Davidson Southeast: Antioch, Century Farms, East of Brentwood

[markhollin]

I believe another residential project is going in at 1240 2nd Ave. South, just to the south of Dwell Lofts.

Looking east from 2nd Ave. South, 1/2 block north of Hart St:

[markhollin]

Alina (formerly Olympic 1, 5 stories, 50 condos) update.

Looking NW from Olympic St., 1/2 block west of 8th Ave. South:

Looking NE from Olympic St., 1/2 block east of 9th Ave. South:

Looking west from 8th Ave. South, 1/2 block north of Olympic St:

[LA_TN]

Waterleaf at Antioch Apartments

- 2901 Old Franklin Road
- 364-unit Class A residential project
- set to be delivered in spring 2021
- Graycliff Capital Development
- $39.1 million construction loan from CIBC
- 18-acre development site
- plans call for eight three-story and two four-story residential buildings with studios and one- to three-bedroom units, ranging between 612 and 1,243 square feet
- The project also features four carriage house residential buildings with attached parking. Amenities at the upcoming community are set to include a fitness center, an outdoor cabana with fireplace, a swimming pool, a dog spa, a clubhouse, electric vehicle charging stations and a cafe with coworking space
 

Just getting started...

[LA_TN]

TriStar stand-alone ER

[LA_TN]

Century Farms update:

Cane Ridge Ridge Rd at Old Franklin Rd. One of two roundabouts will be placed where the track hoe is located (farthest away) connecting Cane Ridge Rd to Century Farms Parkway (the road through the rock cut)

Century Farms Parkway

Cane Ridge Parkway

Century Farms Parkway

William Turner Parkway approaching Century Farms Parkway (looking towards downtown...do you see Batman?)

William Turner Parkway at Century Farms Parkway. This will be a half SPUI (single-point urban interchange) with Century Farms Parkway and direct connection to/from I-24 East through underneath the bridge/SPUI

View of the William Turner Parkway cut that will lead to I-24. This is where the SPUI bridge will be located

This view is looking the opposite direction, down William Turner Parkway

The bridge is the on-ramp from Hickory Hollow Parkway to I-24 East, underneath is the the off-ramp from I-24 East to William Turner Parkway (will go underneath Century Farms Parkway), and the foreground will become the on-ramp from William Turner Parkway to I-24 East

View of the Hickory Hollow interchange with I-24 from the Century Farms Parkway side. Century Farms Parkway will continue as Hickory Hollow Parkway past I-24

View of the Hickory Hollow interchange with I-24 from the Hickory Hollow side. This will be the first DDI (diverging diamond interchange) in the metro Nashville area. There will be 6 travel lanes plus bike lanes and sidewalks on each side

Tanger Outlets site (Q3 start)

Eakin Office site (pics take from above Ford Ice Center)

Site prep between Century Farms Parkway and William Turner Parkway

Rock piles 1-3 are each topped out at 2 stories tall. Left to right: Stony, Crush, and Aggy 

And finally, the view of downtown from 11.3 miles away (now can you see Batman?)

[titanhog]

^^If this turns out really nice, I hope it will spark a total re-do of the Hickory Hollow mall area.

[LA_TN]

TDK residential project

Construction has started

[MLBrumby]

Too bad John Eakin is developing the office component. A few very nice looking office buildings on that ridge with some nice architectural detail would be a nice welcome 'gate' to Nashville from the SE.  But he'll build a short stubby box there like usual. The building already there is simply hideous. Fortunately, there will be a lot of fast food joints surrounding that one. 

Edited April 8, 2020 by MLBrumby

[LA_TN]

24 minutes ago, MLBrumby said:

Too bad John Eakin is developing the office component. A few very nice looking office buildings on that ridge with some nice architectural detail would be a nice welcome 'gate' to Nashville from the SE.  But he'll build a short stubby box there like usual. The building already there is simply hideous. Fortunately, there will be a lot of fast food joints surrounding that one. 

Currently, the only office building in Century Farms is the CHS building, which is brick, and there will not be any fast food restaurants near it. The space just to the right of the existing building is reserved for a second (CHS) building

FYI, Eakin has been encouraged to 'think bigger' because his first proposal was a couple of office buildings that were far less than the 10 story zoning that is in place

[PaulChinetti]

Good lord look at all that surface parking. I know it's cheaper but man what an eyesore and it just makes all the buildings seem like they are islands in a sea of asphalt.

