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This is a bit of a rant / ramble.

I've been on a road trip since last Friday and many of these things we already know but being out of town shows you how pathetic our infrastructure is in the Baton Rouge area.

Most of Alabama I65 was 3 lanes, they are widening it in many places having to blast into hill sides. Same can be said about Kentucky and Ohio. In the cities very rarely does the freeway go below 4 lanes and those 4 lanes extend beyond the city by 10 to 20 miles.

These places have HOV lanes and encourage use. If the lanes are not built the road median is built so the lanes could be easily added.

I got stuck in Cincinnati traffic, metro population of 2.5 million. My 25 mile drive took about 35 minutes. That same distance at home frequently takes an hour.

They have rivers here too. The Ohio river is not tiny yet they manage to have multiple access bridges crossing these rivers. Many times because of the landscape they are much taller.

We are easily in my mind 30 years behind just for road projects.

Then you get to education. It feels like Ohio has libraries everywhere. It's nice. They also recycle which is also nice.

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This is a bit of a rant / ramble.

I've been on a road trip since last Friday and many of these things we already know but being out of town shows you how pathetic our infrastructure is in the Baton Rouge area.

Most of Alabama I65 was 3 lanes, they are widening it in many places having to blast into hill sides. Same can be said about Kentucky and Ohio. In the cities very rarely does the freeway go below 4 lanes and those 4 lanes extend beyond the city by 10 to 20 miles.

These places have HOV lanes and encourage use. If the lanes are not built the road median is built so the lanes could be easily added.

I got stuck in Cincinnati traffic, metro population of 2.5 million. My 25 mile drive took about 35 minutes. That same distance at home frequently takes an hour.

They have rivers here too. The Ohio river is not tiny yet they manage to have multiple access bridges crossing these rivers. Many times because of the landscape they are much taller.

We are easily in my mind 30 years behind just for road projects.

Then you get to education. It feels like Ohio has libraries everywhere. It's nice. They also recycle which is also nice.

End ramble.

Sounds like a bunch of commies to me.

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I use the libraries here, so I do my part.  :lol:

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I agree.  I feel this way all of the time when I visit other places.  Especially places smaller than Baton Rouge that have wider interstates and better connectivity with surface roads.  It is so unacceptable its disgusting.  And what bothers me the most is that damn ramp coming off the new bridge on 1-10.  That is the most embarrassing engineering ever. 

 

Another thing I noticed is how cities are generally landscaped at the street level with a manicured touch.  In Baton Rouge I see a lot of paint or cement cracking on the roads, weeds are everywhere.  I visited Columbia SC for the first time and everything looked so clean and well managed.  In BR, well it looks like the Big Ragedy in too many places.

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The fact we call something that was built back in the 1960's new(I-10 Bridge)....says a lot! The off ramp was an epic brain fart! What were they thinking back then??

 

Being a deep water port works For & Against BR...harder to build massive bridge over a deep water port...still BR should have a 3rd Bridge; south of LSU to Brusly

 

No doubt the region is behind on the roads....a Southern by-pass mentioned in 80's or 90's may have come to fruition had it not been for the 1,240 acre Bluff Swamp/Spanish Lake...the proposed route ran right thru it...and it was axed by the environmentalist...no argument here...just wish they could have gone around it.

 

4-lanes on I-10 to Tanger Mall would be ideal & 3 to Hwy 22/Sunshine Bridge exit

 

BR was little (small street grid footprint)...then grew too fast ...in  1940 the population was only 35,000...then exploded to 125,00 in 1950...That's when problems began...(165,000 in 1970 to 219,000 in 1980)).....it truly  became overgrown country town with poor connectivity. Think of a time (80's?) when Corporate Blvd was not connected to Old Hammond Hwy...and the afflicted Coursey Blvd was just a mile long....are a couple of examples

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The fact we call something that was built back in the 1960's new(I-10 Bridge)....says a lot! The off ramp was an epic brain fart! What were they thinking back then??

waaaitttt a sec...

That's not because it was new/modern/etc. It's because it was new and not confused with the airline bridge.

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Too bad the Audubon Bridge was built up to the north and not on the south side.

