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  1. psycuda your valuable input will be missed. Ah, you are going to the private sector, hopefully the big bucks will follow. Best of luck and come visit us sometime even if it has to be via the cyber world. Have you bought that new coat yet?
  2. I think it has Glenn, but nothing wrong w/posting it again. My Gaines group was looking into these Greenwise stores as a possible tenant on Gaines since Publix stated that they didn't want to do a regular store on Gaines b/c it would pull too much away from their Ocala Road store. However in the next 2 or 3 years they are only launching Greenwise stores in the South FL and Central FL districts. We of course are in the North FL district which is located in Jax.
  3. Good news! I was dreading the counting of all those loose pennies I've saved up in a couple of jars in my junk cabinet. Have you even looked at how bad it's doing against the Euro and the Pound? I think its been like that for several years and one of the reasons I've been avoiding travelling to Europe, but next summer I'm going anyway.
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    psycuda I'm not sure what the application fees are in North FL, but for a project that size and w/that many reviews would have cost the developer tons of money in application fees alone where I use to work. Another question for you psycuda: how is Pinnacle getting around the great obstacle of a two-lane Mahan? I know the whole project isn't going to happen at once, but even w/just the Mall section looks like they'd have trouble w/concurrency from the potential traffic generated?? I'd think the road as it is must be at capacity or nearly there now? From what I understand, the Mall portion wants to be built before Mahan is widened? Is my understanding correct? And if so, how do they propose handling the heavy traffic count it will generate? I assume I-10 will be used to absorb most of those?
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    Well we know this much, far from rumor I'd say, but less than absolute. I still am not sure how he is going to accomplish this project w/the road the way it is. If a lifestyle center does not arrive in Tally in this form, one will on the near horizon and Tally Mall should be preparing.
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    I've always wished for a sarcasm icon on here josefk. GG your avatars just keep getting more frightening.
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    I think he was talkin' about me GG, but I've asked all those questions before in the past and I just consolidated them into one post today. sdarby can respond by just answering a few questions at time or maybe he's a fast thinker like me and can do it all at once. No sweat and did not mean to overwhelm if that occurred.
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    Thanks for joining us sdarby! I have always been wondering this, if Dillard's at Tally Mall is closing in the winter of '08 and the new Dillard's out at Pinnacle isn't opening until at least '09, what is happening to those folks employed at your Dillard's? Are they giving them jobs at Gov. Sq. or are they laying them all off. I realize that's more of a Dillard's question, but I bet you know something. Speaking of Pinnacle, we all know it's coming and they will try and attract high-end stores and then we have Gov. Sq. too. The size of Tally's metro really won't support 3 fashion malls, so I think it would be best if Tally Mall tried to change their function to more of an entertainment mall. I go there now mainly for the movies and I also enjoy going to Barnes and Nobles which I visit more for entertainment than shopping. Has management at Tally Mall considered this change in function? More restaurants and entertainment functions? Have you explored the possibility of luring Dave and Buster's to the Dillard's location? Have you guys explored other retailers that are expanding in the South such as: hhgregg and Steve and Barry's? Yeah I know they won't completely fill the function or space of Dillard's, but could you spilt Dillard's into two parcels and of course there's still the Sound Advice empty space next-door. Good job on getting a Panera! And finally, is there a weight or age limit on that bungy thing in the center court?
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    What I think is whacky about Zings is that they are usually one or two lines, but then the bloggers will respond to those short zings w/ two or three paragraphs and often times Zings get many if not the most blog comments in a day.
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    That's what I thought too when we first walked by it. But on our return, I noticed a lady that weighs much more than either of us, bouncing around on it. On your Letter to the Editor I hope you requested them NOT to publish your email addy. If you don't tell them that, they'll publish it along w/your name and you'll get some nasty-grams in your email.
