Legacy Union (former Charlotte Observer redevelopment)

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[JorgiPorgi]

From Wesley Heights. 

[BullDurhamer]

On 8/10/2018 at 3:33 PM, Crucial_Infra said:

It's an homage to this Bull City masterpiece.

the tallest building in the city is by the former mall.  brilliant.

[Miesian Corners]

On 8/8/2018 at 4:00 PM, JBS said:

It will be hard to write this without sounding like an a-hole (that's never stopped me previously unfortunately).  This is the one project (beloved by so many) that has me completely perplexed.  There will always be differences of opinion on buildings.  This one is so obviously awful that I can't understand why some like it so much.  And, I'm worried about what the rest of the project will look like.  I'm assuming we will have a big slice of South Park Uptown with more height.  The design of this project is exactly what I would expect the 70 year old CEO to like and approve.  I'm just surprised so many of you agree with him.  This is one of the few projects (Skye Condos is another) where I would literally rather have an empty lot because I don't want to see this in skyline shots.  No offense intended, just hate this project.  

Everything you said. It's dreadful. Not as bad as the Stonewall Station apartments, but it's a close second.

[CLT704]

^ Following on from that, I personally think the materials and said materials perception are huge downfall. Design wise, the tower is meh but adds an interesting shaped flare to the skyline. Sand-blasted concrete just does not look good up close- although from a distance and in the right conditions (eg rain) it looks alright- and knowing that it uses cheap material warps our impression. 

Now, if this tower was being built with Portland stone (used for Buckingham Palace and the UN building) or similar, we would probably be hailing the use of high-quality materials, which in turn would boost our impressions of LU. 

Maybe y'all disagree but if Portland stone is good enough for Queen Liz then it is good enough for the Queen City. 

 

 

Edited August 13, 2018 by CLT704

[BullDurhamer]

i'm curious about the billion parking spaces.  gonna be weird in 15 years when the decks are sitting empty taking up prime space uptown.  

Edited August 13, 2018 by BullDurhamer

[J-Rob]

Warning: I am following the off-topic rabbit hole started above.  I don't buy that cars / parking decks are going away.  Sure, they may not be as full, but too many people like the convenience of having their own cars, and aren't going to want to fully rely on ride sharing autonomous cars, etc.  Also, the needed volume of transportation during rush hour will still be much more significant than volume needed throughout the day (non-rush hour), so there will still be a need for cars to park when they aren't in use.  Shoot, as an introvert, I avoid uber/lyft just because I don't want to have to carry a conversation or sit through the silence.  I much rather run out of my house when it is convenient to me, and listen to sports radio or podcasts on my way to work.  In that way, autonomous vehicle ride-sharing would be a different/more intimate vibe than mass transit in NYC, as an example, is currently.  Maybe there are fewer cars in 15 years, or more likely in 25 years, but people still need to get from point A to point B.  For the foreseeable future, cars will be the most common way to get from point A to point B, and cars still need to park.

Edited August 13, 2018 by J-Rob

[asthasr]

On 8/8/2018 at 4:00 PM, JBS said:

It will be hard to write this without sounding like an a-hole (that's never stopped me previously unfortunately).  This is the one project (beloved by so many) that has me completely perplexed.  There will always be differences of opinion on buildings.  This one is so obviously awful that I can't understand why some like it so much.  And, I'm worried about what the rest of the project will look like.  I'm assuming we will have a big slice of South Park Uptown with more height.  The design of this project is exactly what I would expect the 70 year old CEO to like and approve.  I'm just surprised so many of you agree with him.  This is one of the few projects (Skye Condos is another) where I would literally rather have an empty lot because I don't want to see this in skyline shots.  No offense intended, just hate this project.  

It's sad to me because this is most likely the most significant uptown tower of this cycle, in my opinion, and there are some truly breathtaking towers being built in this era... Chaoyang Park Plaza, Marina One, Lotte World Tower, Beijing Greenland, Guangzhou CTF, Mahanakhon. Of course we're not as big/significant as those cities, but at least they could've looked around to see what's being built instead of just taking a Ballantyne building and cloning it a few times vertically.

[NCMike1990]

Looking tall from the tower cam

 

 

 

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[jey_8888]

The pyramid on top better make it look good because it really changes the skyline from this angle ^^

[KulBC]

I know the '90's bar crawls are all the rage right now, but this building takes it too far. 

[Tyrone Wiggum]

10 hours ago, KulBC said:

I know the '90's bar crawls are all the rage right now, but this building takes it too far. 

The dream of the 90's is alive in Portland Charlotte

[CharlotteWkndBuzz]

Per the webcam, they are finishing the final floor before it's out of the frame (will they adjust the camera so we can watch the pyramid rise?).  Also, I'm not sure if they do or not, but think it would be cool for them to hang a giant Panthers flag from one of the cranes.

[Tyrone Wiggum]

On 8/12/2018 at 12:16 PM, BullDurhamer said:

the tallest building in the city is by the former mall.  brilliant.

