Inside 440 - Berry Hill, Midtown, Vanderbilt, 12S, WeHo, Fairgrounds, etc.

[smeagolsfree]

As far as the historic building on the Welch Campus, some are already eligible for Historic designation by Metro Historic. They will have to wait 90 days before they can be demolished, However, we have seen that doesn't always work.

[samsonh]

Any word on the forestar project on music row announced early last year? Still a go?

[MLBrumby]

As far as the historic building on the Welch Campus, some are already eligible for Historic designation by Metro Historic. They will have to wait 90 days before they can be demolished, However, we have seen that doesn't always work.

It's been my observation (not a close one) that Metro Historical commission always appears to be a "day late" with their attempts to save a historic building.  The past few structures to be demolished appeared to surprise the woman who leads the commission. 

[titanhog]

Vanderbilt acquisition of former Oasis Center property at 1415 17th Ave. S. creates new assemblage of 3.25 total acres east of campus, when you include the old Sony building purchased this summer.

So...Vandy has finally made it to 17th.  It wasn't that long ago that they made it to 18th and crossed over to the alley...now they've made it all the way over to 17th.  I can imagine an eventual war between them and Belmont on who gets the rest of Music Row one day.

[titanhog]

It's been my observation (not a close one) that Metro Historical commission always appears to be a "day late" with their attempts to save a historic building.  The past few structures to be demolished appeared to surprise the woman who leads the commission. 

I think they're going to have to do a better job of identifying "historical" structures and getting them registered BEFORE the homeowners sell the structures to a developer.  These developers are purchasing the structures one day...and knocking them down in the middle of the night (in some cases).

 

I guess part of the issue is that we can't just place historical value on anything and everything that's over a certain age in Nashville.  I can imagine it's not always an easy job to determine what should stay and what should go.  I think there's quite a bit of difference between the home that was standing where the Virgin Hotel will be built...and the house that Manuel owned next to Noshville.

[bwithers1]

The Executive Director of the Metro Historic Commission is Tim Walker.  Just in case there is any confusion, Historic Nashville, Inc. is a non-profit organization that advocates for historic preservation and is a 501©(3) organization that raises funds for historic preservation efforts and accepts tax-beneficial historic preservation easements.  Historic Nashville, Inc., is not a Metro Nashville department.  But Historic Nashville, Inc., publicly advocates for historic preservation and sometimes folks confuse them with the Metro Historic Commission.   

 

While it is the case that the Metro Historic Commission has jurisdiction over historic properties that have local zoning in place to protect them, that number of properties is but a small percentage of the actual remaining stock of historic properties in Nashville.  The Metro Historic Commission does not have jurisdiction to protect all historic properties in Nashville, only those that have historic protection zoning already in place.  But the Metro Historic Zoning Commission does work with property owners to add those protective zoning easements where there is strong property owner support for that.

 

As for National Register status, National Register eligibility may allow the Metro Historical Commission to delay a demolition, but it usually will not prevent the demolition.  Even National Register listing does not prevent demolition.  National Register Listing may, however, make a property eligible for certain preservation incentives in some cases.  It is also the case that by law federal funds cannot be used on projects that would impact the eligibility of a National Register-listed property.  Federal grants, such as road and transit grants, often require lengthy reviews to determine the impact of proposed projects on National Register-listed properties.  This was the case with the AMP proposal, which would have had a turn-around location at the National Register-listed East High School, for example.

 

On a more general zoning level, in the case of base zoning or land use policy change proposals or SP proposals, the Metro Historic Commission is one of several Metro departments that provides reviews on zone change requests.  That is why MHC commentary appears in the staff analysis of zone change requests.  In those cases, the MHC will typically indicate whether a property is National Register listed or National Register eligible, which are federal designations, or whether a property is listed as Worthy of Conservation, which is a local designation that is determined through the Community Plan process.  The Planning Commissioners will weigh the Metro Historic Zoning Commission findings among all of the other Metro department findings when evaluating a zone change recommendation to the Council. 

 

Ultimately, the Council Member has final zoning authority.  The Council Member cannot prevent demolition of non-protected historic structures under existing base zoning rights absent historic zoning; however, the Council Member does have discretion to consider historic preservation approaches in deciding whether to ask his or her peers on the Council for support of the zone change request.  In light of the recent conversations in Nashville about preservation, some Council Members are more vocal than others about supporting or opposing zone change requests that intentionally lead to demolition of historic structures.  In some cases, the District Council Members have asked or required that zone change applicants work with the Metro Historic Commission, and Tim Walker in particular, to explore opportunities to reuse historic properties, to relocate them, or to salvage historically significant architectural elements from buildings as a condition of approval of the zone change request. Perhaps at a minimum such a salvage process will be implemented for the property that Manuel sold for redevelopment.

