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1 hour ago, GRDadof3 said:

Yes, Herposheimers (sp?) was in an indoor mall where the police station is now. They tried to make it a "mall for children" but big shocker it failed miserably. No parking. :)

It was such a failure that for nearly a decade after, everyone said that retail would never work downtown and would go the way of Mackey's World. All the Letters to the Editor said so in the GR Press. 

I only brought it up because it was quite a large retail complex and most of the retail downtown has been small 2000 - 4000 sf spaces since then. 

When did the police station move in?

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8 hours ago, ironyisadeadscene said:

When did the police station move in?

2001-03ish IIRC.  The police station and county courthouse were relocated in the early 00's to make way for Devos Place.   They were originally part of the urban renewal of the 50s/60's that turned the north end of downtown into a suburban office park, replacing the street level dense district that was there prior. 

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On 5/19/2018 at 8:07 AM, MJLO said:

2001-03ish IIRC.  The police station and county courthouse were relocated in the early 00's to make way for Devos Place.   They were originally part of the urban renewal of the 50s/60's that turned the north end of downtown into a suburban office park, replacing the street level dense district that was there prior. 

Oh man, I always forget that the "Hall of Justice" used to be there.

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On 5/18/2018 at 10:43 PM, organsnyder said:

A little more I was able to dig up on Mackie's World:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1998-11-15/travel/9811150410_1_kids-juice-box-rare-illness

https://www.apnews.com/9ace41121e7480b1db3c92e6c13cb4a8

I have vague memories of riding the suspended train when it was City Center. We took the GRATA bus downtown.

I definitely remember riding in that purple suspended train as a child and then again as a less-than-rule-following teenager. 

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I will be excited if it is anything except the following: 

1) New Downtown Hotel outside of the proposal in between Windquest and Auditorium. 

2) New downtown headquarters for a regional law firm. 

3) New brewery within 100 mile radius of GR. 

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I'm working on an article for a local online pub called "The Most Anticipated Projects in Grand Rapids for 2019." 

What projects are you most excited about for 2019? I just might include them. :)  (I don't have a specific number in mind but I'm up to 10 now, and they can be small as long as they're impactful).

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11 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

I'm working on an article for a local online pub called "The Most Anticipated Projects in Grand Rapids for 2019." 

What projects are you most excited about for 2019? I just might include them. :)  (I don't have a specific number in mind but I'm up to 10 now, and they can be small as long as they're impactful).

Studio C, the Hinman Building and whatever DeVos does on Monroe. Also excited to see the Amway grand get reskinned. 

Joe

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11 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

I'm working on an article for a local online pub called "The Most Anticipated Projects in Grand Rapids for 2019." 

What projects are you most excited about for 2019? I just might include them. :)  (I don't have a specific number in mind but I'm up to 10 now, and they can be small as long as they're impactful).

I'm looking forward to the Laker Line to begin construction and to see what improvements it brings to our bus system. Obviously excited for all the major developments too downtown. 

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I second the Laker Line. I think it’ll be a boost to public transit (built in audience) and it’ll be interesting to see how it spurs development along the route (I see Standale being as a huge benefactor). 

Joe

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22 hours ago, joeDowntown said:

Studio C, the Hinman Building and whatever DeVos does on Monroe. Also excited to see the Amway grand get reskinned. 

Joe

Exactly these for me.

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On 12/10/2018 at 10:38 PM, jonrapley said:

I'm looking forward to the Laker Line to begin construction and to see what improvements it brings to our bus system. Obviously excited for all the major developments too downtown. 

I hadn't thought about adding the Laker Line. Noted!

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It would be nice to see at least an announcement in 2019 for the spot next to the MSU research center.    Also, will there be movement on the long-anticipated Lyon Square project....

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It hasn't been talked about on here but I think I may add Kids Food Basket's new "farm" and operation HQ's on Leonard Street. Certainly doesn't fit our usual urban infill stuff but it's pretty phenomenal. 

https://www.grmag.com/2018/10/28/kids-food-basket-plants-the-seeds-for-growth-with-new-property/

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25 minutes ago, GRDadof3 said:

It hasn't been talked about on here but I think I may add Kids Food Basket's new "farm" and operation HQ's on Leonard Street. Certainly doesn't fit our usual urban infill stuff but it's pretty phenomenal. 

https://www.grmag.com/2018/10/28/kids-food-basket-plants-the-seeds-for-growth-with-new-property/

Agreed.   Glad to see this property that was a family farm for decades, continue in the capacity as a part of the overall plan.   

