Inside 440 - Berry Hill, Midtown, Vanderbilt, 12S, WeHo, Fairgrounds, etc.

[12Mouth]

3 hours ago, titanhog said:

I'm always torn about Vandy buying up public retail spots and expanding their footprint.  They normally build something nice architecturally...but I'm just hopeful the retail will be abundant and it won't  be another part of their university with no public usage.

This will be different from any development you have seen from them. Imagine a really nice mixed use development that just happens to be on land owned by vandy and is housing vandy grad students. 

[titanhog]

56 minutes ago, 12Mouth said:

This will be different from any development you have seen from them. Imagine a really nice mixed use development that just happens to be on land owned by vandy and is housing vandy grad students. 

Yes...I'm hoping the "public" portion of it is worthy of that much land.  Fingers crossed.  I know it will look nice...but hoping for some good retail. 

[12Mouth]

I’m not sure that it has been finalized, but the retail that I’ve heard floated would be huge for midtown.

[East Side Urbanite]

Target?

[bmkTN]

When he said there would be a grocery store, my thought was "They don't need a 'grocery store,' they need an urban Target!"  I guess time will tell.  Target does like placing most of their urban stores very close to college campuses, so this could definitely fit the bill.

[BnaBreaker]

This seems strange to say given the fact that we've had essentially zero full service groceries in the CBD/Midtown area to this point, but I kinda feel like we are covered on the grocery store front for the time being in this part of town.  I can think of at least three U/C or in the works.  So I agree.  Stores that offer different services like urban versions of Target or TJ Maxx or Lowe's would be more in demand, I would think.

Edited May 18, 2019 by BnaBreaker

[smeagolsfree]

Just got back from Chicago and it seems as if I ran across 5 or 6 urban Targets. They seem to have the corner on urban stores over Wal-Hell.

[thenorthchannel]

16 hours ago, BnaBreaker said:

This seems strange to say given the fact that we've had essentially zero full service groceries in the CBD/Midtown area to this point, but I kinda feel like we are covered on the grocery store front for the time being in this part of town.  I can think of at least three U/C or in the works.  So I agree.  Stores that offer different services like urban versions of Target or TJ Maxx or Lowe's would be more in demand, I would think.

Funny you say that. This story is from earlier this week.   At least 5 new grocery stores are slated to open.

 

https://www.tennessean.com/story/money/2019/05/13/nashville-grocery-wars-intensify-new-stores-publix-whole-foods-aldi-trader-joes-turnip-truck-way/1120613001/

[BnaBreaker]

2 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

Just got back from Chicago and it seems as if I ran across 5 or 6 urban Targets. They seem to have the corner on urban stores over Wal-Hell.

And another one U/C not far away from me in Logan Square.

[dragonfly]

14 hours ago, smeagolsfree said:

Just got back from Chicago and it seems as if I ran across 5 or 6 urban Targets. They seem to have the corner on urban stores over Wal-Hell.

OK you guys live in a large metro, I live in a very large metro. You want to be a convert to Walmart, buy a piece of property somewhere on the Olympic Peninsula of WA like what I have. These people (the locals) absolutely depend upon Walmart.  It is like a godsend, hell, my a--. It saves them many hours per week from having to travel long distances, just to make it thru the weeks. Target cares not a whit for these people living in those counties. I know this may be off topic, but as a property owner with  3 living spaces in two buildings on Harstine Island, I'm one of those people when I'm there, 19 miles from the Shelton Walmart, and I need every amenity and all the help I can get to maintain and remediate that property. I can go at midnight for something needed urgently, and the Supercenters out there have expanded hardware and paint to help people like me. I went one night to buy a desperately needed space heater for $18.95 and I would have paid 4x that amount. Yeah living in a comfy urban pad where I'm at I would never have otherwise learned this without personal experience.  There are many things in the world city dwellers maybe know little about.

Edited May 20, 2019 by dragonfly

[BnaBreaker]

3 minutes ago, dragonfly said:

OK you guys live in a large metro, I live in a very large metro. You want to be a convert to Walmart, buy a piece of property somewhere on the Olympic Peninsula of WA like what I have. These people (the locals) absolutely depend upon Walmart.  It is like a godsend. It saves them many hours per week from having to travel long distances, just to make it thru the weeks. Target cares not a whit for these people living in those counties. I know this may be off topic, but as a property owner with 7.5 acres and 3 living spaces in two buildings on Harstine Island, I'm one of those people when I'm there, 19 miles from the Shelton Walmart, and I need every amenity and all the help I can get to maintain and remediate that property. I can go at midnight for something needed urgently, and the Supercenters out there have expanded hardware and paint to help people like me. I went one night to buy a desperately needed space heater for $18.95 and I would have paid 4x that amount. Yeah living in a comfy urban pad where I'm at I would never have otherwise learned this without personal experience.  There are many things in the world city dwellers know little about.

