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I guess the question now is will be there a formal announcement soon with the bank anchor tenant revealed? 

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So I think this new?? 2 retail spaces accessible from the office lobby. The one is HUGE, how is that going to work with lobby only access?

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1 hour ago, Jayvee said:

It's gotten better looking. 656' is the final height.

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Are those people on a balcony in the "Church Street Elevation Enlarged?" Is there a retail tenant on a higher floor? Restaurant? Or just office tenant amenity? 

33 Floors seems like too few for a height of 656' doesn't it? Hearst tower is 47 floors. Maybe the anchor tenant has some really tall employees. 

New renderings are a huge improvement. This is gonna be a great addition to the skyline. 

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32 minutes ago, Jayvee said:

So I think this new?? 2 retail spaces accessible from the office lobby. The one is HUGE, how is that going to work with lobby only access?

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They actually listened to my critisms in my article and fixed a lot of stuff.

There is a lot of information in the RTAPs that is interesting. 

The most interesting is the “Podium” that faces Hill street previously had an architectural feature on top that capped it off. Now they have removed the “cap” and placed a “future development area” that would be connecting to the small parking deck there. They have also included the text “future multi use building” so they’ve made it clear that “podium” will be built on top of. 

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Also interesting, they have eliminated all the entrances to the tower except Church and Tryon, meaning the uses along Stonewall will have nothing to do with this building, aka more space for street front retail. 

Here is before and after

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Apparently, I'm in the minority (I still hate it, now only slightly less as the additional height definitely helps).  If they removed/replaced the beige concrete panels, it would be much better.  I also hate the way that the pyramid sits on the top.  It feels poorly sized and integrated with the rest of the building.  It doesn't look glassier to me but I must be missing something.  F+.

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Also keep in mind LS3P has awkward and misrepresenting renderings. Look at how much better 300 S Tryon turned out, and the Marriott...they have an awkward style. 

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4 minutes ago, JBS said:

Apparently, I'm in the minority (I still hate it, now only slightly less as the additional height definitely helps).  If they removed/replaced the beige concrete panels, it would be much better.  I also hate the way that the pyramid sits on the top.  It feels poorly sized and integrated with the rest of the building.  It doesn't look glassier to me but I must be missing something.  F+.

I think they need to add in a step between parapet and pyramid, like this. But probably glass instead of Stucco

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1 minute ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

I think they need to add in a step between parapet and pyramid, like this.

That is remarkably better (aside from more beige).  

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6 minutes ago, atlrvr said:

Just a quibble...but looking at the new elevations in Accela, I'm seeing 632'.

Both numbers are stated in the document, but I agree with the 632' based on the elevations.

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7 minutes ago, atlrvr said:

Just a quibble...but looking at the new elevations in Accela, I'm seeing 632'.

I saw that too, but the site details page says 656' and I like that number more

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I suspect the 656', includes the underground levels, while the 632' is the Tryon St frontage elevation above grade.  Also looks like there is a retail stall along Church St between the lobby and Hill St that will mask the service area...not sure if that was in the original, but seems pretty sweet.

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9 minutes ago, atlrvr said:

I suspect the 656', includes the underground levels, while the 632' is the Tryon St frontage elevation above grade.  Also looks like there is a retail stall along Church St between the lobby and Hill St that will mask the service area...not sure if that was in the original, but seems pretty sweet.

Yep, that was there before. 

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Think this is going to be a very classy tower when all is said and done.  The presence it will having driving on 277 will be insane I think.  And with this height/location, it's not just adding density, this will change the dynamic of the skyline.

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^Awesome!  Seems like a perfect location to make that outdoor balcony space, an observation deck for the public. You would have incredible views of the entire skyline, BOA stadium, and killer sunset views.  One can wish lol

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Excited for this project, but feel it will accentuate the bookend nature of our skyline. DEC/620 on the south and BAC/Hearst to the north. 

Not necessarily a bad thing. I may be ready to see BAC finally lose its crown and watch CLT's new tallest rise somewhere in the middle. 

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1 minute ago, NCpride said:

Excited for this project, but feel it will accentuate the bookend nature of our skyline. DEC/620 on the south and BAC/Hearst to the north. 

Not necessarily a bad thing. I may be ready to see BAC finally lose its crown and watch CLT's new tallest rise somewhere in the middle. 

Hope I didn't start anything. I have no insider knowledge, though obviously there are rumors attached to said parking lot.

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