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19 minutes ago, Shakman said:

"Will there be a school in the casino?"

How long before the preachers will start up on their soapboxes about the "evils" of gambling?

There are multiple categories of potential NIMBYs regarding THIS project, I'm afraid.

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29 minutes ago, I miss RVA said:

How long before the preachers will start up on their soapboxes about the "evils" of gambling?

There are multiple categories of potential NIMBYs regarding THIS project, I'm afraid.

Most present were strict NIMBY rather than concerned with the casino in general.  I would not be surprised if MGM rolls out some "Schools First!" campaign, though.

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I'm one of those "preachers"  however I promise not to give the save our schools excuse.

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12 hours ago, Shakman said:

I'm one of those "preachers"  however I promise not to give the save our schools excuse.

How 'bout the save our souls excuse? :tw_wink:

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3 hours ago, I miss RVA said:

How 'bout the save our souls excuse? :tw_wink:

Shhhh!  Stop giving away my secrets!

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75-unit apartment complex being proposed next to the community garden.  Design is severely lacking,  but it’s easier to redevelop an apartment building in 30 years then a condo/townhome development.  So we can chalk it up as a filler project. 
 

https://richmondbizsense.com/2020/02/27/75-unit-apartment-building-planned-beside-community-garden-in-manchester/

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Interesting design! Very reminiscent of the long blocks of row houses in Baltimore. With off-site parking behind the buildings, here's hoping the fronts come right to the sidewalk like the row houses of old in the Northeastern cities.

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"The Pamunkey Indian Tribe is moving forward on its plan to build a casino in Norfolk and has not shelved its more speculative plan to try for a second casino in Richmond. Jay Smith, a spokesman working with the tribe on its development efforts, said that, unlike more established gaming operators, the tribe doesn’t have big revenue sources that have dried up due to the coronavirus crisis."

"the city of Richmond, a fairly new entrant to the casino discussion that has not yet begun the process of choosing a casino partner. Richmond spokesman Jim Nolan said the city is planning to hold its referendum in 2021 and intends to conduct a community engagement process on the issue over the summer."

https://www.virginiamercury.com/2020/05/11/casinos-are-shuttered-across-america-but-gaming-interests-say-theyre-still-coming-to-virginia/

Snagged from vdogg's Norfolk update.

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On 5/14/2020 at 7:56 PM, rjp212 said:

Watched the Manchester Alliance Zoom meeting today.  There was a Real Estate Attorney for the landowners of 400 and 401 Maury (parcels north and south of Maury adjacent to the on ramps)  Seems they want to unify the zoning to TOD to better market the property. They mentioned the reconfiguration of the Maury St exit and how it is taking some of the land.  The land left over would be ultimately redeveloped into something more dense.  No plans in place yet, but talk about a potential gateway project!

TOD zoning seem odd at that spot.  It is several blocks from any potential Pulse routes and at a vehicle focused intersection with immediate access to I-95.  I suspect these properties want dense but would also build a lot of parking with commuters in mind.

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I may have missed something along the way -- but I'm guessing any plans related to this proposal (from 3 years ago) to build a 12-story residential building at 6th and Hull long since fell off the rails? I was hoping there would be a high-rise building farther up into Manchester - so that the verticality wouldn't be limited to just the riverfront.

https://dogtowndish.com/2017/05/13/portrva-phase-2-plans-to-go-vertical-on-hull-street/

 

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46 minutes ago, I miss RVA said:

I may have missed something along the way -- but I'm guessing any plans related to this proposal (from 3 years ago) to build a 12-story residential building at 6th and Hull long since fell off the rails? I was hoping there would be a high-rise building farther up into Manchester - so that the verticality wouldn't be limited to just the riverfront.

https://dogtowndish.com/2017/05/13/portrva-phase-2-plans-to-go-vertical-on-hull-street/

 

Yeah, haven’t heard anything about that tower in a long while. I think it’s safe to say that one is dead...unfortunately. 

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8 minutes ago, eandslee said:

Yeah, haven’t heard anything about that tower in a long while. I think it’s safe to say that one is dead...unfortunately. 

