry about any lack of clarity in my previous posts.
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