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waaaitttt a sec...

That's not because it was new/modern/etc. It's because it was new and not confused with the airline bridge.

It's like your 'New' State Capitol, it was built in the thirties. The whole naming of things as 'new' even though their fifty to almost one hundred years more shows that BR used to be a really small city.  

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It's like your 'New' State Capitol, it was built in the thirties. The whole naming of things as 'new' even though their fifty to almost one hundred years more shows that BR used to be a really small city.

No one calls the state capital the "new state capital"

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No one calls the state capital the "new state capital"

I have heard it many time before...

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waaaitttt a sec...

That's not because it was new/modern/etc. It's because it was new and not confused with the airline bridge.

LOL....I realize it's to distinguish the I-10 Bridge & the Airline Hwy bridge...been living here all of my life...it's sometimes hard to make a point on the internet. 

 

I think Mr. Bernham understands...something that began construction over 50 years ago still getting the designation as "new" is laughable....

 

Maybe they can call the I-10 Bridge the middle aged bridge :silly:

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I would give BR a pass if it were in a unique situation with that population growth rate. The problem is other areas have managed faster growth and have gotten further ahead. Its depressing. Tonight I drove from Pittsburgh to Nashville. In Kentucky I65 was three laned the whole state except for the last 0.8 miles.

 

I mentioned to my wife last week that it shows how far behind the area is when you call a 50 year old bridge the new bridge. Its laughable. When I first moved here I couldn't find it because I was expecting it to be a bit younger.

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I have heard it many time before...

I thought your first post you said you just moved here? You've head it called "the new state capital" several times?

I would give BR a pass if it were in a unique situation with that population growth rate. The problem is other areas have managed faster growth and have gotten further ahead. Its depressing. Tonight I drove from Pittsburgh to Nashville. In Kentucky I65 was three laned the whole state except for the last 0.8 miles.

I mentioned to my wife last week that it shows how far behind the area is when you call a 50 year old bridge the new bridge. Its laughable. When I first moved here I couldn't find it because I was expecting it to be a bit younger.

BR's population boom happened after Katrina so it's not like there was a lot of time to plan. If Katrina never happened we wouldn't be discussing this.

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I thought your first post you said you just moved here? You've head it called "the new state capital" several times?

BR's population boom happened after Katrina so it's not like there was a lot of time to plan. If Katrina never happened we wouldn't be discussing this.

Yes, I moved here a few months ago, however many people I talked to when downtown or friends I have made have called it "the new state capitol". It still is ridiculous, that building is almost 100 years old. Something I have noticed is that this city has some really nice areas, but they are hard to access. And while at first glance I-10 looked like a well designed route, it's in terrible condition, too small, and poorly designed. It's really sad, especially with the cities population and somewhat growth. 

I thought your first post you said you just moved here? You've head it called "the new state capital" several times?

BR's population boom happened after Katrina so it's not like there was a lot of time to plan. If Katrina never happened we wouldn't be discussing this.

I imagine that Katrina's impact was big, but was it that big?

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No,  I'd say it accelerated what was already in place. 

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No,  I'd say it accelerated what was already in place. 

So where do you all see Baton Rouge ten years from now if the current growth continues or you guys see a boom after IBM opens?

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"No, I'd say it accelerated what was already in place. " I take that back because it did help to made Baton Rouge "relevant".

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I agree, it accellorated what was already happening. Many of the Katrina residents moved elsewhere. BR had a very low retention rate.

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Too bad the Audubon Bridge was built up to the north and not on the south side.

 

Its part of a much larger plan to provide another connection between I-59 and I-49.  

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I forget what the name of this type of interchange is called, but I also noticed many areas using them. They are very easy to use and make a positive impact on traffic. For the most part they don't take up much more space than a standard interchange.

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I see these all the time. They are more efficient in that they have 3 steps in each light cycle as opposed to the traditional 4 and are supposed to move more vehicles in a single green light. The bracing underneath these intersections are slightly different if you noticed. The weight distribution is different for traffic traveling through the intersection. Did the ones you see have the extra U-turn?

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I didn't notice any extra uturns but I did notice the bridge supports moved out from the center versus straight across.

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