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The two went hand in hand insofar as the long term lease by the Squirles made the bond deal work.  Nothing was being built without flood control.  The city cannot afford flood control nor can it issue the bonds without a partner that will actually pay for it (by way of the long term lease) which would kerp the interest rates low on said bonds..  

The grocery store and the proposed hotel didnt need a stadium, they needed dry lobbies and aisles.  Neither Kroger nor Westin are going to pay for our flood control. 

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Well excuse me for interrupting the Venture Richmond cheerleading squad practice

I agree.  The history of the Slave Museum idea illustrates that it probably will not happen absent a comprehensive development plan (see Doug Wilder's bankrupted attempt).  I am totally in favor of ex

Downtowner - fully agreed.  Mind you, I've been away for almost 20 years so all of my following of what's going on back home has been online.  But you hit the nail on the head -- RVA was dying a slow

2 hours ago, Tarzan6179 said:

If you think it was "a few people", you are badly mistaken.

It may have been a lot of people, but not compared to the number of those who were in support of the project.  It’s just that those who opposed were really loud, which made it seem like a lot of people.  It was just enough to scare off the developers and political support...and that was that.  Done.  Now (today) all those NIMBYs can’t complain that there is no museum down there when it was they who killed the sure thing to get it built...but they do.  It’s frustrating. 

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I think Tarzan appears to still be complaining about the project when it doesn't even exist anymore.  The ballpark is going on Boulevard.

I believe plan for Shockoe bottom continues to be focus on the train station and pulse transportation hubs to fuel business investment in the shockoe bottom area (such as new Wyndham hotel looking to go in the ballpark proposed area).

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38 minutes ago, eandslee said:

It may have been a lot of people, but not compared to the number of those who were in support of the project.  It’s just that those who opposed were really loud, which made it seem like a lot of people.  It was just enough to scare off the developers and political support...and that was that.  Done.  Now (today) all those NIMBYs can’t complain that there is no museum down there when it was they who killed the sure thing to get it built...but they do.  It’s frustrating. 

And many of those that were stating opposition could not explain why aside from hearing misinformed sound-bits.

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12 hours ago, eandslee said:

It may have been a lot of people, but not compared to the number of those who were in support of the project.

Not sure why you think that. I believe it to be false.

 

12 hours ago, cbl1 said:

I think Tarzan appears to still be complaining about the project when it doesn't even exist anymore.  The ballpark is going on Boulevard. 



Nope. I'm not talking about the old project. I did not say a ballpark was going in Shockoe.

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16 minutes ago, RVA-Is-The-Best said:

I've never seen negative reputation on this site before lol

I was thinking the same!  I honestly never understood where the reputation even came from until this week.

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Then you have the Tarzan's and the average poster on Richmond Times Dispatch that complain about every project.   "What about the Schools" - seriously do they ever realize it is tax dollars from development that would raise cash for schools!  They think the city can't do two things at one time like work on schools and fund development projects.

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I still to this day thing the best alternative for the ballpark would have been the bottom (with the ballpark really being a way for Richmond to fund the infrastructure needs in that area that they otherwise can't justify).

Such great visibility and showcase of Richmond off I-95.  Direct on Pulse Line as well.    I think would have tied in better with new coliseum complex too - creating much closer sports and entertainment district (vs. splitting all the way to a Boulevard location).

 

 

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Watching the ACC baseball tourney in Durham stadium, man what a great looking park and surrounding development.  I hope Richmond can figure this out.  Need a colesium and a baseball park that can attract some tournaments and events.

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Visiting other places that have it together and have done things right just makes you yearn for Richmond to do the same. When it doesn’t happen, that’s when I get frustrated.  So, I understand how you feel.  I’m just hoping the plan to replace the coliseum with a new state-of-the-art arena will actually come to fruition. Hope to have a plan in place by fall and would love to see dirt move by Jan 2019.  I have no idea what will actually happen with the baseball stadium...there are “plans,” but no one really knows what that means.  I think there is still more time to figure out something awesome if a good plan can garner public support.  I’m looking forward to what the future brings.  Richmond may not have the best facilities now, but they could be coming soon!

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9 hours ago, eandslee said:

Visiting other places that have it together and have done things right just makes you yearn for Richmond to do the same. When it doesn’t happen, that’s when I get frustrated.  So, I understand how you feel.  I’m just hoping the plan to replace the coliseum with a new state-of-the-art arena will actually come to fruition. Hope to have a plan in place by fall and would love to see dirt move by Jan 2019.  I have no idea what will actually happen with the baseball stadium...there are “plans,” but no one really knows what that means.  I think there is still more time to figure out something awesome if a good plan can garner public support.  I’m looking forward to what the future brings.  Richmond may not have the best facilities now, but they could be coming soon!

I agree. Things seem to be moving in the right direction. Movement period is a good thing. If the arena can come to pass I believe it would be a feather in Richmond's cap. Lets just hope it happens.

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The city's involvement in these major development projects has been a cause for concern dating back to the 1970s.  It seems as though City Council can't get out of its own way.  I never could figure out if councilmen were simply on the take or if partisan (and back in the old Henry Marsh days, racially divisive) politics were to blame.  Too many times private developers came to town with wonderful plans for tremendous projects only to see the money dry up while approvals stalled as Council simple "tabled" a vote from meeting to meeting to meeting.  Often, when the city itself would get involved and have, "plans" those plans were often very nebulous and, if they came to fruition at all, were often scaled back from what might have been originally proposed.  I hope that is not the case with a new coliseum and surrounding development.  Whenever I hear that a.) the city is involved and b.) there are "plans" I begin to have serious doubts that the project will actually happen or, if it does, it will invariably be smaller than proposed and potential for the best possible use of available land will have been wasted.

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