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2 hours ago, KJHburg said:

SouthPark Mall is one of the top performing malls in the country based on sales per square I would not look for any changes in the foreseeable future other than some reshuffling of tenants as they come and go (but mostly they stay) .  Every city has at least one AAA mall and this is ours.    Houston has the Galleria,  Dallas has NorthPark, DC has Tysons,  Philly has King of Prussia and this is our AAA mall. 

I would look for redevelopment at Carolina Place Mall first.  

I’ve always thought that Carolina Place was kind of a dump.  I’d like to see it replaced with a huge Birkdale-style complex with retail, apartments, hotels, and some new schools.

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Brookfield has already started a redevelopment at North Point Mall in Alpharetta.   They are tearing down the vacant Sears and put outside restaurants along with an apartment complex.  It will be way too late for Brookfield to wait until a big maybe LYNX is extended that way.   They need to start this redevelopment maybe with that in mind but starting the North Point Mall treatment.  I have been to both malls and North Point is slightly better but struggling due to a nearby outside mixed used development called Avalon (like Waverly but much bigger)  This area has great demographics as does Carolina Place.  

from the ATL Biz Journal

""A planned 30-acre redevelopment of Alpharetta’s North Point Mall would add apartments, retail space and a new outdoor plaza.  Mall owner Brookfield Property Partners L.P submitted new renderings to Alpharetta officials of the project that would remake North Point’s former Sears department store. Brookfield last year acquired General Growth Properties Inc.  The images show a striking new entrance to the mall, dubbed “The Point” in renderings. They also show a large greenspace with a water feature. The project would add 300 residential units in three buildings and 24,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space in three buildings. Drive-through restaurants are discouraged, according to the city’s staff report, suggesting officials want the new project to be pedestrian friendly. Rooftops and outdoor dining are encouraged.    Other features of the plan include a new multi-use path along North Point Circle, which wraps around the mall.""

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9 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

Brookfield has already started a redevelopment at North Point Mall in Alpharetta.   They are tearing down the vacant Sears and put outside restaurants along with an apartment complex.  It will be way too late for Brookfield to wait until a big maybe LYNX is extended that way.   They need to start this redevelopment maybe with that in mind but starting the North Point Mall treatment.  I have been to both malls and North Point is slightly better but struggling due to a nearby outside mixed used development called Avalon (like Waverly but much bigger)  This area has great demographics as does Carolina Place.  

from the ATL Biz Journal

""A planned 30-acre redevelopment of Alpharetta’s North Point Mall would add apartments, retail space and a new outdoor plaza.  Mall owner Brookfield Property Partners L.P submitted new renderings to Alpharetta officials of the project that would remake North Point’s former Sears department store. Brookfield last year acquired General Growth Properties Inc.  The images show a striking new entrance to the mall, dubbed “The Point” in renderings. They also show a large greenspace with a water feature. The project would add 300 residential units in three buildings and 24,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space in three buildings. Drive-through restaurants are discouraged, according to the city’s staff report, suggesting officials want the new project to be pedestrian friendly. Rooftops and outdoor dining are encouraged.    Other features of the plan include a new multi-use path along North Point Circle, which wraps around the mall.""

If I speak to them again, I will ask about their time frame to start improvements.  However, my expectation is that they will not do much until something is decided on the light rail.  As I understand it, the blue line could stop at the mall exactly or be several miles away from it.  Those create two very different results for the mall.  Without the rail to spur the new life, I am not sure they will want to reposition it as a retail center in the face of some other nearby centers (Ballantyne, Tanger, etc.).  After all, the mall is dying in part due to location and competition.  Without the light rail, an entirely new purpose for the land may be the best use.  I will probably talk to those guys in a few weeks, so I will let you know what they say if this comes up.

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I know that I'm in the minority here, but I'd really like to see the mall come down and be replaced with a walkable, outside shopping center.

Actually I bet you are in the majority


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