Sign in to follow this  
GRDadof3

MSU Biomedical Research Campus

Recommended Posts


jas49503    62

I don't really think these moves are coincidental.

 

http://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/index.php/topic/115913-630-s-division-ave-postal-facility/

 

It would be great to see one continuous huge campus, although is there that much of a need for biotechnology and med school education? Maybe mixed with other programs? That lot behind Monroe Terrace and Brassworks (where Icon Tower II was going to go) would make for a great parking ramp and leave the rest as a nice campus.

 

 

 

13702361743_605bec2574_b.jpg

 

they will have to dramatically expand their offerings beyond medical school if they want to fill all of that space.  in East Lansing there are really only three buildings that house all of the medical school's classroom, clinical, and administrative space.  they are not even very large buildings.  It is hard to say what MSUs long term plans are and I suspect that as a medical school it is in transition from a primarily clinically, primary care based emphasis, to more traditional, research based medical school. a la, Univ of Mich.  If they were to tie that in with ancillary programs (nursing, pharmacy, etc) then I could see needing all that space, or at least a good portion of it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Veloise    46

they will have to dramatically expand their offerings beyond medical school if they want to fill all of that space.  in East Lansing there are really only three buildings that house all of the medical school's classroom, clinical, and administrative space.  they are not even very large buildings.  It is hard to say what MSUs long term plans are and I suspect that as a medical school it is in transition from a primarily clinically, primary care based emphasis, to more traditional, research based medical school. a la, Univ of Mich.  If they were to tie that in with ancillary programs (nursing, pharmacy, etc) then I could see needing all that space, or at least a good portion of it.

 

Probably because they moved here, yes?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
jas49503    62

Probably because they moved here, yes?

there were only three before they moved here. that includes both the DO and MD programs as well. Med schools just don't take up very much space as most of the classes can be in one room for the bulk of the lectures. you may have some smaller rooms for small group sessions. There will also be some lab space for anatomy and histology/pathology but that is about it.  very little for the students.  there is much more for admin and professors office space.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
GRDadof3    1830

Contact lenses with OLEDs in them, nanobots delivering drugs in the body, self healing synthetic muscles, 3D printed organs, the Human Brain Project, and transhumanism. These things exist today and I can only imagine what they will spawn tomorrow.

 

So yes, there is a large amount of need for Biotech research / development. 

 

There is one thing that MSU is talking about bringing to Grand Rapids that might be a bit contentious in the community. Will be interesting when the news come out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

GRDadof3    1830

The first thing that popped into my head was this: http://stemcellresearch.msu.edu/recent-projects

 

I think any kind of biotech facility will be doing stem cell research, both embryonic and other forms. I was referring to testing on animals. I can't recall the term for this type of facility, but it starts with bio.... something.

 

I understand though that VARI has a large cache of mice that they test on, kept in warm confines in the lower bowels of the building. But it's so secretive that I don't think there's ever been an article on it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
walker    171

I understand though that VARI has a large cache of mice that they test on, kept in warm confines in the lower bowels of the building. But it's so secretive that I don't think there's ever been an article on it.

 

Well testing, whatever the outcome, never ends well for the mice.  I suspect it would be hard for VARI to churn out an uplifting PR piece, at least not from the mouse perspective.   

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
GRDadof3    1830

Won't someone please think of the mice?!

 

You'd be surprised. The Humane Society keeps close tabs on these facilities. I'll bet there will be at least some uproar/picketing/etc.. I don't know though if it will be the post office site or the next phase...

Well testing, whatever the outcome, never ends well for the mice.  I suspect it would be hard for VARI to churn out an uplifting PR piece, at least not from the mouse perspective.   

 

Exactly. :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
temporary.name    187

You'd be surprised.

 

 

No I wouldn't be. Sarcasm typically requires a better than average understanding of a given topic. It also doesn't work well online. Oh well.. Much luv, daddy-o.

Edited by temporary.name

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

GRDadof3    1830

OMG, this is hilarious. The only thing I can surmise is that this article went through a translator to another language and then back to English. :)

 

http://www.minewsfeed.com/grand-rapids/rfq-issued-for-new-msu-grand-rapids-biomedical-research-center/

 

"Michigan State University is deliberation dual smoothness options for a biomedical investigate core in Grand Rapids:....

