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On 4/26/2019 at 11:01 AM, MLBrumby said:

Lots of good examples you've shown. I think that stretch of interstate being adjacent to the coveted Gulch and Midtown sections would make this idea especially feasible in a few years. I realize it's a stretch to assume that TDOT could get out of its own way, but if they could see the feasibility, they should start planning for that now. It would take 10-15 years to be a reality. I remember when the Robinson Humphrey's Financial Center was planned above GA400, and it took years to plan... and (surprisingly) not a long time to build in comparison. Of course, the funding for GA400 was all from tolls. 

Um, back on topic...

I've been wondering is there is some improvement needed to the interstates before we cap them.  I guess we could build a second level of I-65 to the east of downtown rather than the west.  If TDOT has a wish list of things they want to do to that stretch of I-40/I-65, would they delay capping until they had checked all the boxes on their list?

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Saw this article on News Channel 5 about the Downtown Antique Mall closing on May 31.  Did any of the other businesses in this triangle also get notices?  There was a posting here about the owner asking the city to condemn the street and two alleys so that it could combine the parcels.  Sounds like there is some movement here.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/on-the-rise/nashvilles-downtown-antique-mall-closing-after-nearly-30-years

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8 hours ago, Mr_Bond said:

Saw this article on News Channel 5 about the Downtown Antique Mall closing on May 31.  Did any of the other businesses in this triangle also get notices?  There was a posting here about the owner asking the city to condemn the street and two alleys so that it could combine the parcels.  Sounds like there is some movement here.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/on-the-rise/nashvilles-downtown-antique-mall-closing-after-nearly-30-years

The move to abandon the alleys was started abiut 6 months ago. I do think something is up, but I hope and think the buildings will not come down. The owner from my understanding loves the older buildings.

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On 4/26/2019 at 8:42 AM, Andy20 said:

The Atlanta Financial Center is a prime example of what we could do. Built right over Ga 400.

OK so I've driven under this several times. Appears like an actual bridge supports the edifice. Given that concrete bridges and overpasses last about 60 to 65 years, what does that mean for this structure?  I know that water damage, corrosion and fatigue from vibrations is much less than an actual traffic carrying bridge, but can anyone tell me how these factors into the future of this whole structure?

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On ‎2019‎-‎05‎-‎12 at 1:01 AM, dragonfly said:

OK so I've driven under this several times. Appears like an actual bridge supports the edifice. Given that concrete bridges and overpasses last about 60 to 65 years, what does that mean for this structure?  I know that water damage, corrosion and fatigue from vibrations is much less than an actual traffic carrying bridge, but can anyone tell me how these factors into the future of this whole structure?

Many highway overpasses have a definite shelf life only because it becomes cheaper to replace the bridge than to rehabilitate it. The cost-benefit ratio changes a bit when it's the foundation of a building.

I'm not familiar with the Atlanta Financial Center but it's also possible the building is designed such that the load is supported to the sides of the roadway (meaning the bridge/tunnel is only supporting the first few floors).

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I lived about a mile from there when it was built. I remember so many piers... probably 50-60. I'd bet that building could stand without the tunnel beneath it. 

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Colts Chocolates is moving from their home at 609 Overton St. in theGulch to a larger facility in the Inglwood neighborhood.  This will free up 10,000 sq. ft. of space for MarketStreet Enterprises immediately to the north of The James mixed-use development in the Gulch.  

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/food-business/article/21069051/colts-chocolates-to-leave-gulch-for-inglewood

 

609 Overton, the Gulch, May 16, 2019, site map 1.png

609 Overton, the Gulch, May 16, 2019, site map 2.png

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The Whisky Kitchen is moving over to 1126 McGavock St, to the space formerly held by Virago. Virago has recently reopened at 1120 McGavock.   This frees up the current Whiskey Kitchen building and surface lot at 188 12th Ave. South, which has been rumored for sale for quite some time. 

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/food-business/article/21070317/permit-patrol-28-may-2019

At one time the owners, M Street Entertainment Group, had mentioned they were looking at a 15 story boutique hotel for the site. They have since announced the Eleventh House Hotel (10 stories, 112 rooms) a block to the east. This is a prime spot of about 1/3 acre in the heart of The Gulch which should see some interesting action eventually. 

This screen shot from Smeagolsfree's excellent development map shows the site highlighted in gray at the center of the frame:


 

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The 1.28 acre site at 645 Division St. (former Myers Carpet site) in the Gulch is being sold by Tim Reynolds for $13 million to an unidentified NYC-based development company. The deal is supposed to be finalized by year's end. Reynolds had paid $8.9 million for it just 10 months ago. No word on what the developers have in mind.  Up to 16 stories is allowed by Metro's bonus height program.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21070521/local-investor-has-gulch-site-under-contract
 

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What in the world is it without the "bonus height"??

How often do developers go in and argue for more height and how often are they successful?

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2 minutes ago, PaulChinetti said:

What in the world is it without the "bonus height"??

How often do developers go in and argue for more height and how often are they successful?

in NYC, if you do Inclusionary Housing, you get bonus height. I know state legislators banned IH here, however. 

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I’m pretty sure that bonus height is almost always granted. I am personally sick and tired of height restrictions close to the core. Small town thinking to have height restrictions in sobro and the gulch 

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Just now, subkyle said:

I’m pretty sure that bonus height is almost always granted. I am personally sick and tired of height restrictions close to the core. Small town thinking to have height restrictions in sobro and the gulch 

I understand height restrictions if there is a certain vibe/atmosphere you're trying to preserve.  But outside of Germantown/Salemtown there are literally no areas inside the inner loop that aren't already a highrise district that is anything more than empty dirt lots and aluminum warehouses.  So what is it they're trying to achieve with these height restrictions in places like SoBro or south Gulch?   It makes no sense.  

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The height restrictions were put into place with the hope that we'd build a larger number of dense low and mid-rises rather than scattershot high-rises with huge swaths of underutilized land in-between.

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7 hours ago, markhollin said:

The Whisky Kitchen is moving over to 1126 McGavock St, to the space formerly held by Virago. Virago has recently reopened at 1120 McGavock.   This frees up the current Whiskey Kitchen building and surface lot at 188 12th Ave. South, which has been rumored for sale for quite some time. 

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/food-business/article/21070317/permit-patrol-28-may-2019
 

So did one of the other restaurants close? Or did they use unused space? 

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2 hours ago, Rockatansky said:

The height restrictions were put into place with the hope that we'd build a larger number of dense low and mid-rises rather than scattershot high-rises with huge swaths of underutilized land in-between.

That made sense when Nashville was growing the way it used to grow. Now with all of the development and more on the way, it no longer makes sense.

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21 hours ago, markhollin said:

The 1.28 acre site at 645 Division St. (former Myers Carpet site) in the Gulch is being sold by Tim Reynolds for $13 million to an unidentified NYC-based development company. The deal is supposed to be finalized by year's end. Reynolds had paid $8.9 million for it just 10 months ago. No word on what the developers have in mind.  Up to 16 stories is allowed by Metro's bonus height program.

More behind the Nashville Post paywall here:

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/article/21070521/local-investor-has-gulch-site-under-contract
 

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Isn’t this the site where someone wanted to put the guitar shaped building? Does mean we might actually get a decent project here now? (It’s going to be the first thing you see when driving up from south of town on I-65)

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