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About wagwa2001l

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  1. I can't wait for this project to get started... this is such an important project to downtown Winston I would have supported Winston-Salem doing it themselves (would have preferred it actually instead of letting someone else own what should be a city asset for 20 years)... The rendering looks great....
  2. I grew up in Winston and had "nothing" to do... I would have loved some sort of Concert series for teenagers at the time... but there was (and may still well be) something wrong with this crowd... typical teenager stuff is one thing... but this was gettign out of hand... The Drop really stemmed from last year towards the end of the year there were sevearl issues with the Jazz on 4th concert... large groups of teenagers, refusing to disburse after the concert... I was up there one night and watched what could only be described as a mini-riot... This year here comes the drop... I don;t know that moving the location is going to fix the problems... but I also don;t know that cancelling the event will solve the problesm either.. at least the event is (ideally) a safe controlled area for teens to hang out at. The shooting and the assaults have generally not happened at the Drop...
  3. Look up the new Courthouse in Mecklenburg... obviously Forsyth County does not need anything that big... but that is what a Court House is Supposed to look like.... independant, strong, imposing, balanced... looking at the Phillips building my question is... who is the insider pushing this idea and how is he connected... The Phillips building would be an ill suited embarassment of a Court House...
  4. New Developments Bazaar - new multi-purpuse venue... live music and dancing above Downtown Deli... being opened by Owners of Ziggys (which is not closing)... I dfo hope that this turn into a real dance club in downtown winston... enough with the damn Jazz and Blues... not that I have anything against Jazz or Blues... but how about something more lively downtown... I want a place for the ladies to dance. Ohh and the Tap at West End - (formerly West End Taproom) is Open and nicely done... 100% improvement.
  5. I previously Listed this awhile back... though I would relist here... with some updates - any more or other news? Current Projects in downtown Winston-Salem that I am aware of... old Old Salem Foreign Car building - becoming several small shops (Doo Wop shops) - under renovation Holly Place (on Holly Ave.) 9 condos - 7 finished construction - 3 sold Holly Village - 6 Live/Work units - Completed - 5 currently sold. Westend Village Phase 1 - under construction - some townhoses occupies - condos nearing completion Phase 2 - Land Cleared Phase 3 - sign up - no work Downtown Ball Park - permitting and final lanning in progress - project approved. One Vista - land cleared - Under Construction Trader's Row - mixed use Trade Street Project - Under Construction Nissen Building Apartments - Completed - 90%+ occupancy Quizno's moving into one of street level retail spaces Whistling Women - FOR SALE mast General Store - speculative Rumors - no location or confirmation Skippy's (Hotdog Place on 4th) - OPEN 1st Presbyterian Church Expansion - OPEN Marshal Street Town homes - Under Construction Gallery Lofts - Under Construction - Model Unit Open Mellow Muchroom - Open and thriving Hookah Bar - Open Recreation Billiards - Open RJR Tobacco Lounge - Under Renovation 4th & Cherry Restaurant (at 4th and Marshall) - sign in window, no other progress Contempo Casual - Restaurant Renovation - Failed Project... Contempo will remain in business Finnegan's Wake (Irish Pub) - Open Russell Agency - Construction nearing Completion Research Park Expansion Approved by all necessary - no actual construction Southeast Gateway YWCA - Under Construction Gateway Residential Condos - construction has commenced Happy Hill (included here because without this complete and impressive redo no amount of work at the gateway would be worthwhile - no one would buy next to crime central) - Under Construction Tar Branch Towers - Completed Meridian (fine Dining Restaurant) - UOPEN - (And AWESOME) Old Salem - New private residence - nearing Completion Bruegers(sp) Bagels - Under renovartion Goler Manor - Unde construction Goler Enrichment Center - Under Construction THE District - proposed (no othe info on this... but there is a nice picture in DWSP's window Seventh and liberty (not sure but this could be same project as The District) Liberty Place - proposed - I don;t have a lot of info on this one XIA - rencently expanded 2nd street Tavern- new bar constructed with almost no attention - OPEN (located directly beside WEV) - Not downtown but worth mentionng - West End Tap room - renovated - now The Tap - Open
  6. The pop estimates area really hard to say...depends on what you include... Charlotte has more than 8 - 10k downtown though.. I can tell you that from just looking around. It may have 8-10k units downtown... far more people.... 1st ward alone has more than 10k people. downtown winston has more than you would think... its just hard to say without setting boundaries... people have liv3ed downtown for years... I mentione this earlier... that with few exception the downtown housing boom is really adding housing to already inhgabitaed area... just higher end... its not pusing out affordable housing units (except those that are slowly being remodeled and increasing in price as a result)... The HANA area... not huge... (certainly downtown... (broad street to spruce... between 1st street (and bus 40) and 4th street...)... Spring street alone has 21 residential structures... i would guess close to 100 residents... I can think of at least 6 apartment buildings in the area... they just don't get a lot of attention with all the new projects going on...but that doesn;t mean that people don't live there aleady... The old Y is almost always full with owners/tenants... The apartments at broad and 5th are pretty big and also almost always full...
  7. I for one really wish that the NC Legislature really took to NC rail transit and invested heavily... NC is such a great state for this... several large metro areas... beach, mountains... I can imagine a train service more like the ones in eurpoe where you could head down to the station... purcahse a ticket at the window... leave a half hour later and be in charlotte, raleigh, greensboro, winston, wilmington or asheville a little while later... no driving... NC has so much to offer if you take the state as a whole and if there was a convenient way to get from one place to another I really think that this would push NC onto a new level as far as competing for business and industry. The services now are simply not convenient... Amtrac is obviously a P.O.S.... I would just love to see NC do it for itself and not rely on the feds to help... the rail system in the US is terrible... just build a two track system... obviously costly.. but I think the long term payoff would be huge.
  8. The County has submitted an offer of $12.5m and Prim has accepted the offer. (Of course there is still the public comment and actual vote but we know that is a formality at this point. The Project is going forward - Article below if the link continues to work... Baseball in downtown Winston-Salem... land ittle cracktown is getting mowed down. http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellit...s=1037645509099
  9. I am pretty sure the Sawtooth relocation plan was abandonded long ago... From what i know the Saw tooth has instead aquired the building directly behind it on the corner of 2nd Street for expansion. Also... you have to keep in mind where the Sawtooth is... the park adjacent to it is the Winston-Square park... the back side of that park (where the run down water garden is) faces down Holly Ave. If you look at the West End Village project on 4th Street.. the buildings being contructed now (on the corner of 4th and broad are actually the back side of that project... the main building (phase 3 i believe) sits at the end of Holly Ave and faces directly down Holly Ave... back to the end that is now closed off by the Winston Square water garden and back side of the sawtooth. The idea as expressed to me was to make Holly Ave. an "it" street in Winston... and in the process redo the Winston Square park... and open the main entrance to the park as well as the redone sawtooth (through the park) to Holly Ave... if you look down Holly from the WEV side you can really see the idea... Sawtooth may well have been told of this a long time ago and thus decided that its prospects for a grande entrance etc. would be better suited to staying where it is and letting the development come to it... You also have to look at the Arts district... not a lot of cheap real estate around there large enough for the Sawtooth anymore... (not to mention if it moves out of the saw tooth roofed building it would have to change names)
  10. Ther areas near downtown worth saving are saved... Holly Ave. Historic District is largely untouched except for fill in projects... West End... untouched... this one area is not big... only has a few dozen single family homes... some of which have less that 500 sq. rft of interior space.... which are mostly run down... overall your talking about moving out 20 some people and moving replacing the very sparsly developed and very run down and crime infested area with a high density area... In all truth this area is not downtown... its really just outside of it... this is rally winston expanding the downtown area.
  11. As far as new development Happy Hill redo is the closest. abut 1.5 miles from center city. However, ther is still a lot of affocrdable housing in downtown. The diffrence is a few years ago there was no housing for the affluent at all downtown. Now there is. The whold of the baseball project replaces jsut few dozen houses, many of which are abandonded. most of the projects don;t replace affordable housing at all... for insatance West end village - 0 affordable housig units lost - car dealership holly place - open filed traders row - 0 runsoen retail spaces with unused and in come cases condemmed upstairs one park vista - 0 (unused davis dept store) nissen building - 0 (abandonded office building most of the other big condo projects are going in open spaces or unused werhouses... I really don;t see affordable housing being tun out of downtown... only the broadening of the people living there to include affluent as well.
  12. I guess you missed the fact that no one is being forced to sell. There is no government "taking" this property it is all people selling voluntarily. The only people being "forced out" are renters who will have to move as their landlord sold the property. The case you are speaking of, long term owner forced out, dosen't exist. Please get informed before writing. A landlord can kick a renter out in NC for any reason at all at the end of a lease... in the vast majority of situations (month by month) a landlord can end a lease within 10 days. even for a year lease the landlord can legally terminate with 6 weeks notice. For Prim, (who you say dosen't care) to offer even $800 to people in the area who, legally, could be removed within a month without receiving any moving expense.... seems like a very nice thing to do. FOr you to say otherwise is irresponsible and inflamatory. Also, please refrain from personal attacks which are unfounded. The worst thing to do is for everyone to rush to help. If you don't know how to help... please step back and remain in your seat and let those who do know how to help do it.