 

"Meddlesome, smoothness and trickery." Love it. :)

 

Still looking for the designs that were put out for the recent RFP...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Gorath    20

OMG, this is hilarious. The only thing I can surmise is that this article went through a translator to another language and then back to English. :)

 

http://www.minewsfeed.com/grand-rapids/rfq-issued-for-new-msu-grand-rapids-biomedical-research-center/

 

"Michigan State University is deliberation dual smoothness options for a biomedical investigate core in Grand Rapids:....

 

"Meddlesome, smoothness and trickery." Love it. :)

 

Still looking for the designs that were put out for the recent RFP...

 

My understanding is that only three developers (who are not named) qualified via RFQ.  And that the RFP are not due until July 29.  I doubt we will see anything before then.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
joeDowntown    664

"Dual smoothness"? This thing has GOT to be awesome. :)

 

Joe

 

OMG, this is hilarious. The only thing I can surmise is that this article went through a translator to another language and then back to English. :)

 

http://www.minewsfeed.com/grand-rapids/rfq-issued-for-new-msu-grand-rapids-biomedical-research-center/

 

"Michigan State University is deliberation dual smoothness options for a biomedical investigate core in Grand Rapids:....

 

"Meddlesome, smoothness and trickery." Love it. :)

 

Still looking for the designs that were put out for the recent RFP...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
walker    171

OMG, this is hilarious. The only thing I can surmise is that this article went through a translator to another language and then back to English. :)

 

http://www.minewsfeed.com/grand-rapids/rfq-issued-for-new-msu-grand-rapids-biomedical-research-center/

 

"Michigan State University is deliberation dual smoothness options for a biomedical investigate core in Grand Rapids:....

 

"Meddlesome, smoothness and trickery." Love it. :)

 

Still looking for the designs that were put out for the recent RFP...

 

I think this is what it said before it got tossed into the translator:

 

http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2014/rfq-issued-for-new-msu-grand-rapids-biomedical-research-center/

 

Still hard to read but not as funny.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
GRDadof3    1830

This sounds promising.

 


"As part of the request for proposals issued to three pre-qualified development groups, MSU is open to having other uses developed at the 4.1-acre site. Possible ancillary uses could include office, retail, commercial and even residential developments that would accompany the research center, university officials told MiBiz. -
 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
wingbert    490

 

This sounds promising.

 

"As part of the request for proposals issued to three pre-qualified development groups, MSU is open to having other uses developed at the 4.1-acre site. Possible ancillary uses could include office, retail, commercial and even residential developments that would accompany the research center, university officials told MiBiz. -

 

 

 

Could they maybe hide a parking facility in there that would serve Olds Manor so that place could be redeveloped into a nice hotel again?  Kind of like how the Amway Grand has its parking across Pearl Street.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
MJLO    342

Could they maybe hide a parking facility in there that would serve Olds Manor so that place could be redeveloped into a nice hotel again?  Kind of like how the Amway Grand has its parking across Pearl Street.

 

For all we know RDV is one of the approved 3 developers.   I can only imagine they would have something like that in mind if that were the case.   Especially with the mystery surrounding the post office. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
GRDadof3    1830

For all we know RDV is one of the approved 3 developers.   I can only imagine they would have something like that in mind if that were the case.   Especially with the mystery surrounding the post office. 

 

RDV has to be one of the developers. I can't imagine them sitting this one out. SIBSCO/Secchia/Rockford maybe another? Anyone think Orion is crazy enough to jump in on this? Or have the wherewithall? Who's left, CWD?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Gorath    20

I don't remember where I read it, but two of the developers are Michigan based. And one is a national developer.

 

I have no idea who the developers are, but I think a good guess is The Christman Company.  They do a lot of work for MSU, including the College of Human Medicine, and the Biomedical and Physical Sciences facility in East Lansing.

 

It is likely that the national developer has partnered with a local developer. CWD is probably a good candidate for the local developer.  In the past they partnered with a Chicago developer for The Gallery on Fulton.  And CWD have experience in medical facilities (primarily Spectrum Health).

Edited by Gorath

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
joeDowntown    664

I'm surprised there isn't more national interest. MSU sounds like a pretty solid tenant to me, and it'd be a good way for a national developer to get into this market.

 

Joe

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.