[BnaBreaker]

5 hours ago, PaulChinetti said:

Good lord look at all that surface parking. I know it's cheaper but man what an eyesore and it just makes all the buildings seem like they are islands in a sea of asphalt.

Yeah, it's just grossly irresponsible, in my opinion.  These developers act like available land is just an infinite resource.  Obviously they're far from being alone in this style of development, but that doesn't make it excusable.  And just to preempt the inevitable, no, I'm not saying Antioch should look like downtown Nashville.  But they could've built two large centralized parking garages and probably cut down on the amount of land they have to use by two thirds, and also cut down  on the amount they had to spend to acquire the land, I would imagine.

Edited April 8, 2020 by BnaBreaker

[MLBrumby]

Agreed! Poor resource management, and it's not just the developers but it's their clients. CHS could have gone anywhere, including downtown but it appears to me they chose the cheap route. 

[ruraljuror]

2 hours ago, BnaBreaker said:

Yeah, it's just grossly irresponsible, in my opinion.  These developers act like available land is just an infinite resource.  Obviously they're far from being alone in this style of development, but that doesn't make it excusable.  And just to preempt the inevitable, no, I'm not saying Antioch should look like downtown Nashville.  But they could've built two large centralized parking garages and probably cut down on the amount of land they have to use by two thirds, and also cut down  on the amount they had to spend to acquire the land, I would imagine.

I think I disagree with you on this one, BNA.

I assume that the two hypothetical parking garages you mention would not in fact be cheaper than the additional land required to create these oceanic parking lots - otherwise the developers probably would've gone with the garages in the first place.  That is, unless the previous landowner was only willing to sell the plot as one giant parcel, in which case the economics would once again point to sprawling parking instead of garages.

You're right that land isn't infinite, but parking lots aren't permanent, and the developers retain the option to convert some of that land to parking garages (or more retail/hotel/office/residential with incorporated parking garages) at any point in the future. 

And what was there under these parking lots before they were leveled and paved over? I'm not sure that an island in a sea of crop fields or whatever is all that preferable to an island in a sea of asphalt, from a practicality standpoint anyway. 

Bottom line, something like this would be way out of place in Nashville of course, but I don't fault the developers for choosing this model for this location if that's what they determined their present economic conditions could support. 

 

 

Edited April 9, 2020 by ruraljuror

[PaulChinetti]

I find myself agreeing with you @BnaBreaker and you @ruraljuror I don’t know how I feel about that haha. Two sides noooooo

Must be because I turned 37 today. It’s all the wisdom (and whiskey) coursing through me, haha! 

[nashvylle]

14 minutes ago, PaulChinetti said:

I find myself agreeing with you @BnaBreaker and you @ruraljuror I don’t know how I feel about that haha. Two sides noooooo

Must be because I turned 37 today. It’s all the wisdom (and whiskey) coursing through me, haha! 

Happy birthday!

[BnaBreaker]

3 hours ago, PaulChinetti said:

I find myself agreeing with you @BnaBreaker and you @ruraljuror I don’t know how I feel about that haha. Two sides noooooo

Must be because I turned 37 today. It’s all the wisdom (and whiskey) coursing through me, haha! 

Happy birthday man!  I am a 37 year old whiskey lover myself... so maybe I will crack open that bottle of Macallan and have a drink in your honor... yes I am using you as a convenient excuse!   Haha

Edited April 9, 2020 by BnaBreaker

[BnaBreaker]

4 hours ago, ruraljuror said:

I think I disagree with you on this one, BNA.

I assume that the two hypothetical parking garages you mention would not in fact be cheaper than the additional land required to create these oceanic parking lots - otherwise the developers probably would've gone with the garages in the first place.  That is, unless the previous landowner was only willing to sell the plot as one giant parcel, in which case the economics would once again point to sprawling parking instead of garages.

You're right that land isn't infinite, but parking lots aren't permanent, and the developers retain the option to convert some of that land to parking garages (or more retail/hotel/office/residential with incorporated parking garages) at any point in the future. 

