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  1. I have mixed views. The building that's being torn down is bad. I think that it was an '80s re-do of an older building; I vaguely remember when it was built. However, are we sure that there is no hotel room bubble downtown? The typical drivers of hotel room demand (I'd guess)-- tourist and business events and office space-- don't seem to be growing as quickly as the number of hotel rooms. The 2010s architectural style will be terribly dated in 20 years, too. It'd be better to just copy older and timeless styles of architecture, such as neo-Renaissance, colonial or the like.
  2. It's the addition of multiple competitors to downtown businesses, all within a close range. If we want a vibrant downtown, we need to steer commercial development there, rather than letting people build whatever/whenever in suburbia. McAlister Square was pretty close to downtown and people had that same mindset then. Haywood Mall was pretty close to McAlister Square and people had that mindset then (just look at the news articles with McAlister's reaction to Haywood's opening). Some things apparently never change.
  3. The Augusta Road Harris Teeter will be much closer than the downtown Publix, actually. I don't like navigating down Augusta in those narrow lanes and making a left turn. That's the mentality that led to the rise of Haywood and Laurens Roads and South Pleasantburg Drive and the original demise of downtown. If we want a great downtown, we shouldn't just have a "build whatever you want, wherever you want" vision; the outcome with that approach could be the Greenville of the 1980s, with sprawl and a ghetto downtown.
  4. I'm still not seeing why it's necessary; I'd rather go to the downtown Publix than deal with micro-laned and crowded Augusta Road.
  5. Thanks. The article definitely says, "the footprint of the 9,127-square-foot building". I think that you're right in that the article meant to say, "the 9,127 square foot footprint of the building...".
  6. The article says that the building is only around 9,000 square feet; is that correct? Or did the article mean 90,000 square feet?
  7. Great feedback, everyone. I am fine with developing multiple new buildings to replace the buildings on Main just to the south of Brooks Brothers. The new buildings should be at least a little taller than the current ones (maybe 4-5 stories instead of 2?) and a little wider, though. I'm thinking a series of Georgian-style brick buildings with ornamented and attractive facades, just like ones that were built in Greenville 100 years ago. The replacements could look like the other storefronts along Main--just higher-quality than the existing buildings on the site. With the location next to ONE, I'm guessing that A-grade retailers would flock to those spaces (but won't now due to the outdated format of those buildings now). I like old architecture generally, but old doesn't always mean good or worth preserving.
  8. As great as Greenville's Main Street is, certain parts of it are underutilized. For example, there is a strip of very small, nondescript buildings on the west side of Main between the former Belk discount store building and Brooks Brothers--i.e., the northern half of the block just to the south of Brooks Brothers. Those buildings have zero inherent architectural or historic value, are not fit for grade A tenants that are coming downtown, and are too small, limiting the amount of commercial space that is along Main. Why not tear them down and build newer buildings that would provide space that could attract more tenants like Brooks Brothers, add more commercial space on that bock and could otherwise improve the appearance of that block? That block has been sort of a laggard; it hasn't had stores or restaurants that really attracted a lot of crowds, perhaps in part because the buildings are so small and outdated. There are other chunks of buildings here and there that could use redevelopment. As much as I like historic architecture, some old buildings are just old, with little if any redeeming quality, and new construction that is in a historic style would be much better.
  9. Exile, great points. I think that the Bell Tower Mall developers just totally missed the main trend in those days: suburbanization and the decline of downtowns. Perhaps data back then wasn't as accessible as it is today, but some of the things we saw back then just seem like really dopey ideas, like, "hey, we have a big Belk store downtown. Let's build one at McAlister Square too, just a few miles away, and keep both open. Let's also have one at Lewis Plaza, between the two. Let's open yet another one at Pleasantburg Shopping Center. That's 4 Belk stores in one half of a 3 mile radius from downtown. There's plenty of population density to support all 4, right?"
  10. I grew up going to that Baskin-Robbins, too, and you're right. You're also right about the grocery stores. I recall watching the Winn-Dixie sign being taken down when the store closed; I was at the movie theater. I have no idea why anyone thought that it was a good idea to have a small mall in a bad area, not visible from a major street, anchored by 2 grocery stores and 2 discount stores.
  11. Hopefully the retailers at the new development will be better than these: Not one of them appeals to me now, and I am pretty sure that my family skipped over most all of them in the '70s in favor of McAlister Square.
  12. The developers of Greenville Mall's re-do in 1995 also spent $65 million on it. I don't recall how much they sold the carcass for in the early 2000s, but I'm guessing that they lost money. Magnolia Park seems to be doing well- at long last that site works for something.
  13. Maybe a hybrid lifestyle center with lots of office, lots of residential and some retail space would be the best mix for this site, with the retail being outlet mall-type retail, like a Saks Off Fifth? As much as I don't care for outlet malls, they are where the growth in retail is these days, Greenville doesn't have an outlet mall (even Asheville now does) and perhaps the spaces could be transitioned to regular retail easily if the outlet concept doesn't work on the site.
  14. Out of curiosity: What have been the biggest real estate flops in Greenville, meaning: * Investments that have bombed * Buildings that have looked really bad * Buildings that haven't lasted Of the current projects in the works, do you think that any of them could be flops? To propose my own answers, I'd say that the biggest flops in my lifetime have been Greenville Mall's second incarnation, since the developers spent at least $65 million on it and it was demolished after only about 10 years, as nice as it was, and perhaps Bell Tower Mall, which didn't even last more than about 10 years, either. I can't think of any definite flops these days, although those downtown hotels and apartment complexes might be dated in 10 years, and I hope that the apartment complexes don't attract a low-income clientele once they aren't nice and new. Thoughts?
  15. County Square's mall building is slightly over 300,000 square feet. Is it all used as office space, though? I recall walking through it even after the county bought it and the interior mall corridor and vacant retail spaces were still there.