I've thought the same thing. It's a really bummer - I wanted some height along Hull Street and for height to start sprouting up in "inland" Manchester. Mind you, I'm happy as can be with every tower that rises along the riverfront (hoping we hear news soon about groundbreaking for those twin residential towers slated to go up down by Legends, closer to Semmes and the Manchester Bridge) -- but I also would love to see height sprinkled deeper into Manchester. It's cool because it's starting to take on more of that Brooklyn, Baltimore, Boston feel there (interesting alliteration there!) with the beefing up of density and the real, "true" urban feel. Getting some "inland" height over there would add to it all the more.

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I really hope not. I know the commercial market is iffy, right now, but that would be a huge bummer. 

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6 hours ago, georgeglass said:

I had read in more recent articles that the 2nd component of South Falls was to be another residential building vs the previously proposed office building. Found this today that appears to show an adjacent building of about 10 floors!

 

https://www.cite-design.com/south-falls

Can someone here confirm this?  I also agree that this would be not as good as having the office component to this project. 

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13 hours ago, georgeglass said:

I had read in more recent articles that the 2nd component of South Falls was to be another residential building vs the previously proposed office building. Found this today that appears to show an adjacent building of about 10 floors!

 

https://www.cite-design.com/south-falls

Do you have links to the recent articles?  The images linked still look like an office building and the office component has been 10 floors.  The second image has been included for the past few years (reusable with office component not solidified) so that may actually be an older rendering.  Loopnet still has the leasing information up with updates as recently as yesterday.  Who is potentially developing the residential across Hull?  Perhaps that is the reference from the articles in question?

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/111-Hull-St-Richmond-VA/15302368/

Older articles had planned for residential with plans for offices changed later:

https://richmondbizsense.com/2018/05/21/100m-manchester-riverfront-project-begins-summer-14-story-tower/

The image from Cite-Design (landscaper) was created June 2018:

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On 12/2/2019 at 7:40 AM, Brent114 said:

More density for Manchester...

Two 11 story buildings planned for the lot below Legend...
 

.https://richmondbizsense.com/2019/12/02/twin-11-story-towers-planned-for-manchester-riverfront-sky-bridge-included/

I secretly hope this project dies with the recession.   I still hate it so much!

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7 hours ago, rjp212 said:

I secretly hope this project dies with the recession.   I still hate it so much!

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No...I like it.  The couple things that might improve it would be ground floor retail and maybe more height. 

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Agree to disagree. It’s massing is atrocious, the color scheme sill age horribly and it’s visibly from the River. We will hate it years from now. 

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18 hours ago, rjp212 said:

I secretly hope this project dies with the recession.   I still hate it so much!

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BITE YOUR TONGUE!!! ;)

Sorry - MAJOR disagree with you. We need EVERY highrise we can get our hands on. Step out of the classic Richmond box for a few minutes and think bigger picture. Personally, I don't "mind" the design. My favorite? Far from it. Could it be designed better? Ohhhh yes. HOWEVER ... we NEED these buildings right now. Don't get hung up on the color of the leaves when we don't even have the tree growing yet. Buildings like these bring density and more overall population -- all of which moves Richmond higher in people numbers. That growth is badly needed.

Mind you, I agree with you that it's not the greatest design in the world - BUT I WANT IT BUILT!!! We can worry about what things look like later on -- remember THE axiom of architecture -- "form FOLLOWS function" -- not the other way around. The bloody recession better NOT kill this project!! These projects don't grow on trees for Richmond. For New York, for Chicago, yes. Low-hanging fruit at worst. But for Richmond?

BUILD IT!!!!

7 hours ago, rjp212 said:

Agree to disagree. It’s massing is atrocious, the color scheme sill age horribly and it’s visibly from the River. We will hate it years from now. 

YOU will hate it for years to come - I personally will celebrate what it can contribute overall to the city. I honestly don't really care so much what it looks like. Not my favorite design by any measure - BUT WE NEED IT. We're not in a position right now to be picky about projects. 

Repeat after me boys and girls - "RICHMOND ... NEEDS ... EVERY ... SINGLE ... HIGHRISE ... SHE ... CAN ... GET ... HER ... HANDS ... ON!!!"

That was easy, yeah?

10 hours ago, eandslee said:

No...I like it.  The couple things that might improve it would be ground floor retail and maybe more height. 

I'm always in favor of more height -- but barring that, BUILD IT!! Not the prettiest design in the world -- but from a big-picture standpoint, it accomplishes a HECK of a lot more than what's there right now.

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