Legacy Union (former Charlotte Observer redevelopment)

[SydneyCarton]

I was in Charlotte yesterday.   There's a lot of activity here.

 

Edited April 24 by SydneyCarton

[SydneyCarton]

On 4/23/2022 at 12:14 PM, RANYC said:

I'm in Manhattan for a week currently, on business.

I do miss the availability of live music, and the kinds of people you randomly meet out and about or at a bar, and the willingness of people at a bar/pub to engage with strangers.  I find that in stark contrast to Charlotteans, based on personal experience/observation. 

Charlotte's uptown, however, with its tree-lined streets along every block, is really extraordinary.  The fact that our CBD is a bit of a forest set against towers and somewhat of a dense cluster of buildings gives it a clean appearance, makes it inviting and an enchanting walk.  The best, loveliest stretches of Manhattan are those that are tree-lined with a bit of canopy, they're just hard to pin down...excepting Central Park, of course.

We should continue to make Uptown a place of intrigue and amusement, 24/7.  Something like a dynamic, constantly changing CHARLOTTE SHOUT, except 365 days a year.  I'd love to see tryon closed for a week for a festive food & arts market. 

The heart of uptown along tree-lined Tryon, filled like this: https://www.manhattancc.org/common/news/articles/article_detail.cfm?QID=10624&clientID=11099&topicID=14&ThisPage=Events

 

I was in Charlotte yesterday.  SouthEnd really strikes me.  Every time I go, it gets more and more vibrant, and with all of the big new developments coming, it’s just the tip of the iceberg.

I took this from SouthEnd.

P.S.: About Manhattan, there are many areas with very dense tree canopies.  Virtually every street off 5th or off CPW has a very dense canopy on both sides of the street.  Same with Greenwich Village.

 

Edited April 24 by SydneyCarton

[RANYC]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

I was in Charlotte yesterday.  SouthEnd really strikes me.  Every time I go, it gets more and more vibrant, and with all of the big new developments coming, it’s just the tip of the iceberg.

I took this from SouthEnd.

P.S.: About Manhattan, there are many areas with very dense tree canopies.  Virtually every street off 5th or off CPW has a very dense canopy on both sides of the street.  Same with Greenwich Village.

 

Yes, I know there are parts that are somewhat treed.  I lived there for 14 years including on the UES along streets that city-dwellers might say are canopied, and I'm back once a month to look after a team.  But I assure you it's nothing like Charlotte, nor even like Paris.  And NYC doesn't give off canopied vibes to the lion's share of its visitors.

Edited April 24 by RANYC

[SydneyCarton]

2 hours ago, RANYC said:

Yes, I know there are parts that are somewhat treed.  I lived there for 14 years including on the UES along streets that city-dwellers might say are canopied, and I'm back once a month to look after a team.  But I assure you it's nothing like Charlotte, nor even like Paris.  And NYC doesn't give off canopied vibes to the lion's share of its visitors.

I know NY very well.   I lived in NY until 2008 and go back regularly for work.  I also lived in Charlotte for many years before moving to Chapel Hill, and I return to Charlotte a lot.

As I said, every time I return to the QC, I’m impressed with how much better it keeps getting.

Edited April 25 by SydneyCarton

[Reverie39]

I think Southern cities in general have done a good job maintaining dense tree canopies. Atlanta is most famous for it but Charlotte is great too.

[SydneyCarton]

On 4/23/2022 at 12:14 PM, RANYC said:

I'm in Manhattan for a week currently, on business.

I do miss the availability of live music, and the kinds of people you randomly meet out and about or at a bar, and the willingness of people at a bar/pub to engage with strangers.  I find that in stark contrast to Charlotteans, based on personal experience/observation. 

Charlotte's uptown, however, with its tree-lined streets along every block, is really extraordinary.  The fact that our CBD is a bit of a forest set against towers and somewhat of a dense cluster of buildings gives it a clean appearance, makes it inviting and an enchanting walk.  The best, loveliest stretches of Manhattan are those that are tree-lined with a bit of canopy, they're just hard to pin down...excepting Central Park, of course.

We should continue to make Uptown a place of intrigue and amusement, 24/7.  Something like a dynamic, constantly changing CHARLOTTE SHOUT, except 365 days a year.  I'd love to see tryon closed for a week for a festive food & arts market. 

The heart of uptown along tree-lined Tryon, filled like this: https://www.manhattancc.org/common/news/articles/article_detail.cfm?QID=10624&clientID=11099&topicID=14&ThisPage=Events

 

 

Charlotte is very green and that enhances its great charm.  

However, for an enormous city, NY is actually pretty green.  Even apart from the fact that Fifth Avenue and Central Park West are lined with massive trees for fifty blocks, Park Avenue's tree and flower-filled medians are a sight to behold, and the city plans to make them even bigger.

 

In terms of Charlotte's green canopy, Meyers Park is amazing.  I think it's the most beautiful neighborhood in the state.

 

Also, Tryon might be the greenest main street in a major U.S. city.   I snapped these photos of Queens Rd. and Tryon St. yesterday.

