Scott Maddox enters Race for Governor!

[Florida]

.... so what does any of this have to do with how the next Governor of the State will affect our growth?

[KRC]

.... so what does any of this have to do with how the next Governor of the State will affect our growth?

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Lots really. A governor sets the tone of economic development. Chosing the right person with the right ideas can be and is crutial to a state's economic future. Make the wrong choices and it will take years to correct. I think Mr. Bush has done a great job in Florida....for outsiders. The state is practically an open door for retirees and blood from outside the region. However, what exactly about the quality of life for lifelong Floridians. On that topic, you really don't hear to many natives singing his praises. HOWEVER, as someone who bought a vacation property within the last two years in Florida, he did me some great favors. Problem is, I only live there 4, perhaps 5, weeks out of the year. Nonetheless, I don't pay nearly my fair share in local or state taxes, you do that for me. Thanks guys!

[Dale]

Can't vouch for Jeb's second term, but the Cato Institute gave Jeb its highest commendations, for fiscal management, his first term.

[Florida]

It has long seemed as if Jeb has had it out to get Tallahassee. First it was cutting the over 5000 state jobs, then it was slashing funding for some of our road projects and the universities. Although those things had an adverse affect on our growth, it was only temporary. Tallahassee was able to offset the loss of those jobs, with the creation of private companies that assumed the roles of the slashed state departments. I still contend the citizens of FL are best served by a non-profit state agency than a corporate money maker, but to each his own.

[Dale]

It has long seemed as if Jeb has had it out to get Tallahassee. First it was cutting the over 5000 state jobs, then it was slashing funding for some of our road projects and the universities. Although those things had an adverse affect on our growth, it was only temporary. Tallahassee was able to offset the loss of those jobs, with the creation of private companies that assumed the roles of the slashed state departments. I still contend the citizens of FL are best served by a non-profit state agency than a corporate money maker, but to each his own.

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jeb out to get Tally ? Well, that'll teach Leon County to vote Democrat !

[Florida]

^No comment.

[RiversideGator]

Jeb out to get Tallahassee? He was trying to cut back the bureaucrary (by firing 5000 workers), not hurt the city. I think the job cuts are a good thing, especially considering that they must have been completely unnecessary positions because their absence has not been felt at all. The taxpayers of the State of Florida dont want to subsidize Tally. I suggest you look to private enterprise for future growth.

[Florida]

Jeb out to get Tallahassee?! Absolutely! He wasn't trying to cut back on spending... if that was the case he wouldn't have hired for-profit companies to do the same jobs the state agencies have done for years. The reason you didn't feel the cut backs was because the work was outsourced to companies from other states (namely Ohio). Kinda like what Wal-Mart does when it imports its products from China instead of sell American. The tax payers of the state of Florida should be less concerned about subsidizing Tallahassee (its Capital City, btw Government isn't free) and more concerned about subsidizing out-of-state for-profit companies, less interested in acting in the good interest of the citizens of the state of Florida, and more interested in profit margins.

[Florida]

Maybe when Maddox is governor, we can get a remodel for some of the uglier state buildings downtown. New paint job won't hurt.

[monsoon]

Read Adam Smith, The Wealth Of Nations.  The "invisible hand" of the market causes society, in the aggregate, to advance through the actions of many individuals acting in their own best interests.  Everyone works so that they can pay for things.  If this is greed, so what.  Capitalism is the best system ever devised.  This is the bottom line.

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Depends on what you call "best". Unchecked Capitalism led to Slavery here in the USA, robber barons, monopolies, child laborers in horrible conditions, dangerous and unhealthy food, destruction of the environment, destruction of much of latin america by "capitalists", etc. The list goes on & on.

[Dale]

Depends on what you call "best".  Unchecked Capitalism led to Slavery here in the USA, robber barons, monopolies, child laborers in horrible conditions, dangerous and unhealthy food, destruction of the environment, destruction of much of latin america by "capitalists", etc.  The list goes on & on.

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I don't know that anyone here is arguing for a system which has no regard for potential harm caused to another. That said, are you an advocate for capitalism with certain checks ?

[Florida]

Ok... now we got us a nerd thread.

[Dale]

Okay then. Maybe this'll get us back on a manly track:

Bobby Bowden Stadium: Where Only Gators Get Out Alive ! B)

[RiversideGator]

Dale: I really liked the way we christened their new stadium over in Tallahassee, dont you?

[Florida]

Okay then. Maybe this'll get us back on a manly track:

Bobby Bowden Stadium: Where Only Gators Get Out Alive !  B)

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Lets get it right... its Doak Campbell Stadium... Bobby Bowden Field

[Florida]

Dale:  I really liked the way we christened their new stadium over in Tallahassee, dont you? 

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what new stadium????

[RiversideGator]

what new stadium????

Joke/Shambles Stadium

[Florida]

lol.... oh yeah like Bent-Grille Get-a-Grip stadium.

[monsoon]

I don't know that anyone here is arguing for a system which has no regard for potential harm caused to another. That said, are you an advocate for capitalism with certain checks ?

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Of course. Government has certainly has a role to play in controling how the economy works. If FDR had not taken office when he did and put the New Deal in operation, the world could possibly be a far different place today.

[bobdreamz]

Maddox is well known in metro Miami....beware Republican Florida.

Remeber we put Graham and Chiles in office.

[Dale]

Of course.  Government has certainly has a role to play in controling how the economy works.  If FDR had not taken office when he did and put the New Deal in operation, the world could possibly be a far different place today.

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Oh, no. I don't mean by 'checks' that givernment should regulate the economy. Only that it should insure against fraud, and such as that.

And many would argue that FDR set a very, very bad precedent with his New Deal. Basically that the solution (over the long term) was worse than the problem (the Great Depression).

[Dale]

Maddox is well known in metro Miami....beware Republican Florida.

Remeber we put Graham and Chiles in office.

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Believe me, bob, we remember.

Tell you the truth, there's only one political party in America, IMO. Call it the Great American Socialist Party, with the Democrats as the left wing and the Republicans as the right wing. The former runs to socialism while the latter walks toward socialism.

[Florida]

Believe me, bob, we remember.   

Tell you the truth, there's only one political party in America, IMO. Call it the Great American Socialist Party, with the Democrats as the left wing and the Republicans as the right wing. The former runs to socialism while the latter walks toward socialism.

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^WTF.... c'mon too much socialist this, new deal that, e=mc^2, IMO!

I do remember Graham and Chiles, those were great days for Florida. Hopefully Miami, Tallahassee and the rest can work together to put a good guy up.

[Florida]

Oh, no. I don't mean by 'checks' that givernment should regulate the economy. Only that it should insure against fraud, and such as that.

And many would argue that FDR set a very, very bad precedent with his New Deal. Basically that the solution (over the long term) was worse than the problem (the Great Depression).

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I hope you aren't one of the many who would argue this.

[Dale]

I hope you aren't one of the many who would argue this.

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I'm afraid I'm going to have to dissappoint you.