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Yikes, tSlater, sounds like the only thing you left out were the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

Not sure about DeVos, but Sam always did a first class job when renovating old buildings. I would tend to agree with you, the cost overruns must have turned it from a low profit labor of love to one that is severely bleeding red.

The problem I have with park space between buildings is it has a “tower in the park” look, vs a downtown street wall look. Parks are needed for a successful downtown, but not when they become so prevalent that it gives off a suburban feel.

Realizing that it will never happen, this would have been a perfect site for a high rise. No neighbors to complain about blocked sunlight, plenty of room for parking to not eat into the current supply, and easy on/easy off expressway access to not add to downtown traffic.

But are you ok with businesses getting tax breaks or other advantages at the expense of other honest business owners?

Don’t forget that one of the main purposes of this is to offer a large block of rooms convenient to the convention center. When outside groups book conventions, they are always looking for a “convention hotel” to book a large group of rooms. It doesn’t mean that all of the attendants will stay in that hotel, a lot of the overflow will end up in neighboring properties.

Well, I just came back from visiting Allentown last week. Very nice town with quite the rebounding city center. This is the only pic I could find on my phone that I took of Tower 6:

If there was ever a candidate for teardown, this would be mine. Prime location, barren street level presence, and is part of a failed urban renewal project that destroyed that part of downtown. Hopefully they do not just add lipstick to a pig, and actually reactivate that corner.

As someone who rode it back in the 70’s at Herp’s, I remember it being quite small and cramped. Don’t think anyone over the age of 12 would be able to fit in it.

Spectrum will continue to operate out of this location. It is not affected by the work being moved out of state.

Old station on Wealthy is in very bad shape, and would probably need to be leveled an rebuilt.

Seems like there has been a fair amount of bashing other cities on this forum over the years, namely Detroit. People who live in glass houses...

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Maybe it’s just my perception, but it seems like CWD has bitten off a lot more than they can handle. They have done some great work downtown over the years dating back to theie Second Story Properties days, but there was no movement on this or the Fifth Third campus for quite a while now. And the 50 Monroe Place is taking a very long time. Again, not judging them by the quality of their work or what they’ve done for downtown in the past, but their new projects are at best moving at a snail’s pace, and at worst dead in the water.

Wow, very underwhelming.