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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

It’s odd that 3 of the 4 LU office towers are pretty short.  I wonder if that’s all that the zoning would allow.

zoning is unlimited. and again, I was stating that this is what has been MARKETED for 4, as of 2 years ago. I highly doubt something this short gets built here. Legacy Union 3 will be around 310 feet, that's really not THAT short.

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2 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

zoning is unlimited. and again, I was stating that this is what has been MARKETED for 4, as of 2 years ago. I highly doubt something this short gets built here. Legacy Union 3 will be around 310 feet, that's really not THAT short.

I had assumed that all of these towers would have been at least 500 feet.    Anyway, I think it’s coming out beautifully.

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17 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I had assumed that all of these towers would have been at least 500 feet.    Anyway, I think it’s coming out beautifully.

Then you would have been planning on not having a single hotel or residential tower, and committing to something like 5.5M sq feet of office space, and needing gosh, I dunno, 8000 parking spaces?

Unless we get a 1500 room hotel, a 600 unit apartment tower, or a SunTrust HQ, I doubt there will be something else over 500 feet.

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wouldnt suprise me if BofA had a agreement that they were the largest/tallest building in that development,  They wanted to be the main building

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2 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Then you would have been planning on not having a single hotel or residential tower, and committing to something like 5.5M sq feet of office space, and needing gosh, I dunno, 8000 parking spaces?

Unless we get a 1500 room hotel, a 600 unit apartment tower, or a SunTrust HQ, I doubt there will be something else over 500 feet.

But does it really need 8,000 parking spaces? It's one block from a transit station.

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9 minutes ago, Miesian Corners said:

But does it really need 8,000 parking spaces? It's one block from a transit station.

Really, they'd probably build 10,000. And in their defense, that transit station connects to a transit system that comfortably serves what, 15-20% of the population of the city?

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4 minutes ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Really, they'd probably build 10,000. And in their defense, that transit station connects to a transit system that comfortably serves what, 15-20% of the population of the city?

We do have a fairly substantial bus system...

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1 minute ago, Miesian Corners said:

We do have a fairly substantial bus system...

yep, agreed. However, there needs to be a pretty big paradigm shift in transit ridership before you see any developer decrease the amount of parking they are building. And yes I agree that removing parking NEEDS to be part of the paradigm shift, but development in Charlotte is reactionary. 

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15 minutes ago, Miesian Corners said:

^ All I'm saying is that if you give people parking, they will need it. If you don't, they'll find a way to get there--especially if it's for work. 

and I 100% agree. But the answer isn't changing the developers, its changing the rules.

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I don't think all the towers on this site need to be massive...I rather like the Deloitte Tower (much prefer it over the BOAT) and it will have great street appeal as it is built over the sidewalk and hangs out over Tryon from what it looks like in the renderings.  I just wish 1100 S. Tryon was opposite this development on the other side of 277...they would have complemented each other nicely.  Speaking of...are there any plans for the lots between 1100 S. Tryon and 277?  That would go a long way to extending the urban core into Southend and jump the freeway.

Also, what is the latest on the Honeywell/LU3 tower?  I'm interested to see how the building interacts with the curve of Mint Street opposite the stadium.  Could be great...could be awful LOL.

 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, tarhoosier said:

Ron, your game is hot.

Hahah what a phrase. 

But yeah, Rookie of the Year for sure. Good news is both are moving upward and LU2 will move into frame VERY soon. 

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8 hours ago, Miesian Corners said:

^ All I'm saying is that if you give people parking, they will need it. If you don't, they'll find a way to get there--especially if it's for work. 

If you don’t provide it they will look elsewhere.

If not uptown then anytown.  

What makes a site so attractive it doesn’t matter how much parking there is?  That’s the million dollar question.  

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12 hours ago, ricky_davis_fan_21 said:

Then you would have been planning on not having a single hotel or residential tower, and committing to something like 5.5M sq feet of office space, and needing gosh, I dunno, 8000 parking spaces?

Unless we get a 1500 room hotel, a 600 unit apartment tower, or a SunTrust HQ, I doubt there will be something else over 500 feet.

There’s about 10m sf of office space under construction (or just built) in the “ .,, Yards” alone in a city that shall not be mentioned, and not one parking space was allocated.   There are also plans for about another 10 m sf of office space around a “grand” train station with not one parking space planned.  Around 8m sf was built around a development called the “.., Trade Center” with 2.8m sf more to come and yet, no garages.  The Queen doesn’t need so much parking.

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The time has come for Charlotte to wean itself off of cars.  It’s becoming sufficiently dense.

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If you don’t provide it they will look elsewhere.
If not uptown then anytown.  
What makes a site so attractive it doesn’t matter how much parking there is?  That’s the million dollar question.  

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8 hours ago, CLT_sc said:

After looking at this project yesterday, I do like the BofA building at ground level.  The entrance from Tryon looks impressive.  I like the upper part of the building, just not as good as Ally across the street.  The lighting is kind of cool, especially with Duke’s light show next door.

i hope the undeveloped corner on S Tryon is built sooner and does not get moth balled for a while due to an economic downturn. Would like to see a building about 3/4 as tall as BofA with a lot of street level interests.....plaza, fountains, retail.....

I’d like a plaza with fountains, but I don’t think that any water features are planned.

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