Edited January 8, 2015 by bwithers1

[titanhog]

^^^Definitely wouldn't want to be in charge of deciding what stays and what goes.  That's a mighty task and often-times, a very subjective one.

[NashRugger]

Historic preservation needs to be more proactive instead of reactive, as it almost seems to be the case lately. By the time it hits the media and they try and make a case, it's just far too late because $s talk and time is money.

[CenterHill]

So...Vandy has finally made it to 17th.  It wasn't that long ago that they made it to 18th and crossed over to the alley...now they've made it all the way over to 17th.  I can imagine an eventual war between them and Belmont on who gets the rest of Music Row one day.

 

Vanderbilt already owns properties at 120717th Ave S. and adjacent parking lots.    But, yes, the footprint grows!  

[gml]

Construction fencing has gone up around the Crescent site. FYI.

[Hey_Hey]

This has been in the works for a few months now, but it has finally become official. The Edgehill Village owners have applied for a change in the community plan from T4 Neighborhood Maintenance to T4 Neighborhood Center for all of their current property as well as property on the other side of Edgehill from them now. Technically, they are non-conforming with the current neighborhood plan, and this will bring them into conformity as well as allow future expansion on lots fronting Edgehill across from their property.

[titanhog]

SIAP...but I noticed in the Post that an Atlanta firm has purchased the land at 19th & Broad and plans to start building those two towers that have been posted...late this year.  I don't know if they'll somehow help save the historic home or not.  The article is locked for now.

[NashRugger]

I hope to goodness they find a way to relocate that incredibly beautiful home. Knocking that one down would be ultimate hell to pay, worse than the Virgin property crap bomb.

[smeagolsfree]

This is the take away. from the story.

 

Regent plans a 25-story residential tower and a 16-story hotel for the site.

 

The tenants will remain in the space for about four months, and the building (and another structure on the multi-parcel site) will eventually be razed to accommodate the project.

 

 

https://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2015/1/13/atlanta_developer_targets_late_2015_start_for_midtown_project

[Bezoar]

This is the take away. from the story.

 

Regent plans a 25-story residential tower and a 16-story hotel for the site.

 

The tenants will remain in the space for about four months, and the building (and another structure on the multi-parcel site) will eventually be razed to accommodate the project.

 

 

https://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2015/1/13/atlanta_developer_targets_late_2015_start_for_midtown_project

 

This property includes Hattie B's, or no? 

[dmillsphoto]

This property includes Hattie B's, or no? 

 

No.

[smeagolsfree]

no

[titanhog]

This is the take away. from the story.

 

Regent plans a 25-story residential tower and a 16-story hotel for the site.

 

The tenants will remain in the space for about four months, and the building (and another structure on the multi-parcel site) will eventually be razed to accommodate the project.

 

 

https://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2015/1/13/atlanta_developer_targets_late_2015_start_for_midtown_project

 

So...there goes another cool, old Nashville home.

 

Makes me think of Steve Martin in "The Jerk".  "They're knocking down the old homes!  They hate the homes!  They hate the homes!"

[barakat]

This might be new info: It seems Mark Zeff is handling design of the Virgin Hotel.

 

"Most recently, the firm has been asked by Virgin Hotel Group to develop its new hotel in Nashville as well, as in other locations to be announced."

 

http://www.markzeff.com/

 

[dmillsphoto]

Also responsible for the recent Hilton Canopy Hotel designs.

[MidTenn1]

A summary of MidTown...

 

[smeagolsfree]

St. Bernard School expansion.

 

https://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2015/1/14/st_bernard_to_begin_32m_expansion_this_summer

[Guest]

Both of my boys attended SBA. It is a great institution and the growth is welcomed.

[smeagolsfree]

Another Mixed use tower coming to the West End area.

 

https://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2015/1/15/elliston_place_targeted_for_mixed_use_tower

 

[gannman]

Another Mixed use tower coming to the West End area.

 

https://www.nashvillepost.com/news/2015/1/15/elliston_place_targeted_for_mixed_use_tower

 

 

 

 

 

Not my favorite design, but it's much better than the strip mall.