Mkay... 

[Jamie Hall]

On 5/19/2019 at 7:18 AM, smeagolsfree said:

Just got back from Chicago and it seems as if I ran across 5 or 6 urban Targets. They seem to have the corner on urban stores over Wal-Hell.

How much square footage does an urban-style Target need compared to the traditional surburban store? 

Edited May 20, 2019 by Jamie Hall

[smeagolsfree]

My guess is that some of the ones I saw in Chicago were in the range of 40 to 50 k SQ FT. maybe a little more. Most were two levels. The new Urban Target model suggest like a 18,000 sq. ft. store.

[donNdonelson2]

Arlington, Virginia’s Rosslyn Target is about 20,000 according to the article linked below.

https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/08/01/washington-dc-big-box-chain-stores-mini-target-arlington-bethesda/

[smeagolsfree]

Ive been to that store too. Its a small one. 

[donNdonelson2]

23 minutes ago, smeagolsfree said:

Ive been to that store too. Its a small one. 

Originally proposed with the name Target Express. It IS small.

[PruneTracy]

On ‎2019‎-‎05‎-‎19 at 7:18 AM, smeagolsfree said:

Just got back from Chicago and it seems as if I ran across 5 or 6 urban Targets. They seem to have the corner on urban stores over Wal-Hell.

Walmart couldn't even keep open the location that was literally in the middle of UTK's campus.

[PillowTalk4]

This is the Target in Fairfax, VA also outside of Washington, DC.  It's part of one of those urban-suburban town centers called the Mosaic District that has shopping, dinning, entertainment, apartments, etc.    I would so love to see something similar to this project built where the auto stores are Broadway.  And, add in BBB, Home Goods, Marshalls, Nordstrom Rack, etc.  Of course I'd prefer such a venue for Nashville be topped off with high rise residential and commercial offices.  What's really cool is they offer free parking in multiple buildings as opposed to doing surface parking all around the area.  The surface lots are pretty much part of older facilities that previously existed in the area.

[PillowTalk4]

 

On 5/19/2019 at 8:18 AM, smeagolsfree said:

Just got back from Chicago and it seems as if I ran across 5 or 6 urban Targets. They seem to have the corner on urban stores over Wal-Hell.

 

1 hour ago, PruneTracy said:

Walmart couldn't even keep open the location that was literally in the middle of UTK's campus.

Target is based in the upper mid-west, so they've always had a stronger foothold in that region over WM.... oh, let me not call it WM, that almost sounds upscale... LOL! 

Target has a mini-store on the campus of the University of Maryland in College Park, MD that seems to be doing well.  It's on the street level of an apartment building on the campus.  It includes a CVS pharmacy.  It's actually pretty cool.

[e-dub]

2 hours ago, PruneTracy said:

Walmart couldn't even keep open the location that was literally in the middle of UTK's campus.

The one close to the Publix? It's closed now?

[PruneTracy]

2 hours ago, e-dub said:

The one close to the Publix? It's closed now?

It's gone, son.

http://www.utdailybeacon.com/city_news/goodbye-walmart-university-commons-store-to-close-in-march/article_5dce422c-3abd-11e9-92b8-3365666b205a.html

I'd like to take a moment to point out how many UT students and alumni are distraught over "their" Walmart closing when it was only there for four years to begin with. One guy wrote a song about it.

Millennials.

[e-dub]

In my 18 months in Knoxville (a terrible 1.5 years, I might add) I went to that Publix numerous times but never to the WalMart.

[markhollin]

Vanderbilt University Frat Row updates.

Rendering of Kensington Place:

2411 and 2413 Kensington Place.  Looking SW from intersection of Kensington Place and 24th Ave. South:

Kappa Sigma House.  Looking NW from intersection of 24th Ave. South and Vanderbilt Place:

Lambda Chi Alpha House.  Looking east from 24th Ave. South, 1/2 block north of Vanderbilt Place:

[markhollin]

"How Nashville plans to save music Row, a threatened cultural treasure.  As the city's boom puts development pressure on the center of country music, new preservation ideas emerge."

https://www.curbed.com/2019/5/21/18633057/nashville-real-estate-preservation-music-row-cultural-district?fbclid=IwAR3PsB-VkXZlGWAZ9pt2oLh5V9DCHj31Wylk7Cq_ae79IdkN_TlFq4dagTA

[donNdonelson2]

Here is a tease from Facebook about upcoming news regarding the addition of fountains at the Musica statue on the Music Row Roundabout.