neon9 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) European and Asian DMUs would not be able to be used. They would likely not be, anyways, because of the requirements of having to be built in America anyways. However, several companies, including Rotem and Talgo, have expressed that they are ready to offer a DMU that will meet FRA compatible standards IF they get a big enough order for them. While Florida will likely not be big enough, if they can partner with several other states, they could put together a big enough order to get things started. There is another issue as well - regulations in the US require such frequent overhauls of locomotives that they make DMUs somewhat ineffective. Hopefully, though, we can get enough of these smaller projects going at once with this new stimulus, and hopefully it will have enough momentum to not only get a manufacturer to build a FRA compatible DMU, but also to get teh FRA to start focusing a little less on freight rail union protection and a little more on efficient passenger operations. Funny we're discussing this in a state that doesn't deem it necessary to inspect cars....ever. Anyway, we could use locomotive pulled trains of course, but it wouldn't make much sense I suppose. Edited January 15, 2009 by neon9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lala67 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 don't some counties still do emissions testing? I know when I lived in palm beach county we had to get our cars inspected before we could get our tags renewed. Granted it wasn't anything like the inspections we had in the 70s/early 80s, but it was an inspection, albeit limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestedTraveler Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I hate when they use old photos of Orlando on new projects (where's the Vue?). I also hate seeing the old, orange Disney bandshell as the backdrop to the news anchors. Me too - never mind that the orientation of the photo is backwards in general...at least use something up to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS1 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 these guys need one of us to do their marketing... or at least get them some primo shots of DT Orlando. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFW657 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Instead of everyone complaining about it here amongst ourselves, why not send them an email & tell them how lame their website graphics are. I did that with WFTV about that lame, outdated old pic they use as a backdrop on the news, but apparently they didn't care about my opinion because the same old photo is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLheat Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Instead of everyone complaining about it here amongst ourselves, why not send them an email & tell them how lame their website graphics are. I did that with WFTV about that lame, outdated old pic they use as a backdrop on the news, but apparently they didn't care about my opinion because the same old photo is still there. I thought I was the only one that did stuff like that, I guess that makes two of us they don't care about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwetteland Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 ... why not send them an email & tell them how lame their website graphics are. ... apparently they didn't care about my opinion because the same old photo is still there. I'd say, you answered your own question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS1 Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 http://www.righttrackflorida.org/ this is the link to the press conference earlier in Tally discussing the economic impact of Sunrail to CFLA and the rest of FLA. "economic stimulus" and "shovel ready." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theflytyr Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 http://www.righttrackflorida.org/ this is the link to the press conference earlier in Tally discussing the economic impact of Sunrail to CFLA and the rest of FLA. "economic stimulus" and "shovel ready."Watch out, Dockery is lurking!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwetteland Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 OK, not a CR question. This is about HSR and the $8 B Stimulus. How much would a line from Orlando to Tampa cost? Florida gets what? A few hundred Mil? My guess is that our share wouldn't cover much more than a study. How does that money get leveraged? Interest free bonds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwetteland Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 OK, not a CR question. This is about HSR and the $8 B Stimulus. How much would a line from Orlando to Tampa cost? Florida gets what? A few hundred Mil? My guess is that our share wouldn't cover much more than a study or two. How does that money get leveraged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogger Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 What about HSR between OIA and the Disney complex. Just take them straight to where they want to go and keep them off I-4 and 528. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neon9 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 OK, not a CR question. This is about HSR and the $8 B Stimulus. How much would a line from Orlando to Tampa cost? Florida gets what? A few hundred Mil? My guess is that our share wouldn't cover much more than a study or two. How does that money get leveraged? I think we could be eligible for up to 2 billion. A rough estimate for construction costs is 20 million per mile. The good thing is, all the studies here have already been done (or at least most of them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migman Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Support SunRail on Facebook! http://enewsbuilder.net/orcc/e_article0013...fckJVW,b4LwS0fV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFW657 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'd say, you answered your own question. If enough people did it, they'd take notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Gators Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) 1212 is being heard in the Senate Transportation Committee now. If anyone is online now and wants to watch the committee meeting, here's the link. Click on the "Watch Broadcast" next to