SouthPark neighborhood Projects

[KJHburg]

We need a crane count thread but only in place permanent cranes I saw 2 at the Novant medical office bldg today on Queens and 4th.

[Havemercy]

4 hours ago, KJHburg said:

We need a crane count thread but only in place permanent cranes I saw 2 at the Novant medical office bldg today on Queens and 4th.

25 by my count:  Uptown 9 (KJHburg count), Southpark 6 (KJH), Novant Presby 3, Atrium Midtown at Kenilworth 1, Park Road 1, University City 1, Providence Rd 1 (was still there 2 weeks ago), Southend 2 and then Unknown 1 (I see this one way off in the distance from my office in Midtown, looking towards the southwest). 

 

[Bikeguy]

51 minutes ago, Havemercy said:

25 by my count:  Uptown 9 (KJHburg count), Southpark 6 (KJH), Novant Presby 3, Atrium Midtown at Kenilworth 1, Park Road 1, University City 1, Providence Rd 1 (was still there 2 weeks ago), Southend 2 and then Unknown 1 (I see this one way off in the distance from my office in Midtown, looking towards the southwest). 

 

Could be the new one at Southminster across from South Meck HS. 

 

[videtur quam contuor]

Welcome Havemercy. Good post

[pgsinger]

Ok...So only permanent cranes count?

I will get a proper South Park count next Tuesday.  

[KJHburg]

7 hours ago, pgsinger said:

Ok...So only permanent cranes count?

I will get a proper South Park count next Tuesday.  

I would think because when we get into those highly mobile cranes they are there a few days and gone.  anyway you cut it we have a lot of cranes around town.  Uptown, south end, midtown, southpark and then a few scattered around town.  

[KJHburg]

Since Johnny Harris is talking a lot about the Southpark area I will put this here but he does have some other things to say too.

http://businessnc.com/johnny-harris-discusses-restoring-retail-and-the-triangles-big-flub/?utm_source=Business+North+Carolina+Daily+Digest&utm_campaign=1a1b635efb-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2_6_2019_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_7ae5defd0d-1a1b635efb-122553233

[tozmervo]

58 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

I would think because when we get into those highly mobile cranes they are there a few days and gone.  anyway you cut it we have a lot of cranes around town.  Uptown, south end, midtown, southpark and then a few scattered around town.  

There are 4-5 mobile cranes strung along the railway work for gateway. It's an impressive little skyline 

[SydneyCarton]

Does anyone know when the Colony might be redeveloped?  

[KJHburg]

10 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Does anyone know when the Colony might be redeveloped?  

Third quarter of 2019 so says their website.   Publix did sign on as an anchor.

https://www.thecolonyredevelopment.com/

[SydneyCarton]

29 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

Third quarter of 2019 so says their website.   Publix did sign on as an anchor.

https://www.thecolonyredevelopment.com/

That’s great!  I remember the Public news, but I didn’t recall if a date was set.

[NCMike1990]

Aerials from Clear Sky of the Parkview Building

https://photos.clearskyimages.com/2019-03-5821-fairview-charlotte-nc-aerials

 

[KJHburg]

^^^ Must be going on the market soon.  I will check around.

[InSouthPark]

12 hours ago, KJHburg said:

^^^ Must be going on the market soon.  I will check around.

Oh please demo this building so that the Park South Extension can be finished.  https://charlottenc.gov/Projects/Pages/ParkSouthExtension.aspx

With the redevelopment of Carnegie, we need another way out of this place and hopefully that would kickstart turning Carnegie into a two lane road with on-street parking (which it basically is now with people parking illegally all over).

[KJHburg]

This is my most anticipated suburban project in the city.  Apex Southpark.  Here are some renderings of the Hyatt Hotel and the apartments and at the link is a video of the church and how it fits into the project.  It is really a great project.  With lots of retail. 

The church video overview

https://www.apexsouthpark.com/home-2/

 

[KJHburg]

Here is the overall plan for Apex Southpark.  

[Matthew.Brendan]

That’s fantastic and really the type of density South Park needs. I was driving by last night and had no idea what was going in there. Site work is well underway and construction has already begun. 

[Sigma]

I feel like with apex, and the colony redevelopment, this area is going to start to feel VERY dense.  The height of a lot of these projects isn't much or impressive, but the overall density and layout of a lot of these seem to be well planned. If only SP was more pedestrian friendly, maybe the SP plan will help with that.

[JFerreira91]

Cool project and fits well in SP.

[CLT2014]

44 minutes ago, Sigma said:

I feel like with apex, and the colony redevelopment, this area is going to start to feel VERY dense.  The height of a lot of these projects isn't much or impressive, but the overall density and layout of a lot of these seem to be well planned. If only SP was more pedestrian friendly, maybe the SP plan will help with that.

The nightmare for trying to make SP more pedestrian friendly is you have Sharon and Fairview running right through the heart of it. It is hard to adjust these major transportation arteries, it is completely surrounded by car dependent suburban neighborhoods, and there is a massive shopping mall that customers can only arrive to via car. If we could get rapid bus transport with stations through SP, the area might be able to shift slightly away from auto dependence, but it will certainly become a congested mess in the meantime as development builds up, but infrastructure lags behind. 

I do think a crossing bridge over Sharon and Fairview could be interesting. If somebody lives at the Apex, they likely will drive to the Original Pancake at Sharon Square for example, even though it is a short walk due to the wide intersection at Fairview and Sharon. Solving for this will help prevent these new residents from also being largely car dependent. 

Edited March 27, 2019 by CLT2014

[videtur quam contuor]

Fairview is a river. Three years ago I was looking to move and a breaking point on location was inside that street. Just a  block beyond it was brutal at Christmas and rush hours. Walking was strongly discouraged at any time and any day. Interesting that CLT2014 considers a bridge over Sharon and Fairview which reinforces the river analogy. Highway 51 is another river. 

[KJHburg]

I think what can be done from this project Apex to the mall property itself is more of refugee island in the median as it is wide street and some people may not make it across in one swoop.  We have 3-4 lane streets uptown one way that are very similar.  Also longer lights for the walkers when the button is pushed to cross.  

[videtur quam contuor]

"refugee island" Face it. Trying to cross on foot is equivalent to fleeing Venezuela:  desperation. I would dub this refugee island the" island of hopelessness". 

[KJHburg]

32 minutes ago, tarhoosier said:

"refugee island" Face it. Trying to cross on foot is equivalent to fleeing Venezuela:  desperation. I would dub this refugee island the" island of hopelessness". 

actually that is what they call them in Australia you take a zebra crossing to a refugee island LOL that is what a mate would say in the land down under .   

[pgsinger]

On 3/21/2019 at 1:13 AM, pgsinger said:

Ok...So only permanent cranes count?

I will get a proper South Park count next Tuesday.  

Confirmed on the 6 cranes in SP.  2 at each of Liberty South Park, Apex South Park, and ZOM South Park.