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56 minutes ago, Nathan_in_the_UK said:

Agreed...seems to be a very fake, Disney Main Street sort of thing. Incongruous with the neighborhood, too.

And they sit like twenty feet off the street for some reason, which totally takes away from the 'traditional rowhome' aesthetic they were trying to create.

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17 hours ago, BnaBreaker said:

And they sit like twenty feet off the street for some reason, which totally takes away from the 'traditional rowhome' aesthetic they were trying to create.

16 hours ago, Nathan_in_the_UK said:

That's it. I couldn't quite put my finger on what was so jarring about them, but that's exactly it.

The setback is in lieu of an 8' furnishing zone between the back of curb and sidewalk as shown in the Major and Collector Street Plan.

In any case I am not sure many people want to live in a townhose five to eight feet away from a major road like Harding Pike.

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23 minutes ago, PruneTracy said:

The setback is in lieu of an 8' furnishing zone between the back of curb and sidewalk as shown in the Major and Collector Street Plan.

In any case I am not sure many people want to live in a townhose five to eight feet away from a major road like Harding Pike.

Perhaps not, but I think that is part of the reason why it has that 'movie set' feel.  

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The design of the West End row homes is mainly to placate the neighborhood that fought for years to have only single homes on single lots. I imagine the developers would have loved a 20 story tower of glass and steel. 
A lot of these potential buyers are leaving a big traditional house on a big lot and don’t want sleek and modern sameness. They aren’t my taste either but I know a lot of folks for whom they are.

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Previous posts .... right on!!! But I believe this project should have resembled the townhouses across W.E. and down a little (to the west) with the wall and courtyard. Even the materials for that project surpass this one. But no wonder the developer saw an opportunity to squeeze as many units as possible into the area they had at their disposal. More than any other project, this one illustrates just how much Nashville is NO LONGER the smallish-city-trying-to-be-big.  What I mean by that.... it's a prominent site... a mediocre development... and fairly overlooked in this day... whereas 30 years ago, it would have been looked at as a guide in the way development along West End (and the city overall) should be done.  

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Vanderbilt Univ. Graduate Village (7 & 11 stories, 600 units, 25,000 sq. ft. of retail) update.  All structures razed.  Digging equipment on site.

Looking SW from intersection of Broadway and Lyle Ave:

Vandy Graduate Village, Nov 3, 2019, 1.jpg


Looking west from intersection of Broadway and Lyle Ave:

Vandy Graduate Village, Nov 3, 2019, 2.jpg


Looking north from intersection of Broadway and Lyle Ave:

Vandy Graduate Village, Nov 3, 2019, 3.jpg


Manuel House coming down 9 days ago (may it R.I.P.):

Vandy Graduate Village, Nov 3, 2019, 4.png


Looking NE from intersection of  20th Ave. South and Broadway at remnants of Manuel House and equipment poised for excavation:

Vandy Graduate Village, Nov 3, 2019, 5.jpg

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23 hours ago, PruneTracy said:

The setback is in lieu of an 8' furnishing zone between the back of curb and sidewalk as shown in the Major and Collector Street Plan.

In any case I am not sure many people want to live in a townhose five to eight feet away from a major road like Harding Pike.

Yeah, I think the real dissonant thing about this design is the "stroad" phenomenon, of which the large setback is just a symptom. You can't really design a streetscape for people *and* for high-speed, high-throughput vehicle traffic. It's like putting a sidewalk beside the interstate. It will never feel comfortable to walk out your front door or stroll down a sidewalk when you're a couple of feet away from 4,000 lb vehicles flying by at 60 mph. Until West End gets reworked to slow down the cars (narrower lanes, more intersections, etc.) they might as well focus their pedestrian efforts a block away, i.e. on Richland.

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@jtmonk I thought pretty hard about my statement that I think Nashville have more 10 story or higher buildings under construction than all of NC.  

  • Charlotte: ~8
  • Raleigh: 2
  • Durham: 2
  • Wilmington: 2
  • Greensboro: 1
  • Winston-Salem: 0

TN

  • Knoxville: 0
  • Chatt: 0
  • Tri-cities: 0
  • Memphis: 1 or 2 (if you count the casino hotel , which seems to have started)

So, I'm not starting one of those us versus them threads, I'm just pointing out how incredible the Nashville building boom is.   I think if you add up all the 10 story or greater buildings in NC, SC, and TN (outside of Nashville), then Nashville still has more underway!

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The Nashville project I'm most excited about is 4 stories... the Stockyards project. I actually prefer the low rise residential density of Germantown/Salemtown over the towers of SoBro. Likewise, I far prefer the low rise Hillsboro Village area to the towers surrounding the Vandy campus. 

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3 hours ago, jtmonk said:

Nashville definitely has a lot going for it right now, all the construction going on is amazing and definitely something to envy.   To say that it has more 10+ story buildings than all of the cities in NC put together might be a little bit of an overstatement though.   I do believe Nashville has more 10+ story buildings currently under construction than Charlotte right now but it's not by much.   I will say that the amount of growth and construction Nashville, Charlotte, and RDU are seeing right now is amazing and something we should all be proud of.   I definitely think the quality of construction you guys are getting is a little better than other cities.  

Not sure how many Charlotte has, but my quick count shows that Nashville has 18 10+ story buildings under construction, not including the 2nd Amazon tower or Drury hotel. 

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