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  1. I like this one too. Though I'll admit it reminds me of the gentrification episode on south park. "The Lofts at SoDo SoPa" lol.
  2. Big Rapids is not that far. Kind of an extension of the GR area. You can be downtown from BR in 45 mins.
  3. Cedar Point is gods way of apologizing for Ohio.
  4. Keep in mind part of the reason Detroit has a higher ratio of tech workers is because automotive is a very tech heavy industry, it has a built in advantage because of that. Cars are basically smart phones on wheels these days and it takes huge multi functional teams to develop, launch, and maintain those systems. My employer (rhymes with bored) is putting a large tech specific workforce back into the city of Detroit for just that. Detroit has always been a STEM heavy economy (Grand Rapids too for that matter just less so on the tech side of things). Funny side note on cars: All of the computer equipment in cars is very heavy. Cars built today weigh as much, and in some cases more than the land yachts built in the 60s and 70s. Forgive my ignorance but from a tech standpoint what's the difference between having a major research university and a non research university in attracting something like a big tech relo? Is it a matter of actual better programs, or just prestige? It's not as if GVSU doesn't have tech and STEM programs. From what I've seen the bigger hurdle for Grand Rapids would be market size and built environment. All of the bigger companies that have either relocated, or created dual campuses have shared the commonality of going to bigger markets with an emphasis on public transit(sans Nashville). GR doesn't have the local branding, tax friendly environment, and entertainment offerings of a place Nashville. It would seem like the city would make significant strides in its marketability by investing in transit al a light rail etc or something to that affect. The current bus system while extensive and with decent ridership, has truncated weekend schedules, and does not run on holidays. This is probably more of a liability than an asset for a company looking to invest in a new region.
  5. I'm still thinking Acrisure fits this. They are over $4billion in revenue and still growing very fast. From the research I am doing they have done several technology based acquisitions. They are classified as a Fintech(financial technology) company. Still not fully clear what their business model is but it seems to center around online exchanges, and technological interfaces to that end. Do you not think they could be a significant player in growing that workforce locally?
  6. FWIW I enjoyed reading your rant and I agree. It does seem like they focus on the small stuff that hasn't really made an impact. Admittedly I don't enough about how things work at that level to have a meaningful opinion. I would think just about region of even nominal size would be pursuing a plan like this. It seems like the folks in Grand Rapids are pursuing a model that was used by some of the aforementioned cities(Austin, Nashville, SLC etc.). I think GR has some of the needed ingredients already incubating over the last couple of decades. The growth of Grand Valley State has been very impressive in terms of economic impact, and the emergence of the bio med sectors has already transformed the regions economy. I can't remember where, but there was a statistic I saw a few years ago that the amount of the workforce with a bachelors degree or higher had almost doubled since 2000(fastest growth rate in educated workforce nationally). The city has also developed many intangible elements as well that help attract a modern work force in that time. I think the biggest obstacle to attracting a decent sized relocation is a lack of exposure. As you mentioned Grand Rapids is not well known outside of the immediate Great Lakes region. The other issue is that it's still a smaller market than most of those companies are looking to invest in. After you remove the obvious difference in size, the next biggest difference between GR and the cities that have built themselves up into tech hubs is the states they are in. They are all located in states that have very competitive tax structures, and have been very aggressive at pursuing corporate relo's, with a specific focus on tech. Michigan's tax structure while not the worst, is not at all competitive in the same manner. The model the state government has pursued has been to attract manufacturing investment over tech anyway. I would think this an obstacle for the goals in GR. If Michigan did get aggressive on tech my assumption is that it would be more aggressive at getting this investment in the Detroit area over GR. Grand Rapids does have access to some pretty deep pockets, it would almost entirely be up to the ambitions of regional leaders to make something big happen. Ultimately I think something more organic/homegrown(al a Acrisure) is the most likely scenario for these goals to come to fruition.
  7. I’d think accrisure could help move the statistics on this front. They seem to have a more tech based strategy going forward. I would think the area would need one or two more big players.
  8. Agreed! That wasn't us lol. We don't narc, we can't help that this is an open forum with lurkers.
  9. Bowls are made or discontinued every year. All it takes is a corporate sponsor willing to put their name on it. I'm not saying its imminent, but certainly wouldn't be impossible with the right venue/ commitment either.
  10. At it's current division 2 level no. Current regional interest is little more what a high school game would be. Give them a bigger stage with bigger brands and yes I do think you'd get more regional interest/alumni/and community buy in as every other team does. University of Hawaii is the smallest stadium in FBS that I'm aware of with about 6,000 seats. Though I don't know if it would make financial sense for GVSU to cut their ability to sell tickets in half. This would only work if the venue stays at about 12K+. You can't be sure of this at all. You're not considering other variables that come with moving up. Yes if they were in a mid major conference playing a top tier school would be at that school that's how it works. That's still HUGE recruiting exposure on a big stage. As for home games, they would still be playing with other D1 schools that ARE nationally known. Going up in division also comes with a leveling up at the recruiting level. You would be naive to think that were they to jump up to an FBS level, they would not have an increase in the resources and recruiting strategy that comes at that level. Over the last 10 years several schools have made the jump to FBS and made bowl games. Some after having no football program at all. Especially now with the new NIL rules. All it takes is a few deep pocketed boosters and a school can build a program and compete just fine. Grand Rapids already has more than a few folks with deep pockets. Actually more than many markets with already well established schools. I wouldn't be so quick to write something like this off.
  11. From the standpoint that it's a national sport with nationally televised games I think it would be an asset. Especially if the sports commission created a bowl game with a local sponsor. It could bring pretty decent exposure to the area. Outside of that yes, it's a very popular sport. You already have a population base hungry for a piece of that pie vs soccer which is still somewhat of an olympic sport in our culture. Ultimately you're not wrong it's more of a vanity wish than truly necessary. I'd love to see night shots of downtown GR on ESPN lol. If you wanted something to be "game changer" bringing Grand Valley onto that stage would be more impactful than bringing in a lower tier soccer league in a small stadium.
  12. Curious to know how folks on here feel about such a niche venue? How many does downtown need? I know soccer is gaining momentum, but still a 7k seat soccer stadium has a very limited scope of use I’d imagine. Not “game changer” IMO . It’s too small to be impactful for football, and you have three other larger venues for concerts(assuming amphitheater gets built) Seems like a lot of $ for redundant space on what could be used for other premium means in the future. I’d be much more excited if they put their energy behind something that was multipurpose. Dan Devos has long been a proponent of W Michigan sports. I wonder why he doesn’t put that energy behind bringing a D1/FBS football program on the west side. Seems it could give the city much better exposure in the long run.
  13. Lubbers stadium is listed at a capacity of 10,400 seats so those attendance numbers already put them over 100% capacity on average. They are already beating some FBS schools in attendance. Give them a bigger venue on a bigger stage I'm pretty confident W. Michigan would show up in support.
  14. Lynn Stadium in Louisville (USL) opened in 2020 for $65 million (15,000 capacity)
  15. There are already FBS teams that don't meet that 15k average threshold. I don't know what GVSU averages at their games now but my impression is they are already close to that or perhaps above it. A stadium downtown and a move to D1, especially FBS would garner a lot more local support I'd wager. Folks in West Michigan are hungry for a local team with a more national presence. I would think an FBS team more than even a big 4 pro franchise would have the best odds of succeeding in Grand Rapids. Especially with the new NIL rules and the community being able to help fund it. Heck with the right venue they could even create a locally played bowl game.
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