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    Some rambling thoughts of mine on Tally Mall: I was there yesterday afternoon and shopped the Mall from one end to the other, something I've not done in a long long time. Dillard's doesn't have that much on sale yet. Signs for Panera are up. Not that big of a change from Parisians to Belk's. They do have a bigger housewares section on the second floor. I want to do the bungee type jump thing in the center of the mall. Anyone wanna do it w/me? On this Sunday, the mall wasn't too crowded, but it wasn't dead either. There were all types of folks shopping and walking around. I am not sure where the folks blogging over at the Democrat get their information about Tally Mall being a rough scary place, but I've never experienced it like that. I mean if you go to the movies on a Fri or Sat night, of course it's going to be crowded w/teens and yes you will think they are odd and dressed inappropriately, but guess what, those blogger's parents and elders probably thought the same thing about them when they were teens in their wild 80's outfits. If you go to AMC when a big teen movie is being released, the place will be over run w/teens. If you go on a night when a big hip-hop movie is being released, it will be over run w/the hip-hop crowd. If you go on the release weekend of a movie that Oprah highly recommends, the place will be loaded w/middle-age and old ladies. It's just common sense. As an avid movie-goer, rarely do I see a movie on Fri or Sat nights b/c it's too crowded and noisy and tickets are cheaper during the week. Funny how all the comments on the Democrat blog I read talk about safety issues at Tally Mall and how they prefer Gov. Sq. Hasn't Gov. Sq. been shut down in the past b/c of potential riot problems at least once? I know when I lived here as a student back in the 80's, a girl was forced from the parking lot of Gov. Sq. kidnapped, tortured and killed. I'm not dogging Gov. Sq., just saying every mall has its troubles. Everyone in my former hometown of Boca Raton knows the most crime in the city takes place at their tony mall: Town Centre. The Democrat bloggers on any subject make me embarrassed to live in Tally. It's all knee-jerk opinions and never fact. I've noticed if a fact question is asked, it's rarely answered w/fact. I wish they would put those comments BELOW the stories and not BESIDE them so my eyes would not wonder over and read them. I can't help that, I do love a train-wreck, but I always regret it afterwards. Aerobird, you are correct, Jackson County, FL and Seminole County, GA are both in the Dothan, AL market area. However I'm sure we get many of their shoppers b/c we have stores Dothan does not. Countryside Mall is now owned by Westfield and is called Westfield Countryside Mall. Clearwater Mall was pretty much torn down and redone in the outdoor fashion you see now. That was a great and successful revamping of a dead/dying mall IMHO. bighardrivesrule I am glad someone else has seen Montgomery Mall in the past and in the present. Like me, you know first-hand how devastating the loss of a big mall can be in a metro about our size. It kills retail life all around it. I definitely would never want that to happen here w/Tally Mall. TJ I'd be in favor for this Feldman/COT/County partnership if the funds were allocated as you proposed above. Also Tally Mall needs to change its function to survive better and not directly compete w/Gov. Sq. and the new Pinnacle thus becoming more of an entertainment center. I learned a few inside tidbits about this proposal the other day. One, Rackleff rejected the idea w/out even knowing any facts about the proposal. Rejection is fine by a commissioner as long as he makes an educated well informed decision. I don't want my commissioner (District 5 here) to make knee jerk uninformed decisions on any subject. COT has stated that if Feldman can get the County to go along w/it, they will too. Of course all the details must be worked out. Desloge, Daily and Sauls seem open to exploring the proposal at the is time and there was not read yet on DePuy.
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    Beukeboom thanks for the interesting information on Jackson and MS's blue laws. I always wondered about Jackson's retail flight to the north and you explained it very well. I get a good chuckle out of Blue Laws these days having lived in AL where they were predominant. The main reason for Country Clubs(including the one we belonged to) in AL was not entirely for the golf course or the big pool or even the tennis courts, no in our area it was for the drinking folks could do on Sunday. I don't believe that Tally's suburban flight has even approached the levels of flight in Jackson or Montgomery (a town similar to Jackson and I am more familiar.) I live in an area of downtown/midtown Tally that would not really even exist to the extent it does in MGM and probably not in Jackson and mine is just one of numerous neighborhoods like this in the core of Tally. The large universities keep inner-Tally very much alive and demographically different that those cores of MGM and Jackson. MGM literally has miles of abandoned retail corridors b/c of white flight. I believe for years the populations of Hinds and Montgomery Counties (the core counties) have either had negative growth or just held their own while the surrounding counties exploded in growth. Not really the case here either w/the exception of Wakulla County exploding, our core county Leon continues to grow and until recently our adjacent counties Gadsden and Jefferson lost people. Just as of the last 5 years or so have these counties began to grow which I think is a good thing. All counties in the MSA/region growing is healthy for us all. By restrictions of the county, I assume you mean zoning/comp plan policies which I think are doing exactly what they need to be doing. Compared to AL or MS, FL's policies are much greater on the state level and then we add Leon County's policies on top of them. No one is denying the flight to Midway or Wakulla County and parts of that I see as a natural progression as our Metro matures and grows. Midway's growth can be attributed to two things: 1.) like you stated a faster permitting process and cheaper land and 2) most important an I-10 interchange. I've always wondered why Quincy doesn't capitalize on their exit (SR 267) more. I don't think you'd ever see something like Pinnacle move out to Midway in our lifetimes b/c the income demographics just aren't there. In Leon County, more people still live in the City as opposed to the unincorporated county. Also whenever my AL relatives visit me here in Tally, all of them always seem to comment on how the core of Tally (those parts w/in Cap Circle) seems to be growing and vibrant when they compare it to MGM or even B'ham. Now things maybe a tad different in Jackson than those two cities, but if I recall correctly, not by much. Now that you've brought it up, I wonder how consolidation would effect growth patterns? Would they pretty much stay the same or would they change? Anyway, that's my opinion and yours as you've stated is different, no big deal. That's what we are here for, to exchange ideas and I enjoy reading those that are different than mine. One thing about this situation, we are both looking at it from different angles. I'm here on the inside looking out and you are there on the outside looking in (meaning where we live and do business.) Surely that's got to skew our opinions somewhat.