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1 minute ago, mpchicago said:

Agreed.   Glad to see this property that was a family farm for decades, continue in the capacity as a part of the overall plan.   

Yes! And they'll actually use the food they grow in their programs. And they'll have greenhouses to grow food year round.  I visited a similar urban farm in Detroit that provides a lot of food to a gleaners right down the street. 

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Amazon and growing number of commercial developments popping up from the airport down to 68th stimulating housing, retail, and hotels.  The planners of M-6 were prescient.   

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17 hours ago, arcturus said:

Amazon and growing number of commercial developments popping up from the airport down to 68th stimulating housing, retail, and hotels.  The planners of M-6 were prescient.   

I was just out there and saw there are some huge new buildings along Broadmoor near 52nd. I don't remember those there 3 or 4 months ago. 

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2 hours ago, joeDowntown said:

Nice job. Now I need to start prepping my predictions for 2019 / scoring my 2018 predictions. 

Joe

Thanks Joe! I know, it's not really a predictions article. I need to start postulating what I think will happen that hasn't been announced yet... 

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21 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

2019 Project Article. I did usurp some images from here so let me know if you have an issue with dat. :) 

http://www.grnow.com/grand-rapids-most-anticipated-projects-of-2019/

Of all of those, I have to admit that the Hinman project is the one that takes the cake for me.   While not the tower it once was, I think it's the best large-scale piece of architecture going in downtown, and looks better than it did when it was taller.  Studio Park will be big, but I think this will be better.

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18 hours ago, jonrapley said:

It's such a good list to read through. Just when you think things are slowing down, you get reminded so much more is on the way. 

Thanks. It was a ton of work (on Christmas Day basically). I didn't mind though. 

28 minutes ago, x99 said:

Of all of those, I have to admit that the Hinman project is the one that takes the cake for me.   While not the tower it once was, I think it's the best large-scale piece of architecture going in downtown, and looks better than it did when it was taller.  Studio Park will be big, but I think this will be better.

We don't really have a building that looks like that, that wasn't built 100 years ago. It will be pretty fascinating to see it come together. 

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4 hours ago, GRDadof3 said:

Thanks. It was a ton of work (on Christmas Day basically). I didn't mind though. 

We don't really have a building that looks like that, that wasn't built 100 years ago. It will be pretty fascinating to see it come together. 

I like the look, but it will also be an interesting project to watch logistically. It going to be interesting to see how they move things around on such a small lot. 

Joe

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My 10 layman's predictions for the coming year. Split between optimism and pessimism. 

1) Studio C will finally force downtown retail to turn a corner. This will lead to something new and exiting in at least one of the major downtown vacancies (38 Commerce, 20 Fulton, Morton, etc.). 

2) We won't see movement on the DeVos Convention Center Hotel. I think CAA will stall to see what occupancy is like after a bevy of hotels come online (Curio, AC Hotel, Hyatt Place, Residence Inn, Embassy Suites, etc.)

3) We'll finally see movement at 201 Market, but it will differ in scope from the original proposal. 

4) Gordon's or Bridge Street Market will be forced to reinvent themselves as neither really fills a true downtown grocery need. 

5) We'll see a flurry of development in Monroe North area with manufacturing moving out and residential/retail/restaurants coming in. This will stretch from 196 up to the Creston district. 

6) A major, historical downtown restaurant will shutter or reinvent itself (Leo's, Gardella's, Sanchez, Bistro, Charley's Crab, etc.). 

7) Downtown USPS will finally move to coincide with Amazon warehouse opening and the weird bi-partisan tailwinds at play. DeVos will obviously be involved in some capacity. 

8) Fragmentation of downtown parking payments will not improve. Motu will continue to frustrate. 

9) We'll see major corporate QSR players begin to invest in downtown. Think Chipotle, Five Guys, etc.

10) Finally, this may be optimistic to some and pessimistic to others, we'll see the entrance of a scooter rental company (Bird or Lime). 

 

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