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3 hours ago, jessed said:

So how many buildings are going on this lot again? This is 2/?

This would be #3 and according to LH 2 more office towers and other uses may coming to this 2 block project. 

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The exterior is brick. I have literally read 2 of the  habitual complainers complain brick is not used enough.
If this was glass it would be too matchy matchy.
If this was Efis the turtles or squirrels or whatever would die when the styrofoam cup residue floats to the ground.
If this was limestone like the Jonas addition, it would be “soooooo boring” and tall limestone buildings can’t be pulled off and modernism is bla bla bla bla....
I’m pretty sure the only thing that will make them happy is if someone started some mining expedition to locate granite quarries that produced rock in 100 different shades so that all new buildings would be high quality material like BOA corporate but god forbid not match one another.
I would also confidently bet not one of them regularly attends city planning forums or spends one ounce of energy to develop their opinion into one that actually matters, like running for a city planning position or public office.
I have no problem with a difference in opinion. My problem is that if you do have one, why not do something with your time which brings about change or provide an actual solution that is economically feasible? Simply going on a web forum and stating something is ugly is not helpful to anyone, why not position your comment in a way that states pros and cons so that adjustments can be made (assuming that someone matters is listening, it would probably be way more effective to start investigating how to petition the project or email someone that matters instead).
Oh and my favorite, requesting a newly constructed building to be demolished because it isn’t aesthetically pleasing to you... that is not only an absolute waste of energy, it’s  ridiculous. 

The person who said to demolish it wrote it in a blue font. Aka sarcasm.


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11 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I think that tower is really beautiful.   I like the brick and glass, and the roofline is very cool.

I'm also impressed by the wide array of styles at LU.

 

 

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The lower floors seem to have glass windows, so I’m curious how the garage is ventilated.

P.S.: All of the greenery around this tower looks great too.

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On 2/11/2019 at 2:37 PM, Trickbot said:

Wait, from the website @CharlotteWkndBuzz linked a few posts up. This is a rendering of the completed complex including the LU2

 

They're leaving the top few triangles of the pyramid empty? What is the point of that? It looks worse and makes the project feel incomplete.  Tear it all down and restart if this is the case

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Lol! Yes, one of the tear down comments were in blue. Here is one that isn’t. And I’m sure if I cared I could find more.

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I’m sorry if you think my post was directed at you, I assure you it was not. You have been one of the most forthcoming, insightful, productive members of this thread. Also, if one person on this forum has actually articulated themselves properly with every project, it would be you.
My comment was in no way geared at any negative comment expressed by any other member with thought out, constructive criticism. It was geared toward the “This is trash” with no substance posters.
I am by no means praising this project, but I do not think anyone that is an architect that worked on it and happens to stumble upon this thread deserves someone to completely sum up their hard work with such a comment in such a demeaning way. If you are unhappy with aspects, great, express it, that’s productive. hey Calling it garbage and exiting in a torch mob mentality (which is only a vocal few) is childish in my opinion and degraded the integrity of this forum.


Its definitely exhausting that hundreds of pages are one liners about hatred. :-)


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46 minutes ago, Seabrooke said:

Lol! Yes, one of the tear down comments were in blue. Here is one that isn’t. And I’m sure if I cared I could find more.

I cant write in blue on my phone's browser

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This would be a great building...on UNCC's campus.  I've said earlier before the hot topic alert lol, that I dont mind this building (think the B- is fair). There is literally one building and a parking deck topped out. BOAT sticks out like a sore thumb, which makes it highly critique-able. LU2 is barely off the ground but we can expect 3-5 more towers along with Honeywell.  I think the sheer density of the full buildout will mask and blend a lot of it's flaws and cons ppl are discussing. I am really hoping the retail pans out to be above average with a mix of things, it will be something else walking on the promenade admist the canyon of newness. 

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29 minutes ago, Trickbot said:

I cant write in blue on my phone's browser

Just add /s after the post like people do on Reddit and elsewhere.

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Ok - this all makes sense now. LSP3 is the architect.

LSP3 also designed LU1 and LU2 (verdict is still TBD, on LU2, IMO, LOL).

Oh! LSP3 is also responsible for Capitol Towers, the hideous and already dated looking parking decks at the airport, Councourses D&E (everyone’s favorites), 230 south tryon (gag), and then a bunch of Baptist churches, residence halls, medical offices, and firehouses. They’re definitely designing above their bread and butter, and it shows. 

http://www.ls3p.com/projects/

Inexplicably they somehow managed to design 300 south - which is the only thing above 5 stories they should be showcasing on their website, IMO. Sorry to be negative but I’m tired of C grade architecture. I’m thankful for the height, density, jobs, retail, etc but clients should be asking for more.

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1 hour ago, Urban Cowboy said:

Ok - this all makes sense now. LSP3 is the architect.

LSP3 also designed LU1 and LU2 (verdict is still TBD, on LU2, IMO, LOL).

Oh! LSP3 is also responsible for Capitol Towers, the hideous and already dated looking parking decks at the airport, Councourses D&E (everyone’s favorites), 230 south tryon (gag), and then a bunch of Baptist churches, residence halls, medical offices, and firehouses. They’re definitely designing above their bread and butter, and it shows. 

http://www.ls3p.com/projects/

Inexplicably they somehow managed to design 300 south - which is the only thing above 5 stories they should be showcasing on their website, IMO. Sorry to be negative but I’m tired of C grade architecture. I’m thankful for the height, density, jobs, retail, etc but clients should be asking for more.

They're a firm that caters to people with a budget, and IMO they do a decent job in that regard, however not every project is appropriate to give the cookie cutter treatment. I don't really agree with the hate at the airport though, the decks were built WELL in advance of the terminal expansion and will likely be brought "fully online" in the coming years. IE getting cleaned up, ramps fully utilized, etc. In terms of the terminal renovations, they're working in a challenging space, considering the airport is nearly 100% utilized, there is no space for a "true" remodel. Really lipstick on a pig is the best they can do at the moment, as more growth occurs, my understanding is that a more substantial improvement project will be underway. Don't forget that a whole new TERMINAL is in the works.  Did they also do A north? If so, don't leave that out, because that is truly a world class job. And you said it yourself with 300 South Tryon, clearly they're capable, that building is practically the new concourse 25 (26?) stories high. I think a large part of the blame lies on the clients themselves, if they don't give them the budget, they're going to fall back on the cookie cutter designs they're used to. And the cheap materials that will meet their bottom line. 

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16 minutes ago, King of the Queen City said:

I’m mostly just glad that this view isn’t going to last for long...DBF89934-2815-4CE3-BD25-F005F728ABC0.thumb.jpeg.6bb90d66919a6fc3d5a43509012c1d1a.jpeg

Jesus that's dystopian looking.

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I like it. I don't like the color of the brick- I wouldn't mind it being a couple shades darker. It covers the deck for the most park. This side of town is going to be so dense in Three years. Charlotte is going to feel real "big city, with all these buildings right on 277. 

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14 hours ago, Matthew.Brendan said:

Seriously, #77 on the Fortune100 with $42B in revenue and this is their World HQ..... ok.

Can't be as bad as Delta's HQ. The whole area is just ugly. 

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