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Edited August 14, 2018 by Tyrone Wiggum

[Tyrone Wiggum]

So, for all you LU design Stans out there, I've come across the only rendering that could have been worse than the present incarnation:

 

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1 hour ago, Tyrone Wiggum said:

So, for all you LU design Stans out there, I've come across the only rendering that could have been worse than the present incarnation:

 

Hmmm, I'm not so sure...

[Tyrone Wiggum]

1 hour ago, JBS said:

Hmmm, I'm not so sure...

I look forward to the day when the ugly ass soviet architecture of the two “whitish” buildings is swallowed by development that turns them into infill. Unfortunately, LU will stick out like a sore thumb for at least the rest of my natural life. 

The more I look at it the more Durm’s tallest looks like an ode to world war 1 helmets

[Nick2]

@Tyrone Wiggum I love having you on this site. 

A friend just recently snap chatted this new "bank of America building" and how it's blue glass is so pretty in the sunlight. I think the average person (and me) will like this project and it's impact on the skyline. 

[JorgiPorgi]

28 minutes ago, Tyrone Wiggum said:

I look forward to the day when the ugly ass soviet architecture of the two “whitish” buildings is swallowed by development that turns them into infill. Unfortunately, LU will stick out like a sore thumb for at least the rest of my natural life. 

The more I look at it the more Durm’s tallest looks like an ode to world war 1 helmets

Is it still Durham’s tallest. They just built a y’all tower downtown that dwarfs all the other buildings. Durham’s City center Tower or something like that. 

[HighRiseHillbilly]

On 8/8/2018 at 4:00 PM, JBS said:

The design of this project is exactly what I would expect the 70 year old CEO to like and approve.

While I try to find a way to appreciate what I can't control (until I become a billionaire &  build my own), so much of the architectural ideas in this city reflect the above. People with big pockets & little imagination. Old southern men or at least old southern ideas that are too scared to expand & be truly cosmopolitan. It urks the f- outa me, but hopefully someone's grandchild is reading this board & will catch the hint & pass along the message before the next big building cycle begins.

[KJHburg]

2 hours ago, JorgiPorgi said:

Is it still Durham’s tallest. They just built a y’all tower downtown that dwarfs all the other buildings. Durham’s City center Tower or something like that. 

The new One City Center in downtown Durham is slightly shorter than the University tower on US 15-501.

As for the design of Legacy I like it and have from the get go.  Reasons: different than uptown other towers why must everything be all glass.  I think like the variety it will add to the skyline for example it is very different than 615 South Church, Duke Energy, 300 South Tryon and even the new Ally at Tryon Place building.  This is the style of this developer that should be no surprise look at Capitol Towers, Piedmont Row,  office buildings behind Sharon Library.    Also as it 65% PRELEASED to Bank of America they must approve of it too.  Building high rises is not a kids game, it is to suit tenants.  Only in China are crazy buildings built that are not market driven.    This will NOT be the last office high rise ever built in Charlotte with at least one more rumored already about a block away.  I suggest if you really don't like it apply for a job at Bank of America and get a job inside this building and you will never have to glance at it from another building LOL!  As for me I love it! 

Edited August 15, 2018 by KJHburg

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Is it still Durham’s tallest. They just built a y’all tower downtown that dwarfs all the other buildings. Durham’s City center Tower or something like that. 

Tall autocorrects to y’all on my phone too, right@jayvee


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[SydneyCarton]

3 hours ago, JorgiPorgi said:

Is it still Durham’s tallest. They just built a y’all tower downtown that dwarfs all the other buildings. Durham’s City center Tower or something like that. 

I also thought that the new tower was Durham’s tallest, but apparently, it isn’t.  There’s a decent amount of construction in Durham, but it’s primarily low rise.

1 hour ago, KJHburg said:

The new One City Center in downtown Durham is slightly shorter than the University tower on US 15-501.

As for the design of Legacy I like it and have from the get go.  Reasons: different than uptown other towers why must everything be all glass.  I think like the variety it will add to the skyline for example it is very different than 615 South Church, Duke Energy, 300 South Tryon and even the new Ally at Tryon Place building.  This is the style of this developer that should be no surprise look at Capitol Towers, Piedmont Row,  office buildings behind Sharon Library.    Also as it 65% PRELEASED to Bank of America they must approve of it too.  Building high rises is not a kids game, it is to suit tenants.  Only in China are crazy buildings built that are not market driven.    This will NOT be the last office high rise ever built in Charlotte with at least one more rumored already about a block away.  I suggest if you really don't like it apply for a job at Bank of America and get a job inside this building and you will never have to glance at it from another building LOL!  As for me I love it! 

I love it too.  I can’t wait to see the pyramid illuminated at night.

[JorgiPorgi]

3 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Tall autocorrects to y’all on my phone too, right@jayvee


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It drives me insane! I’m southern, but damn. 

This tower needs columns! And maybe a flagpole on top. 

[Tyrone Wiggum]

11 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I love it too.  I can’t wait to see the pyramid illuminated at night.

ORLY?

Last time I'll say it and then I'll let it go:  this is a homeless man's One Atlantic Center.  OAC is simple yet elegant and its design is timeless.  LU is a disproportionate beige concrete turd.

It needs a new name.  Legacy Onion is good, but Legacy Bunion?  Oh wait, nope: