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  1. There was originally to be a Phase III if I recall, an office tower to the South. However, this was more of a dream of the architect than the actual committee. So, while the plans may still be out there, they were never officially part of the final plan. As it stands, Phase I and II were the only planned pieces. I think...
  2. That is not the med school. The med school with be the building on the West end of the development.
  3. So what. If it means more money, investment, and jobs downtown - I could care less that there are selfish motivations. Actually, it is good, it means that the cash will keep flowing. Better than a one time gift that bankrupts the benefactor. These types of self serving gifts are the ones that grow entire industries, not single buildings. I would argue in most cases, yes, these things are typically a burden. However, I would also argue that in GR the arena at least has been a huge success for a single reason. GR was terribly underserved. Up to the time the arena was built, there was not a single 4,000 seat or larger venue in the region - a region of one million plus. But, I can see where cities with nothing unique to offer and stagnant populations would have problems squeezing value out of these investments. The very fact that the Van Andel makes the top ten arena's list every single year is testament to the fact that it is working here. Convention centers are another animal - luckily our center was supported by a lot of private money, removing some of the community and state burden. Will it ever make money, no. Convention centers are a success if they break even. Their real goal is to create visibility and bring people to the region which can develop intangible benefits such as future vacations or relocations - hard to measure. Plus the fact that well, you need a convention center and having a crappy one screams that you have a dumpy, old, stagnant, town.
  4. Actually GR rates very high when it comes to the possiblity of a sports team. The last list that the Sporting News put together had us in the top three for the most likely and most viable markets. We are the most prosperous market without a team, and within the all important 60 minute travel time circle, there are around 2.5 million people - way more than enough. It could happen, the problem is, no one around here believes that...
  5. hahaha - just going to say that. The good old tape measure game. I still stand by my early statements that we need to give this building chance.
  6. I like the plan. As someone that lives by the zoo, and one that visits a few times a year I would love to see some of these changes. It is good to see that the zoo has recovered from the drama of the Meijer offer and they have some good ideas for both the zoo and preservation of park space. The worst part about going to the zoo right now is the feeling that there could be so much more. I am very happy to see that this has not been lost to the leadership of the zoo. I think that the change of management has been very good.
  7. I think it will offer a unique contrast to the surrounding structures. Enough to make it stick out. The old Art Museum was not unique, because anything could have occupied that space. This will give it some character in relation to the rest of the city. Plus, Art Museums as pieces or art themselves are supposed to push the boundaries.
  8. It is possible, and would make a lot of sense. They might as well work them together, to both their benefit. VAI could use a decent flow of talent and MSU is actually a highly rated sciences school without an outlet. Perfect.
  9. Exactly. I think that there was a lot of underground and utility work that had to be done. I also think that this will be a good fit for the area when complete... at least I hope so.
  10. If I recall the original VAI plan for phase III was for an attached office tower to the South of the building. Early speculation was for a decent sized tower - but I think as the project advanced phase III itself was scrapped. I believe it was something that the architect was pushing (for more visibility) than anything. However, this would be an ideal location for the medical school,
  11. There are also all sorts of equipment and wiring tunnels all over. Mostly fiber and electric but also some heating from the old steam plant. Trust me, there is a labryinth under the city from Spectrum all the way to St Mary's.
  12. Square foot wise it may not be a huge upgrade - but it should have more usable display space. The old Art Museum was just not built for that purpose and does not really lend its interior to the need. The exterior fits well, but that is about it. As much as people hate this project - I kind of like it.
  13. superNOVA

    Traverse City

    If you ask me it is growing too fast. Northern Michigan is losing a lot of its old character.
  14. Actually he is. He was probably one of my best professors when I was at GVSU. Well at least one of the only ones with real world experience.
  15. I just like the door on the Towers building that is now three storeys off the ground. You can see it when coming West on 96 through downtown. Hope they have it sealed.
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