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7 hours ago, AronG said:

Parking garages are totally dead space to me. When you're walking around a cool/busy neighborhood, they're big dead things with nothing interesting to see or visit that adds to the distance you have to walk to get to useful places. They serve no purpose other than storage, house no commercial or cultural activity, and generate scarce tax dollars relative to productive uses. They make everything more expensive because we all have to share the price to pay for them, and they also stimulate car traffic, as they're a subsidized invitation to thousands of people to bring their cars with them instead of bus/bike/walk/rideshare.

Alive, fun, useful place:

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Dead no-mans land that becomes a wasted, empty spot on the map:

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While I'd love for us to not need parking garages in our urban areas, the fact is, Nashville has no good form of public transportation, so the majority travel by car. You make it hard to park and downtown gets less accessable, and revenues/tax dollars go down. What kind of risk are you taking by limiting parking in hopes that people begin to see the light of public transportation? Is it short sighted? Maybe, but mass transit is unfortunately a long way away from happening in Nashville. I just can't agree that they are dead spaces when they do have an actual, functional use at this point in time in Nashville. It doesn't mean I like them however, they're a necessary evil, if you will. 

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9 hours ago, AronG said:

Parking garages are totally dead space to me. When you're walking around a cool/busy neighborhood, they're big dead things with nothing interesting to see or visit that adds to the distance you have to walk to get to useful places. ...

Dead no-mans land that becomes a wasted, empty spot on the map:

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Below, the building on the right (at Church and 3rd) is a parking garage.  This street is beautifully activated, narrow, well-enclosed and pedestrian friendly.  Parking structures are not inherently bad, but there is a twofold problem, IMO, 1) they aren't required to be built with street activation and 2) they are usually in places like that huge campus of hospital buildings above.  I don't know if there exist any such corporate or hospital campuses that aren't dead zones, but I haven't seen one.  I am of the opinion that cars ruin everything, but it's not because of the garages.  We just need to require if they're on an urban street they need to address it property.  I really would like to see the DT library's parking get some retail spaces embedded in the ground floor facing onto Commerce at least.  I think it could be done.

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16 hours ago, satalac said:

While I'd love for us to not need parking garages in our urban areas, the fact is, Nashville has no good form of public transportation, so the majority travel by car. You make it hard to park and downtown gets less accessable, and revenues/tax dollars go down. What kind of risk are you taking by limiting parking in hopes that people begin to see the light of public transportation? Is it short sighted? Maybe, but mass transit is unfortunately a long way away from happening in Nashville. I just can't agree that they are dead spaces when they do have an actual, functional use at this point in time in Nashville. It doesn't mean I like them however, they're a necessary evil, if you will. 

Fair, but I guess I'm making the case that it's no longer necessary to *add* to this particular evil. Cities grow over long periods of time based on the transportation options that are available, like a plant grows root structures based on the soil and moisture around it. I'm not advocating that we abruptly close all of our parking garages, I'm saying we should stop subsidizing and mandating new ones and start incentivizing people to find other ways to get around.

Right now we regulate and subsidize a huge surplus of parking for individual car commuters (3-4 parking spots per car), which amounts to a giant hidden tax that we all pay to encourage ourselves to use the worst form of transportation for urban areas. Real mass transit doesn't happen overnight, it builds slowly as more people choose to use it, enabling service upgrades which make it even more attractive. Dense streetscapes that make walking/biking a pleasant prospect aren't on/off either. They all have to grow organically over time, but the first step is to start fixing our weird tilted incentive structure that is a legacy of the past. You cite revenue/tax dollars, but those would both be wildly higher if you took even 10% of our land area that's devoted to pavement and put it towards productive uses. Building huge parking towers and paving half the county to incentivize people to live 20+ miles away from where they work is not an efficient way to generate economic activity.

Here's a report that came out the other day trying to put numbers on how much money goes toward parking: https://www.mba.org/2018-press-releases/july/riha-releases-new-report-quantified-parking-comprehensive-parking-inventories-for-five-major-us-cities. They looked at 5 cities, but here's the summary for Seattle:
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$35 billion! More than a hundred grand *per household*!?! I wonder what the number for Nashville is? I wonder how the city would evolve if we slowly restructured incentives so that those costs were only footed by the people that choose to use it.

14 hours ago, Neigeville2 said:

Below, the building on the right (at Church and 3rd) is a parking garage.  This street is beautifully activated, narrow, well-enclosed and pedestrian friendly.  Parking structures are not inherently bad, but there is a twofold problem, IMO, 1) they aren't required to be built with street activation and 2) they are usually in places like that huge campus of hospital buildings above.  I don't know if there exist any such corporate or hospital campuses that aren't dead zones, but I haven't seen one.  I am of the opinion that cars ruin everything, but it's not because of the garages.  We just need to require if they're on an urban street they need to address it property.  I really would like to see the DT library's parking get some retail spaces embedded in the ground floor facing onto Commerce at least.  I think it could be done.

Totally agree that's a huge improvement compared to city blocks that are purely devoted to parking and nothing else. It's nowhere near as beneficial to the vibrancy and productivity of the city as buildings filled with people doing things but it goes a long way towards mitigating the damage to the urban fabric.

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West End Circle Flats (3 & 4 stories, 30 units) update.