 

Edited April 29 by SydneyCarton

[nicholas]

Rode by on my way home today, got stopped at the light so here's a pic.  Lots of activity even at nearly 6pm. 

[SydneyCarton]

Does anyone have a reasonable guess as to when steel might start rising?

[CLT Development]

7 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Does anyone have a reasonable guess as to when steel might start rising?

There will be a mix cast-in-place and prefab deck. Theres significant foundation work, and then 8 floors of parking, so I would imagine its a year and a half before steel rises. I'm told this is a 2025 completion, so we have a ways to go.

[SydneyCarton]

10 minutes ago, CLT Development said:

There will be a mix cast-in-place and prefab deck. Theres significant foundation work, and then 8 floors of parking, so I would imagine its a year and a half before steel rises. I'm told this is a 2025 completion, so we have a ways to go.

Thanks 

[SydneyCarton]

Does anyone who's familiar with LH's plans know if a residential-hotel tower is still possible on this site?  Considering the proliferation of wealth in Charlotte,  a supertall hotel-condo would probably do very well at LU.  

Edited April 26 by SydneyCarton

[GoingUptown]

Here’s a photo from today.  Towards the right side of the plot, you’ll see where they knocked apart some existing concrete structure - almost looked like an old vault to me.  Enjoy the photo. 
 

[Phillydog]

What is being built?

[Hushpuppy321]

47 minutes ago, Phillydog said:

What is being built?

Last I've heard on this thread is another Office Tower on top of Podium Parking Deck.  I think it was 17\18 Stories planned.  Also - the Parking Deck may be built to support another Tower possibly Hotel or Residential.

[KJHburg]

it is a total of 23 stories with a couple of integrated parking levels aka the podium.  Taller than Deloitte but shorter than Ally Bank Center. 

[eastsider]

A parking deck fronting Tryon? As if that massive one in the backside isn't a big enough eyesore...

[KJHburg]

4 minutes ago, eastsider said:

A parking deck fronting Tryon? As if that massive one in the backside isn't a big enough eyesore...

no well hidden like the one parking level in the Deloitte tower. 

[JeanClt]

A parking deck fronting Tryon? As if that massive one in the backside isn't a big enough eyesore...

I doubt there would ever be a parking deck fronting Tryon. At least I’m uptown and I hope that is no coincidence. (An entrance/exit)

[atlrvr]

As KJ mentioned, there is parking in the Deloitte tower fronting Tryon, it just doesn't look like it.

3 Wells Fargo is like 8 levels of parking fronting Tryon, also blended to look like continuous office.

Courtyard by Marriott is only like 4 floors of hotel on top of 8 floors of parking, and it's the most obvious parking fronting Tryon.

Duke energy has parking fronting Tryon as will the 7th and Tryon, but also "perfectly" blended.

[KJHburg]

Truist Tower has multiple levels of parking within the tower complex and you would never know as does the Avenue condo tower (both parking garages are some of the tightest spaces in town) 

Lincoln Harris is big on this executive parking and many tenants seem to like it.  They even did this at Capitol Towers in southpark.   Like their trademark now with domes, pyramids and so forth. 

[Spartan]

Wasn't this originally supposed to be a crapload of new retail?

Surprised the existing deck wasn't built to accommodate the entire block.

[TCLT]

The retail brochure for the Deloitte tower has the below site plan and the lot on Mint/Stonewall is described as Future Development Pad 6/7.

1. Bank of America Tower

2. Deloitte Tower

3. Honeywell Tower

4. 600 South Tryon

And 5? Does this confirm this phase will be two towers? Or are they considering the monster deck a "development" in the numbering scheme?

 

edit: Ugh, never mind. Just the one tower probably. An older version of the brochure described the 600 S Tryon lot as Future Development Pad 5. Which means the parking deck must be #1 which is fitting for such a glorious parking structure.

Edited May 2 by TCLT
new info

[Blue_Devil]

11 hours ago, TCLT said:

The retail brochure for the Deloitte tower has the below site plan and the lot on Mint/Stonewall is described as Future Development Pad 6/7.

1. Bank of America Tower

2. Deloitte Tower

3. Honeywell Tower

4. 600 South Tryon

And 5? Does this confirm this phase will be two towers? Or are they considering the monster deck a "development" in the numbering scheme?

 

edit: Ugh, never mind. Just the one tower probably. An older version of the brochure described the 600 S Tryon lot as Future Development Pad 5. Which means the parking deck must be #1 which is fitting for such a glorious parking structure.

This is going to be the office tower first and then eventually a hotel or apartments on the same parking structure. So two towers eventually.

[Mgelbach]

[atlrvr]

Looking at the approved land-use plans, the height on the new tower is 366'.  That is just a bit taller than half-way between the top of Deloitte and top of Ally.

Disappointingly, it no longer appears that it is being designed for a 2nd tower closer to Church St.  There will be retail at Church/Stonewall, but no evidence of elevator banks at the rear of the building. (just at the office tower portion closer to Tryon).