Legacy Union (former Charlotte Observer redevelopment)

[KJHburg]

^^^ Yes for the parking garage on the block closer to the stadium. Today cloudy and ground view shots. 

[NcSc74]

Wish the city would ask to keep Mt. Tryon.  Would make for a good perch to people watch.

[Hunted]

Mt. Stonewall?

[QClifer]

Mt Stonewall is racist though,  never once did I even think that related to Stonewall Jackson in the 33 years Ive lived here, first time I heard it was 6 months or so ago when the news started rumbling about it. Maybe Im just an idiot or didnt think that far past just being a street name

[Dale]

Exhibiting on Mint today, right in front of the stadium, afforded an indication of how vast this complex is going to become.

[End_The_Sprawl]

Not sure if anyone else posted this, but you can start to see it poking above the stands at certain angles.

 

[KJHburg]

This is a great shot taken by the webcam this evening at  sunset. The sky is beautiful. 

Edited December 31, 2017 by KJHburg

[NCMike1990]

The facade is now going up on the webcam side.

 

Edited December 31, 2017 by NCMike1990
Adding photo

[KJHburg]

Today the BOAT at Legacy.  Facade rising too. 

[DEnd]

 

On 12/22/2017 at 3:55 PM, DMann said:

probably a stupid question, but how do they decide where to start putting the facade?

 

On 12/24/2017 at 11:06 AM, tarhoosier said:

I "think" what he means is how do these professionals decide where and when to place the outer skin. When to start. If to go at a certain date, or to follow other construction sequences, as time allows? The façade carries no weight thus is independent of structural issues so how is the timing of placement made? Is it particular to each project? When machinery is available, space for storage of panels, etc.?

Basically it's decided by crane time.  There is a lot more to it than just crane time, but in the beginning they don't want to risk slow downs in erecting the structure due to waiting on the crane, but after a few months the crews really get the hang of the building so they know what, where, and when they are going to need something, so the crane becomes more available for other lifts than just structural.  A lot of those other lifts are for things other than the facade that need to go in first.  Near topping out then the facade takes on more precedence since the quicker they can get it "dried in" then the quicker they can pay off contractors, and the quicker they can transition the construction loan to a mortgage.  They do have set dates at the beginning of construction for most of this stuff, but planning a large construction project is like planning a war, the plans are great right up until you make first contact, then conditions on the ground dictate what happens.  So do they start the facade at a certain date, or to follow other construction sequences, or as time allows? The answer is all of the above.  Since very rarely are two high rises the same, the timing tends to be particular to each project, but experienced project managers tend to have a decent-ish feel for how long stuff is going to take.

[KJHburg]

Legacy today lots of work being done on both blocks.  Tower up to 13th working on 14th floor.  Love seeing this go up and can't wait to see the other pieces come together. 

[KJHburg]

A few more on my walk back from lunch today notice the crane action and couple of the 2nd block through the fence. 

[SydneyCarton]

This looks impressive already.

 

Are the third and fifth photos of a garage that's under construction or did they start another tower?

Edited January 5, 2018 by SydneyCarton

[KJHburg]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

This looks impressive already.

 

Are the third and fifth photos of a garage that's under construction or did they start another tower?

Thats the huge garage on the 2nd block that will serve the tower and other buildings I think.  Because of the slope the entrance from S Church will be a couple of floors up from the bottom.  

[SydneyCarton]

54 minutes ago, KJHburg said:

Thats the huge garage on the 2nd block that will serve the tower and other buildings I think.  Because of the slope the entrance from S Church will be a couple of floors up from the bottom.  

Thanks.  That's what I thought.  Hopefully, some of the other towers on this site will start soon.

[Guest]

Thanks.  That's what I thought.  Hopefully, some of the other towers on this site will start soon.

Nothing has been submitted to the planning dept beyond the office tower and parking deck. So nothing is starting soon. Soon as something gets submitted one of us people who watch the planning site religiously will let everyone know. Lol


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[SydneyCarton]

Thanks, Rick.

I remember that you said the smaller office tower was being advertised so I wondered if maybe it had a tenant already.

In terms of Duke, is it still basically a box with an M-shaped top or has the design evolved?

Edited January 6, 2018 by SydneyCarton

[Dale]

Still can't see it from Crown Point in Matthews.

[KJHburg]

Today misty and still rising and more and more of the facade.  

Mr Harris: Please make room for a small McDonalds on the back side of your project, a national tenant that will pay the rent Just a suggestion. 

One more 

[NCMike1990]

Parking deck crane going up!

The lower tower crane is being raised as well.

Edited January 14, 2018 by NCMike1990

[JoshuaDrown]

Question, purely for our speculation... I was wondering how the remaining development on this site will be affected by the Panther’s stadium relocation uncertainties? I imagine the development facing Mint St would look far different if it wasn’t abutting an NFL stadium. This has to be hurting or at least causing pause for any plans for those remaining spots, no?

*Picture is from this weekend  

[Guest]

1 hour ago, JoshuaDrown said:

Question, purely for our speculation... I was wondering how the remaining development on this site will be affected by the Panther’s stadium relocation uncertainties? I imagine the development facing Mint St would look far different if it wasn’t abutting an NFL stadium. This has to be hurting or at least causing pause for any plans for those remaining spots, no?

*Picture is from this weekend  

I think its having minimal to moderate impact. BofA is an island and the only places directly affected by the possibility of it moving is those that cater to entertaining that island after people leave it, and before people go to it. Legacy Union isn't conceived to be another Epicentre. The portion facing the stadium was always planned to be residential with street level retail, not something that directly is affected by BofA Stadium. The Stadium leaving uptown might indirectly affect the area for the fact that it would remove one more sellable/marketable asset uptown. I don't think it would directly affect any development, just maybe indirectly. Bofa Stadium isn't driving development uptownn, institutional investment, a strong job market and a growing population is driving development uptown.

Edited January 17, 2018 by Guest

[JoshuaDrown]

27 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

The portion facing the stadium was always planned to be residential with street level retail, not something that directly is affected by BofA Stadium

Even though there are only 12 or so active dates a year at BoA Stadium, I feel like that potential residential and retail fronting Mint becomes significantly less interesting if we find out the stadium is going away... the stadium is the only thing making that part of Mint interesting. Though this is a bad analogy, the empty stadium functions almost like public art, it is something interesting to look at, or like a church, where people come to on a pilgrimage. 

Wouldn’t the retail be on a significantly worse island without the stadium? I suppose in time the BoA site would provide an impressive blank canvas...

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, JoshuaDrown said:

Even though there are only 12 or so active dates a year at BoA Stadium, I feel like that potential residential and retail fronting Mint becomes significantly less interesting if we find out the stadium is going away... the stadium is the only thing making that part of Mint interesting. Though this is a bad analogy, the empty stadium functions almost like public art, it is something interesting to look at, or like a church, where people come to on a pilgrimage. 

Wouldn’t the retail be on a significantly worse island without the stadium? I suppose in time the BoA site would provide an impressive blank canvas...

33 acres of blank canvas.

[SydneyCarton]

I find it hard to believe that there will be a new stadium.   Since every major city has a team, where could new owners threaten to go?  London or Mexico?  I don't think that's viable.

Edited January 17, 2018 by SydneyCarton