Looking NE from intersection of West End Circle and Mason Ave:

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Looking NW from West End Circle, 1/2 block east of Mason Ave:

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Looking NW along West End Circle, 1/2 block east of Mason Ave:

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Looking east from Mason Ave., 1/2 block north of West End Circle:

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19 hours ago, AronG said:

Fair, but I guess I'm making the case that it's no longer necessary to *add* to this particular evil. Cities grow over long periods of time based on the transportation options that are available, like a plant grows root structures based on the soil and moisture around it. I'm not advocating that we abruptly close all of our parking garages, I'm saying we should stop subsidizing and mandating new ones and start incentivizing people to find other ways to get around.

Right now we regulate and subsidize a huge surplus of parking for individual car commuters (3-4 parking spots per car), which amounts to a giant hidden tax that we all pay to encourage ourselves to use the worst form of transportation for urban areas. Real mass transit doesn't happen overnight, it builds slowly as more people choose to use it, enabling service upgrades which make it even more attractive. Dense streetscapes that make walking/biking a pleasant prospect aren't on/off either. They all have to grow organically over time, but the first step is to start fixing our weird tilted incentive structure that is a legacy of the past. You cite revenue/tax dollars, but those would both be wildly higher if you took even 10% of our land area that's devoted to pavement and put it towards productive uses. Building huge parking towers and paving half the county to incentivize people to live 20+ miles away from where they work is not an efficient way to generate economic activity.

Here's a report that came out the other day trying to put numbers on how much money goes toward parking: https://www.mba.org/2018-press-releases/july/riha-releases-new-report-quantified-parking-comprehensive-parking-inventories-for-five-major-us-cities. They looked at 5 cities, but here's the summary for Seattle:
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$35 billion! More than a hundred grand *per household*!?! I wonder what the number for Nashville is? I wonder how the city would evolve if we slowly restructured incentives so that those costs were only footed by the people that choose to use it.

Totally agree that's a huge improvement compared to city blocks that are purely devoted to parking and nothing else. It's nowhere near as beneficial to the vibrancy and productivity of the city as buildings filled with people doing things but it goes a long way towards mitigating the damage to the urban fabric.

That is good information, but part of the reason that people live 20+ miles away is due to housing affordability. It's cheaper for someone to live in places like Antioch or Murfreesboro and commute into downtown. If we could get a viable mass transit plan in place, I believe that dedicated parking structures would be a much less attractive thing for developers to build. Trust me, I'd love to see other things than garages built downtown. 

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On ‎7‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 6:53 PM, Neigeville2 said:

Below, the building on the right (at Church and 3rd) is a parking garage.  This street is beautifully activated, narrow, well-enclosed and pedestrian friendly.  Parking structures are not inherently bad, but there is a twofold problem, IMO, 1) they aren't required to be built with street activation and 2) they are usually in places like that huge campus of hospital buildings above.  I don't know if there exist any such corporate or hospital campuses that aren't dead zones, but I haven't seen one.  I am of the opinion that cars ruin everything, but it's not because of the garages.  We just need to require if they're on an urban street they need to address it property.  I really would like to see the DT library's parking get some retail spaces embedded in the ground floor facing onto Commerce at least.  I think it could be done. 

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That particular section of Third Ave was not always like that. The store fronts were often vacant or they were Loan Companies. In the case of Loan companies I would rather they just be vacant store fronts as all they are is legal loan sharks that prey on the poor. It has changed a lot for the better over the past 15 years.

A lot of the activation of these streets depends on foot traffic. You do have to remember the area on Hayes is a mile and a half outside the core, however if there is enough foot traffic, then garage fronts can be converted to retail as the garage on the East side of 5th Ave N across from the Central Church of Christ.

For this to work there has to be a critical mass of residential near by for a customer base. These types of street activations are really cool if they are done correctly but most of the time you only see a lot of this in much older, larger cities like NYC, Chicago and Philly.

 

I agree it would be nice but probably will not happen in my lifetime.

 

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Benchmark Sound Studio, which for many decades was known as Emerald Sound Studios, at 1033 16th Ave. South, has hit the market for $3.4 million.  It is on a .32 acre parcel.  Many artists including Johnny Cash, Olivia Newtown-John, Eddie Rabbitt, George Strait, Alabama, Brooks & Dunn, Steven Tyler, Reba McEntire, Josh Turner Michael Bolton,  Foreigner, Bon Jovi, Steve Winwood,  and Lynyrd Skynyrd recorded there since it was originally opened in 1981.  

Sad to see more and more of these studios dwindling away---but if there simply isn't enough business to pay the bills anymore, there's not much that can be done.  Perhaps an entrepreneur will either start buying up these landmarks for museums honoring the heritage of Music Row...or at least buy the sound boards, some of the equipment, furniture, photos on the wall, framed gold/platinum albums, etc. for a Nashville Recording Studio Museum.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21013326/famed-music-row-property-hits-market-for-34m

 

 

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^^Have done work in Benchmark / Emerald for many years.  It's Lee Greenwood's old studio.  Bathrooms have emerald green toilets and sinks with gold fixtures.  Odd but kinda neat, too.

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The building that housed Provence Breads & Cafe at 1705 21st Ave. South in Hillsboro Village is for sale for an undisclosed price.

The approximately 4,340-square-foot brick building was constructed in the 1920. The parcel includes a small surface parking lot positioned behind the building and running along the north side of the structured home to the Belcourt Theatre.

Years ago, the building was home to the Hillsboro Pharmacy, which offered a soda fountain, magazine racks and carhops taking orders at the curb.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21014178/hillsboro-village-building-last-home-to-provence-hits-market
 

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