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    josefk I'm not trying to cry doomsday here and I certainly don't want Tally Mall and the surrounding area to die. However, your thoughts are exactly what folks in Montgomery were banking on and so far that's not occurred. Montgomery is a city just a tad bigger than us, but their metro is about the same size. The dead mall was at the heavily travelled intersection of US 231 (which handles much more traffic than US 27) and Southern Blvd one of MGM's busiest roads. Southern Blvd connects to not one but two interstates (85 and 65.) Also SE MGM is one of the fastest growing areas of residential development in their city and behind that mall are their more upscale in town neighborhoods. Once the departments stores fled to the new outdoor mall and the surrounding big box retail stores and restaurants followed them and now the corridor is a ghost town. I just don't want what happened there to happen here. Now is this proposal the correct mechanism for that not to happen here? I sure don't know w/out tons more details. I'm like you, just talking out loud here, not certain exactly how I feel about this. One way this retail flight can be stopped or slowed by our city is not to allow tons of other retail to surround Pinnacle. I'm not sure if that can be accomplished, however the 2 lanes of Mahan may help play a hand in that for awhile. Also MGM has a lot more white flight w/ big suburban shopping centers popping up in their adjacent counties including such names as Kohl's and Bass Pro. Not as much of a problem here yet, but it is starting to happen here w/the massive flight to Wakulla. Even if the mall sat dead for only 5 years, the impacts on Monroe would be great. It might take them that long just to get funding and permits. I wonder if Feldman will still follow through w/their $30 million to renovate if this proposal does not pass? I mean that's a lot of money and should go far just by itself. TJ, can you find out more info for us? I know you've got the connections!
  14. Good to know. My world crashes w/out favorite's links, speed dialing and digital/DVR cable.
  15. Question: Has COT's webpage been down for the past few days or is my link just broken?
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    Like you TJ, I'd like to know more about this proposal (specifics) and Feldman's plans for upgrading the mall. I too was wondering if some of these incentives would be used for enhancements on the surrounding infrastructure. If you find out anymore details from your buds at COT, please let us know b/c I'd be greatly interested. Your bud Tally is right, if that mall dies, that whole North Monroe corridor will fall apart especially w/Pinnacle coming in. Tally Mall needs to change its focus like we've talked about in the past and become more of an entertainment and dinning center and let Pinnacle and the Disco Mall have the high-end stores. If you ever want to know what happens when a mall dies just drive north on US 231 to where it runs into the bypass around Montgomery, AL. Montgomery got a new outdoor lifestyle center about 3 years ago that that killed the Montgomery Mall (they do have another enclosed mall) and the whole corridor of the Southern Blvd that the dead mall is on, is now dead too. Things like Old Navy, Bed Bath and Beyond have all left the corrior and sadly the whole corridor now is pretty much a blighted area. If the Feldman renovations are good and help make the mall competitive by altering its function and if the incentives help w/the surrounding infrastructure, then it could be the thing to do, notice I said COULD. Only an idiot would have a knee-jerk rejection of the entire proposal w/out doing more research on the proposal and plans. Rejecting it on merit is fine, but I want a commissioner that looks intelligently into something and researches and discusses all viewpoints before publicly announcing his rejection of it. Should this proposal pass, am I going to have to deal w/Silly Ole Bob and his band of granola minions picketing this site too? The question is do we pay now, or do we pay later? And that question I can't answer w/out all the details.
  17. If I remember correctly, I think the current NW YMCA property as well as that Country/Western shop and maybe a few more parcels are part of the Wally-mart plan. I think they plan to use some of those parcels for mosquito breeding...I mean holding ponds.
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    ^You are correct. I think mentioning the areas median age of the mid-twenties (what is it officially now...28?) helps prove your point. I think I'll give the owners of Tally Mall a heads up as to Dave and Buster's. Who owns/manages it again? Corey Feldman's relatives?
  19. Is South Blvd pretty much dead from the Troy Hwy all the way to 65 and beyond? Even around Baptist? So sad if it is. My uncle ages ago was the State Senator for years from Selma and my Aunt and Uncle spent most of the session in the Diplomat Hotel on South Blvd. I'd get to go every year to be his page and get to spent the week w/them at the motel. We'd eat at the restaurant on premises and sometimes get room service for breakfast. I thought I was living the life of a movie star that week.
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    Good idea guys about the D&B at the Dillard's location. We should at least fire off a quick email telling their corporate about the upcoming empty space and the 60K students that live in this town. I doubt they are even aware of this option. I mean it couldn't hurt. Can someone provide me w/this link and I'll fire off a quick email. I hope some of you others will do the same. Thanks.
  21. Oh cool, now I'll have to do another "ride-by" and check out those working fountains...then swing by the cleaned-up Ft. Knox Bldg. I really like the landscaping too. Nice to see something different in town besides the standard Crappy Myrtles. In the first picture you'll notice those purple looking plants to left, they are called Ti plants or Hawaiian Ti plants. When our first frost or even near frost comes, they are toast. They even struggle to survive winters in Central FL and are really only suited for SFL and Hawaiian winters.
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