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Mural on the side of The Nook apartments finally going in (Mat Moore)  

Just looking at the aerials and realizing how much  opportunity  for a truly dense "neighborhood/downtown/entertainment" district their is being wasted. I know we still need parking because transit he

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On 6/25/2020 at 11:20 AM, ertley said:

My first instinct was to propose full extension of Sunnyside into the new Central Square, ultimately connected to Pecan/Commonwealth, but I took a Street View on Google Maps and realized that, if nothing else, the length of the approach a vehicular (but multimodal) bridge would require for grade separation would ruin the aesthetics of the old buildings in Central Square, and even east Sunnyside, So I immediately abandoned the thought of a full multimodal bridge built for car traffic (but bicycles would still make the pedestrian bridge technically multimodal, right?) I also knew a vehicular bridge would be complicated by rights, costs issues, so my suggestion of *just* a pedestrian (and bike) bridge is hopefully a reasonable compromise that could and should be made to happen.

I passionately hope the old buildings in Central Square will be preserved--they're gems--and that new buildings will be built around them.

The city needs to fully realize that with the Silver Line stop for Pecan on the south end of Central Square, this isn't just another mid- to large scale private development, but is actually the genesis of an entirely new TOD neighborhood, and they need to fully lean in/on all parties to make it fulfill as many TOD expectations as physically possible. 

Although, as I type this, I did come up with a Big Idea, which means it will only ever be that, but... If the design for the new Central Square includes a large parking garage (which you know it will), it's likely--or rather should logically be--built alongside the railroad tracks. If you're building a multistory parking garage anyway, you're going to necessarily obscure the north facade of the westernmost historic building (by the tracks) anyway, so if it's going to happen regardless...

I'm now *dreaming* of a radical structure combining two elements: a multimodal bridge on its south end, with access to the parking structure from the bridge to the garage's upper levels (with traditional ground level access to the garage as well). You could even combine THREE elements and build this *multimodal structure* with a third element--a la Honeywell HQ or the hotel at the Spectrum South Tryon--a parking structure actually topped by a multiuse building, with the "best views" in Central/Commonwealth! The street elevation of the residential/business/retail structure would face the new elevated street (i.e. the Sunnyside street extension bridge), and the lower garage floors of the structure would be effectively screened by the other, standard height buildings built in the development.

Just my Thursday morning fantasy, typed out!   

Atlantic Station in Atlanta combined multistory buildings, parking decks and bridges:

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Great news saw on Twitter @cltdevelopment feed

The iconic Dairy Queen on Central will begin a new life. According to a filing with the city the building will undergo renovations to add bathrooms, covered seating & be modernized

The new tenant will be Velvet Taco 
@VelvetTacoCEO 
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Interesting that the walk circle stops at Independence, despite Pecan having a decent underpass with sidewalks and lighting, but crosses the railroad, where Central is about the only mediocre crossing for pedestrians.
Also seriously question how anyone would regularly transfer between Gold Line at Sunnyside and Silver Line at Pecan.

Since this thread is about plaza midwood I didn’t feel the need to draw out the entire circle but you are absolutely correct. Also I don’t think anyone would really transfer from a Silver Line to Gold Line unless they really needed to get a distance too far to walk and you don’t see another more convenient alternative.


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57 minutes ago, JeanClt said:


Since this thread is about plaza midwood I didn’t feel the need to draw out the entire circle but you are absolutely correct. Also I don’t think anyone would really transfer from a Silver Line to Gold Line unless they really needed to get a distance too far to walk and you don’t see another more convenient alternative.


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Anyone headed to Presby, CPCC (the largest campus in the state), the rebuilt Memorial Stadium, midtown, the government district (2nd Ward) from East CLT or Matthews would want to transfer at Hawthorne. These are huge trip generators.

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The clever portuguese have painted the newly pedestrian streets. Bright color pavement? DO NOT ENTER! better than erecting many signposts.

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Also in more clever portuguese thinking: with the decline of travel and vacationers, many short term rentals are vacant and owners reluctant to surrender to the vagaries of conventional renting market. Thus the City of Lisbon rents the apartments for a five year term from the owner, exempts the property from real estate tax and capital gains tax for the period, and then finds local tenant for reasonable rates. The city becomes the de facto owner for the term of five years. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-08/lisbon-s-plan-to-reclaim-vacation-rentals-for-housing

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Can't for the life of me remember the name of the sushi place that had the car lifts, but it appears that they've removed them, which is odd as I have seen cars up on them before. I'm kind of sad about it because they were cool, but also see it as a positive sign that developers are recognizing that a large parking lot is not necessary to drive business. My brother just moved into 1225 South Church, and as much as I hate "cars behind bars" the complex has exactly the number of spaces and bedrooms in the building, making it a pain for me when I do drive there, but it also makes it much easier to walk over when I do find street parking. Unlike my place which has 20 visitor spots, and requires one to cross Central should they park on the street. 

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13 hours ago, SpiritOf76 said:
13 hours ago, SpiritOf76 said:

Central closed at the tracks due to water pipe issue...

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I live in one of the adjacent buildings, I believe this might have happened during the tropical downpour we had the other day, I wasn’t home at the time but came across the closure late that night. They’ve had signs up for months warning about closures on Sunnyside and Hawthorne, they’d have alerted us if a closure of Central was planned.

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Boris + Natasha will be vacating their spot at 1214 Thomas Avenue in January 2021 making the neighborhood a little less funky and spunky.

"And a little farther up off Central, singer-songwriter Hope Nicholls has run the boutique Boris + Natasha for more than two decades. Nicholls is moving her shop in January to a new spot next to Tip Top Market on The Plaza."

Read more here.

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Does anyone have any idea what is planned for the plot on the corner of Hawthorne and Central.  It looks like 1120 LLC has assembled most of the surrounding parcels.  I'm sure no one was in a rush with the ever delayed streetcar in front, but now that there appears to be a light at the end of that tunnel, it does feel like one of the most underutilized lots in the area.

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