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  1. Just to pile on, those renderings are complete garbage. MC Escher couldn't have drawn a more spatially implausible space. It literally hurts my eyes to look at. And this is the winning proposal? How are Nashville's standards so shamefully low? It's so damn cheesy. Design by committee crap. "Yeah, and put a big Nashville sign on it. And then a cantilevered doodad. And some snowflake decals!" It reminds me of the Simpsons episode when Homer got to design a car for his brother's car company and the resulting monstrosity bankrupted him. I really can't express how dismal this whole thing is.


    I don't really like having a museum at that location, either. There are too many big box "destination" places, and not enough places where the city can grow more organically and support more than tourists and office workers. Metro needs to back the hell out of the development process. What a mess.

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  2. Is this ever gets done which do you guys believe will be Dean's bigger accomplishment, the MCC or the BRT?

    I'm on record as no great fan of the MCC, but for Nashville's sake I hope it's a huge success. Having said that, I think putting Nashville on a path towards a legit mass transit system is a tremendous accomplishment, especially projecting out to future generations. Getting the ball rolling on mass transit is long overdue and while BRT may not be as "sexy" as light rail, it's functionally the same thing. And it's just the beginning of a potentially more robust and effective system. Kudos to Dean for his ambition, vision and ability to make things happen.

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  3. My sense, and I could be wrong, is that "functionally obsolete" means no longer state of the art, or with all the latest features, open floor plans, fung shui, floor to celing windows, whatever. I don't get the sense that there's is anything structurally unsound or terminally ill about the building, but rather it needs to be updated with modern HVAC, energy efficient windows, insulation, etc. Which if that's the case, it would be a crime to tear it down.


    And I could also be wrong about this, but weren't the victorians on the other side of the capitol where the war memorial is and maybe the archives and court buildings are? Regardless, whatever was on the east side of the capitol probably wouldn't qualify under anyone's definitiion of a slum in this day and age.   

  4. How does a building built half a century ago, or half a millenium ago for that matter, become "functionally obsolete"? Does it have walls? Floors? Ceilings? Doors? Windows? A roof? Yes to all those. OK, then it still works. WTF? Just sell the bulding and let a private developer gut it and turn it into apartments. I really despise seeing perfectly good buildings come down. Especially when there's nothing imediately in the pipeline to take its place. And some numbnuts in the comments section said it would be nice if the capitol were surrounded by greenspace. Has he seen the capitol?

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  5. <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="UTgrad09" data-cid="1249311" data-time="1356645330"><p>

    Nice meeting with you, Nashvillain. I haven't done a walk like that in quite a while. I think it froze my brain, though. The restaurant I was trying to think of was Zola. The chef from Zola started Etch (in the base of Encore).<br />

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    <a href='http://etchrestaurant.com/'>http://etchrestaurant.com/</a></p></blockquote>

    It was nice meeting you too and a nice walk on a cold day. Good luck in the new year. That goes for everyone else on the forum as well.

  6. I like the "spirit" of the project, but I don't like the side that fronts 21st. It doesn't really fit in with the other commercial buildings, and IMO doesn't really contrast well either. It's sort of funny to me how every other side of this building looks flat or at least symmetrical, while this side just looks like a jumble to me.

    Also not a fan of the colors. It just doesn't sit there and look like....Hillsboro Village. I think this project -- as is -- would look better in either 12th South or East Nashville. JMO.

    Yea, it unfortunately reminds me of the Velocity in the Gulch. Both look like a hodgepodge of different buildings mashed together. This one is definitely the better of the two by a long shot, though.  

  7. Sounds like the Music City Center discussion all over again. Concrete walls, no street activation, blah, blah, blah....

    And your point is...? Street activation and the pedestrian experience aren't important? We can't have an urban design disucssion on an UrbanPlanet discussion forum? Endless whining about Nashville's fear of height and lack of supertalls is fascinating but criticizing buildings for their aesthetics, design and relationship/contribution to the built environment is out of bounds? I understand that you and I don't approach the city in the same way. Our concerns don't really align, etc. But I don't usually come on the board just to criticize your point of view as I'm mature enough to handle that you have one that's different from mine. Maybe you could grow up and extend me the same courtesy.

  8. I'm more concerned with what this development will do for the street level. Unfortunately it's another car-oriented development in an area which really needs to begin transitioning away from that development pattern. I wish Nashville had some big time developers who weren't such stodgy conservatives stuck in a late 20th c mindset. Looks like west end will get a suburban strip mall driveway and t.he other three streets will get blank walls.

  9. I guess they have a decent track record with streets cape improvements on Church and Deaderick streets. This project is on a much more massive scale. I hope they don't scrimp on the small stuff that will make the whole project come together and improve life for pedestrians as the whole point is to have more people out of their cars and on their feet.

  10. In general, it seems like developers move en mass from one extreme to the other. Right now everyone is building apartments because they're commanding high prices, and no one is building condos. If history is any indication, I'm sure there will be an over supply of apartments at some time in the near future and an under supply of condos because of the development patterns over the last two years. I expect someone is going to announce a large condo project in the core since the supply is running very low and the overall real estate market in Nashville is definitely on the upswing. Another possibility would be for Hensler or TG to convert their apartment developments into condos instead of apartments. I can only imagine the condo market will be even stronger in two years when they would start selling.

    It's also worth remembering that developers are beholden to banks to secure financing and banks are pretty tight with the purse strings right now. Condo projects may seem a little risky and probably require significant presales. It may be awhile before we see any mega projects like the mid 2000s. Maybe a strong run of successful smaller scale buildings would get things rolling.

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