Transportation. http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/index.cfm?...amp;Tab=session Edited March 4, 2009 by Go Gators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileguy Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Since this is all going on existing track, is there a reason the State couldn't lease other existing track from Florida Central Railroad and add a couple Western spurs, one from Downtown serving College Park, the Silver Star area, Apopka, Plymoth, Zellowwd, Tavares & Eustis/Umatilla, and another from Downtown to College Park, Ocoee and Winter Garden? As far as track layout goes, I think CSS would be the easy solution for downtown terminus, but LCS would be better to encourage intermodality. Does anyone know if this has been considered, and what some pros/cons of it would be? The existing plan is solid, but the areas are already prettymuch served by I-4. With this other extension, getting to downtown from Lake and western Orange would be considerably more convienent. Are these lines still operable? Have they been abandoned/paved? I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser1058 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Since this is all going on existing track, is there a reason the State couldn't lease other existing track from Florida Central Railroad and add a couple Western spurs, one from Downtown serving College Park, the Silver Star area, Apopka, Plymoth, Zellowwd, Tavares & Eustis/Umatilla, and another from Downtown to College Park, Ocoee and Winter Garden? As far as track layout goes, I think CSS would be the easy solution for downtown terminus, but LCS would be better to encourage intermodality. Does anyone know if this has been considered, and what some pros/cons of it would be? The existing plan is solid, but the areas are already prettymuch served by I-4. With this other extension, getting to downtown from Lake and western Orange would be considerably more convienent. Are these lines still operable? Have they been abandoned/paved? I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this... The run up to Lake County has always been one of the long-term thoughts for commuter rail, but it's all about the $$$$. DOT badly wants commuter rail along I4 to take cars off the road when the major reconstruction of I4 begins in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codypet Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Since this is all going on existing track, is there a reason the State couldn't lease other existing track from Florida Central Railroad and add a couple Western spurs, one from Downtown serving College Park, the Silver Star area, Apopka, Plymoth, Zellowwd, Tavares & Eustis/Umatilla, and another from Downtown to College Park, Ocoee and Winter Garden? As far as track layout goes, I think CSS would be the easy solution for downtown terminus, but LCS would be better to encourage intermodality. Does anyone know if this has been considered, and what some pros/cons of it would be? The existing plan is solid, but the areas are already prettymuch served by I-4. With this other extension, getting to downtown from Lake and western Orange would be considerably more convienent. Are these lines still operable? Have they been abandoned/paved? I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this... That spur that runs throough Parramore to Lake County still exists....the line that connects to that one and used to run into maitland and then into Altamonte has been shut down for some time. I think the final nail in the coffin for that line was the 414 extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwetteland Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Since this is all going on existing track, is there a reason the State couldn't lease other existing track from Florida Central Railroad and add a couple Western spurs, one from Downtown serving College Park, the Silver Star area, Apopka, Plymoth, Zellowwd, Tavares & Eustis/Umatilla, and another from Downtown to College Park, Ocoee and Winter Garden? As far as track layout goes, I think CSS would be the easy solution for downtown terminus, but LCS would be better to encourage intermodality. Does anyone know if this has been considered, and what some pros/cons of it would be? The existing plan is solid, but the areas are already prettymuch served by I-4. With this other extension, getting to downtown from Lake and western Orange would be considerably more convienent. Are these lines still operable? Have they been abandoned/paved? I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this... Since the commuter rail makes stops at both CSS and LCS both are served. LCS for intermodal CSS for events at the events center and DPAC. I know they have used the western spur up through Umatilla in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 The rumor is that the SunRail is on life support in Tally-o. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFW657 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I just heard on the news a day or so ago that even though Siplin was going to vote against it, it would make no difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS1 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I just heard on the news a day or so ago that even though Siplin was going to vote against it, it would make no difference. ... it would make no difference in that it would still pass w/o his vote, or that it would still get shot down notwithstanding his vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherpaddler Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 I don't think the 414 extension has closed the rail line that runs from 441 southwest to Ocoee & Winter Garden, because there are still active rail customers in that area. But the tracks seem to end around downtown Winter Garden, where the corridor becomes a road and eventually the West Orange Trail out toward the Turnpike. http://parks.orangecountyfl.net/images/maps/WOT_TrailMap.pdf In my opinion, if this corridor were ever to be considered for commuter rail, I think it would need to connect all the way to the population center in Minneola and Clermont at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theflytyr Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Any word on how the senate commitee vote went today, or have they not had it yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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