SouthPark neighborhood Projects

[tozmervo]

Could we see Target try to develop stores in South Park & Cotswold?

[Guest]

Could we see Target try to develop stores in South Park & Cotswold?

I was wondering that myself, but then I remembered there was a Target at Blakeney & one at Ballantyne. Which is practically walking distance, albeit, precarious walking in the middle of a street. With the population Density, I wouldn't rule out the possibility. 

Edited June 19, 2015 by Guest

[Miesian Corners]

Could be different types of stores.  Target has its "City" concept stores that could go in either neighborhood.

[Third Strike]

Could be different types of stores.  Target has its "City" concept stores that could go in either neighborhood.

 

Just looked it up, and I would love a design like this. Is this too urban for SouthPark/Cotswold?

 

Edited June 19, 2015 by Third Strike

[ah59396]

Just looked it up, and I would love a design like this. Is this too urban for SouthPark/Cotswold?

That's too urban for Uptown, let alone Southpark.

[tozmervo]

Swap out metal panel for EIFS and that's pretty much the epicenter.

[Miesian Corners]

The image above is an entertainment and shopping complex in San Francisco.  I kinda doubt anyone would build that at SouthPark or Cotswold.  But a City Target? Sure. City Target stores are typically smaller than traditional Target stores, ranging in size from 80,000-160,000 square feet. Target Express is also a reality now, with 20,000-square foot stores offering quick trip items.

[rjp212]

Melrose Place near Woodlawn and Park is being planned to be redeveloped. Fairly large PDF but it includes a rendering of a "blah" style apartment complex.  Does look nicer than one is there though.

 

http://ww.charmeck.org/Planning/Rezoning/2015/090-106/2015-093%20site%20plan.pdf

Edited July 7, 2015 by rjp212

[RaleighHeelsfan]

Sharon United Methodist hit “snag” Can anyone elaborate on this any further? Is this bad for the future of this project? Sounds that way.

http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/real_estate/2015/07/mixed-use-project-planned-for-church-site-in.html

[archiham04]

Okay, so the Harris family is now an obstacle in two MAJOR SouthPark land development deals.  Does anyone feel like this blatant maneuvering to protect personal interests at the expense of the community might be going a bit too far. 

[InSouthPark]

Okay, so the Harris family is now an obstacle in two MAJOR SouthPark land development deals.  Does anyone feel like this blatant maneuvering to protect personal interests at the expense of the community might be going a bit too far. 

HA! We all know Cameron and Dee-Dee Harris are the hold outs and will not sign off on the change. They are too worried about their precious little crappy shopping center across the street.

At least the Colony project is just a petition and will likely not block that project. 

I hope CK got something up their sleeves to deal with this. Maybe a memorial hole for Dee-Dee? 

Edited July 28, 2015 by InSouthPark

[AP3]

Rendering/site plan of the 2-story Starbucks behind Whole Foods

http://www.charlotteagenda.com/13317/view-renderings-of-new-two-story-starbucks-coming-to-southpark/

 

 

[Guest]

Rendering/site plan of the 2-story Starbucks behind Whole Foods

http://www.charlotteagenda.com/13317/view-renderings-of-new-two-story-starbucks-coming-to-southpark/

 

 

Actually was kinda impressed. Looks nice.

[InSouthPark]

Rendering/site plan of the 2-story Starbucks behind Whole Foods

http://www.charlotteagenda.com/13317/view-renderings-of-new-two-story-starbucks-coming-to-southpark/

 

 

Looks good.

Having a drive through will be pretty big for this location. Easy in and out for the 10 million people that drive Sharon to SP and uptown (and fantastic visibility). I can see a lot of use from the two new hotels that are going up across the street as well the locals living in the apartments in Sharon Square.  I stop occasionally at the Starbucks at the Tajmateeter and it is always packed even before 7am and that spot is totally out of sight. 

[Spartan]

Having a drive thru right there is probably going to create chaos during the morning rush.

[DMann]

Having a drive thru right there is probably going to create chaos during the morning rush.

Shouldn't that be MORE chaos?

 

[SgtCampsalot]

Neat little op-ed blog post from Craig Lewis, Director of the Lawrence Group:

Six Ways to Turn SouthPark Into a Great Urban Neighborhood

[InSouthPark]

Speaking of Southpark, any word on what is going in the two retail spots at Capital Towers? They look ready to start the restaurant buildout inside. Hoping Midwood BBQ takes the 8000sf spot (they have hinted at SP expansion) as this area has no damn BBQ spots for lunch! The Ballentyne location has been killing it the few times we have been in. Huge wait on a Friday after 6:30. 

[caterpillar2]

Having a drive thru right there is probably going to create chaos during the morning rush.

Or any time.  There isn't a good tine around Fairview and Sharon. Getting to Fairview from the Whole Foods parking lot from Sharon is very unpleasant. No problem for walkers.

 

[tozmervo]

Neat little op-ed blog post from Craig Lewis, Director of the Lawrence Group:

Six Ways to Turn SouthPark Into a Great Urban Neighborhood

I love the mention that Michigan Avenue in Chicago has the same traffic counts as Fairview. Traffic is no excuse.

[Crown]

Speaking of Southpark, any word on what is going in the two retail spots at Capital Towers? They look ready to start the restaurant buildout inside. Hoping Midwood BBQ takes the 8000sf spot (they have hinted at SP expansion) as this area has no damn BBQ spots for lunch! The Ballentyne location has been killing it the few times we have been in. Huge wait on a Friday after 6:30. 

I think a fast-casual breakfast joint would kill it (Read: toast, or something similar)

[cltcane]

I'm not sure how I feel about the new law repealing the rezoning protest petition in Charlotte, but in this case it seems to be a good thing.  The developers of the mixed-use project in SouthPark effectively blocked by Cameron and Dee-Dee Harris (presumably because it negatively affects the value of their nearby businesses and/or land even though they've claimed it's because they're concerned about increased traffic in the neighborhood and a "lack of cohesive design integration into surrounding properties") have refiled their rezoning request.  They have also made some changes to the master plan based on feedback from surrounding neighborhoods, including reducing the height of the office and hotel buildings and improving medians to enhance pedestrian safety.

http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/real_estate/2015/09/developers-filing-again-for-southpark-development.html

Edited September 29, 2015 by cltcane

[Silicon Dogwoods]

"lack of cohesive design integration into surrounding properties"

That must mean the offending developer will not be using paste-on pediments.

[InSouthPark]

I'm not sure how I feel about the new law repealing the rezoning protest petition in Charlotte, but in this case it seems to be a good thing.  The developers of the mixed-use project in SouthPark effectively blocked by Cameron and Dee-Dee Harris (presumably because it negatively affects the value of their land even though they've claimed it's because they're concerned about increased traffic in the neighborhood and a "lack of cohesive design integration into surrounding properties") have refiled their rezoning request.  They have also made some changes to the master plan based on feedback from surrounding neighborhoods, including reducing the height of the office and hotel buildings and improving medians to enhance pedestrian safety.

http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/real_estate/2015/09/developers-filing-again-for-southpark-development.html

I don't see how it hurts the value of their land, I do however see how it will affect the businesses they own on those properties. Their dumpy little strip of stores, restaurants, etc will become irrelevant. 

I think Cam and Dee Dee screwing with the ski slope church deal is a bigger issue. They need to go away and concentrate on their pretend project that they are planning in Dee Dee's hole.

[cltbwimob]

^^^Yes, the protest petition wreaked of protectionism on the part of the Harris family.