And what was there under these parking lots before they were leveled and paved over? I'm not sure that an island in a sea of crop fields or whatever is all that preferable to an island in a sea of asphalt, from a practicality standpoint anyway. 

Bottom line, something like this would be way out of place in Nashville of course, but I don't fault the developers for choosing this model for this location if that's what they determined their present economic conditions could support. 

 

 

You always lay down a succinct logic based argument my friend, and I respect that immensely.  I usually find it hard to really disagree with any of the points you make, and I can say the same in this instance. 

You're right that if it was a one plot take it or leave it sort of transaction then that changes the equation significantly.  I don't know, I realize I am just being idealistic here, but I just wish that if we as a society aren't going to discourage this type of development, that we could, at the very least, stop incentivizing it.  I guess I can't in good conscience blame cash strapped developers for taking the economic approach.  I just wish that paving over every tree and field as far as the eye can see in order to meet arbitrary parking space minimums didn't represent "the economic approach."

Edited April 9, 2020 by BnaBreaker

[markhollin]

2125 8th Ave. South will be a 4 story mixed-use structure on the thin .21 acre site of the same address.  The first floor will be be leased by Atlantic Union Bank's home loan division, and floors 2-4 will have 6 apartments, and will have a rooftop deck. Several years ago a 3 story iteration had been proposed.  Brendan Donelson is the developer and Root Arch is now the architect.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21127524/mixeduse-building-to-rise-near-zanies

 

This screen shot from Smeagolsfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in teal at the center of the frame:

[timmay143]

14 hours ago, PaulChinetti said:

I find myself agreeing with you @BnaBreaker and you @ruraljuror I don’t know how I feel about that haha. Two sides noooooo

Must be because I turned 37 today. It’s all the wisdom (and whiskey) coursing through me, haha! 

Welcome to the 37 club!

[ruraljuror]

On 4/8/2020 at 10:08 PM, BnaBreaker said:

You always lay down a succinct logic based argument my friend, and I respect that immensely.  I usually find it hard to really disagree with any of the points you make, and I can say the same in this instance. 

You're right that if it was a one plot take it or leave it sort of transaction then that changes the equation significantly.  I don't know, I realize I am just being idealistic here, but I just wish that if we as a society aren't going to discourage this type of development, that we could, at the very least, stop incentivizing it.  I guess I can't in good conscience blame cash strapped developers for taking the economic approach.  I just wish that paving over every tree and field as far as the eye can see in order to meet arbitrary parking space minimums didn't represent "the economic approach."

You raise a great point about how we're incentivizing these kinds of projects with below-cost transportation, infrastructure, and utilities support that play a big part in making this kind of project viable.  We're in complete agreement about that, and that's something we as a society should definitely address, which in turn would drastically change the economic models that currently make these kinds of developments possible.

[yontu2]

Site grading and drilling for Nashville Warehouse Company (4th and Chestnut)

[markhollin]

7 hours ago, yontu2 said:

Site grading and drilling for Nashville Warehouse Company (4th and Chestnut)

Thanks for the pics and welcome to the forum, yontu2!  : )

[yontu2]

Thanks for the pics and welcome to the forum, yontu2!  : )

Thanks! I’ve visited this forum for years while living in Nashville, moving away for eight years, and moving back about three years ago.

I didn’t see the water tower anywhere on the lot. I wonder if it has gone to wherever the guitar scoreboard is being stored.


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[markhollin]

2 hours ago, yontu2 said:

Thanks! I’ve visited this forum for years while living in Nashville, moving away for eight years, and moving back about three years ago.

I didn’t see the water tower anywhere on the lot. I wonder if it has gone to wherever the guitar scoreboard is being stored.
 

Welcome back to Smashville. 

In regards the the water tower, it is supposed to be erected again on the NW side of the property (the opposite corner) as a feature of the swimming pool.  These renderings show it:

 

[DMilner]

2 hours ago, markhollin said:

Welcome back to Smashville. 

In regards the the water tower, it is supposed to be erected again on the NW side of the property (the opposite corner) as a feature of the swimming pool.  These renderings show it:

 

Unfortunately, I heard the water tower is not happening. It had lead paint and would’ve cost a fortune to refinish.