  13. Progress is Progress.. look at the area now and then look at what it could be... not progress, are you kidding. to some extent who cares how it gets done.. it needs doing. Stadioum proposals are not generally voted down... generally they have passed with a few notable exceptions... charlotte for insatnce... which no has a downtown arena I might add. Greensboro passed despite poorly informed and ver vocal opposition. if it sucks... who cares if it is torn down (with the exceptioin of things with some historical value) there is nothing to be gained by keeping crap for the sake of keeping it. was Dell a bad thing... definetly corporate welfare... largest case ever... very little public input... was it bad? it has done everything it said it would. investors are not the same as those (the cith) who get the tax revenues. For a project like this a private investor has to put his own money in... run his own property's tax value up... then pay those higher taxes. government... helps finances the private investor and then reaps the benefit of the increase in taxes.. private investor's do not get tax revenue.. they pay taxes... If we are so worried about taxes then here is something that will piss you off... why is no part of baptist medical center taxed... (the answer is because its non-profit) is it really non-profit? aside from that.. just because it is a hospital... does that mean that revenues made from and the property that is say a parking deck in the area shouldn't be taxed? It is not curently. So we have a non-profit parking deck sittng on land with a huge tax value that makes money every year and hasn't paid a penny of property tax for years?
  14. I agree with you on that... However, this is really not that situaton... In all... city forks over 26 million.. gets what... 11 from WFU... to develop increase the tax base off that area by a huge amount. The tax breaks don't cover condos or offices... those will all pay taxes... and eventuially all of it will pay taxes in the long term. (those condos retail and offfieces are worth a lot more than the stadium tax wise) I just think that this is not even a typical stadium deal or typical corporate charity project (Dell was definetly one of those).. the project is one where all the numbers say the cith will make $. Even the doomsday assessments show that it will break even. Its not giving $ to anyone if its not costing you anything. Eitherway, In todays age... you either pay or it dosen't get done. Dell has done almost everything it said it would and it is nowhere near the 3 years that was suggested it would take. Of course people complained abut that. Charlotte failed to build for the Hornets... now playing in NO and ended up building anyway just to get a team back. Winston is a city that is coming along.. but now is not the time to stop investing... even in private projects... this city has a lot of years of anti-growth policies to make up for. I graduated school at Wake and definetly kow that many of those who ended up in Winston Jobs left soon after, unhappy with the city for its lack of a young professional group. The sudies support that assessment. And industry will not move or stay where there are no qualified young people to work there. So Winston must now pay the piper for, in my opinion, long running polices that just about ran young people away. (remeber 5 years ago when sidewalk dining was illegal, lol.. look at 4th street now). If this city can get young people and industry again than these projects pay off big time... look 6 years back and try to find one positive article or assessment about winston's economic possibilities... sorry for taxpayes... including myself... but if this city doesn't invest it will die and then all us tax payers can pay the lower rates to live in a old run down city that has low property values and thus low taxes and can't afford its own repairs. whether corporate charity etc. is "right" doesn't matter... you either play (pay) or you fall behind.
  15. As far as the crime it is true it does move elsewhere... however, the idea is to make Winston better by makeing downtowne attractive to young people. As long as that is the goal the movement of crime from downtowne to elsewhere is just one cost associated with the greater good. The big thing that is going on at Green Street and in public housing all accross america is that all the crime is lumped together... crime beget crime begets crime. That lumping of crime is one of the things that needs to be stopped. For instance.. if you look a few months back the journal in an interview with Chief Noris reported that ... in chort prostitutes are victims of drugs... and then our Chief of police went on to say... and there is a known long standing drug operation just blocks from here (it is the article about the John program)... if the drugs are creating the prostitution why is the city allowing a known drug operation to flurish for years... the answer... it was a neighborhood thing... just an expected thing there and the women selling their bodies to buy it and the kids and families affected... I guess they were expendable. That is what I will fight against... neighborhood like these need to be taken down and replaced... i want the residentr helped with the move... but these Green Street area are bad for the city, the surrounding area and expeciall the people that live in them. As far as taking.. this project is not a taking.. it is all private owners selling to private buyers... not one bit of the land is up top be seized at all. I am simply saying that this is the opportunity to do it provately... but if that can't be accomplished then I think a blighted area taking should take place. Put a park there if nothing else. The Open lots are uselsss as long as there is as much crime in that area as there is... building something there as the neighborhood is would be finnacial suicide. If the developer wants to make it a big development why should peoiple try to stop him? if its big it will connect west salem with West End Village and Holly Avenue Neighborhood. It will create a seemless and respectable entry into downtown... it will also go a long way to creating a seemless tranistion to the Gateway projects... the project is in the right place.. The only charity involved is really the city building a new ballpark and possibly eventually parking. The city will own the stadium... a huge downtown venue mind you. Ernie shore is in not great and Wake Forest is going to buy it. This is not an opportunity to be squandered.
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