420 Church St. | 9-Story Residential

[AndyPok1]

Interesting.  I've been walking past weekly or so waiting for the cupcake place to open.  I didn't even think of the implications for food service.  I simply found most of them odd choices for "live/work" units.  The cupcake place made sense from that side.  A tiny cycling studio?  While I'm intrigued, I feel like that would not be a great place to live.

[smileguy]

On 3/17/2016 at 0:52 AM, AndyPok1 said:

Interesting.  I've been walking past weekly or so waiting for the cupcake place to open.  I didn't even think of the implications for food service.  I simply found most of them odd choices for "live/work" units.  The cupcake place made sense from that side.  A tiny cycling studio?  While I'm intrigued, I feel like that would not be a great place to live.

I don't know what these rent for, but I'd think they would be less than a traditional retail space, particularly Downtown. May not be anyone living there.

[bqknight]

Quite a few retail outlets are now open within 420, including the Cupcake place. It's more of a tea-time cupcake place than a traditional cupcake place. 

Just decided to move into the building. Citi Tower is going up now and they said 520 will begin work in a couple months. Out of everything we viewed, it was pretty on par with the new "luxury" buildings. Location really sold it for us. Pricing was on par with pretty much any new complex, maybe slightly more but that's what South Eola will get ya. 

[gibby]

Thanks for the update.  I'm really excited about the 520 project.

[GTR]

1 hour ago, gibby said:

Thanks for the update.  I'm really excited about the 520 project.

Me too. It really is going to provide infill in a much needed place.

[John Hargrove]

On 5/18/2016 at 4:00 PM, bqknight said:

Quite a few retail outlets are now open within 420, including the Cupcake place. It's more of a tea-time cupcake place than a traditional cupcake place. 

Just decided to move into the building. Citi Tower is going up now and they said 520 will begin work in a couple months. Out of everything we viewed, it was pretty on par with the new "luxury" buildings. Location really sold it for us. Pricing was on par with pretty much any new complex, maybe slightly more but that's what South Eola will get ya. 

Would love to hear your experience with neighbors / the crowd over the next year. We considered the place but felt that the 3BR units were a bit too small for us (we have the 3br+den in 55W right now; basically a 4br), and we were a bit worried it might become another frat house in downtown. Overall this building seems like it was built well and the property management seemed generally competent. 

 

[bqknight]

15 hours ago, castorvx said:

Would love to hear your experience with neighbors / the crowd over the next year. We considered the place but felt that the 3BR units were a bit too small for us (we have the 3br+den in 55W right now; basically a 4br), and we were a bit worried it might become another frat house in downtown. Overall this building seems like it was built well and the property management seemed generally competent. 

 

I will keep you posted. We are in a large studio at 55W now and definitely wanted to get out. The dog facilities here are horrible and some of the people are definitely...interesting. The front office is so-so. 

We were very impressed with 420, front office and all. I can see how they may be a bit small for some people though. Not as small as SkyHouse though. 

[John Hargrove]

3 hours ago, bqknight said:

I will keep you posted. We are in a large studio at 55W now and definitely wanted to get out. The dog facilities here are horrible and some of the people are definitely...interesting. The front office is so-so. 

We were very impressed with 420, front office and all. I can see how they may be a bit small for some people though. Not as small as SkyHouse though. 

Awesome, thanks! 

I'm hoping something comes along that has some more roomy layouts. Cramming 3br into 1400sqft or whatever it was is somewhat cramped with the layout they had. Maybe 520 or Citi Tower will have something. 

[gibby]

The 520 project recently went back to the ARB.  Below is a link to the updated staff report.  This might need its own thread soon.

 

http://www.cityoforlando.net/city-planning/wp-content/uploads/sites/27/2016/06/ARB2015-00043report.pdf

 

[RedStar25]

I agree with the ARB. This building is generic at best. It needs some distinguishing feature. 

[prahaboheme]

Seems they didn't learn their lesson from the failures of 420 -- I'm happy that the ARB did!

[JFW657]

So wait...... they're calling this building the "Californian"????

Why???????

Maybe because it's next door to the 420, maybe?

 

[popsiclebrandon]

That is one amazingly boring looking building.

[JFW657]

At least it's not white and gray.

[gibby]

I love this thing.  How can we start a new thread?

[GTR]

So the City weighs in on the design of this being mundane but approves Modera??? Guess this developer didn't grease the wheels enough. Only explanation.

[JFW657]

Maybe they've seen renderings of Modera that we haven't seen.

Maybe it looks a lot better than we've been led to believe.

I certainly hope so.

 

[GTR]

1 hour ago, JFW657 said:

Maybe they've seen renderings of Modera that we haven't seen.

Maybe it looks a lot better than we've been led to believe.

I certainly hope so.

 

No they approved the final design. Stumpier than ever.

[dcluley98]

Just add some 'Grey trim bands' to it. . . that crap'll buff right out!

[John Hargrove]

Tad boring but man between 420, 520 and Citi, this place is going to liven up quite a bit in the next 2 years. Look forward to seeing the growth!

[JFW657]

8 hours ago, GTR said:

No they approved the final design. Stumpier than ever.

Are there any new updated renderings?

Some sites were calling it 36 floors, but in every rendering I've seen it was more like 26.

Hope it hasn't gotten even shorter than that.

 

[sunshine]

I think Orlando has a full time urban planner on staff (not sure). You would think in term of urban planning for the future, city will require more pedestrian features in the project like asking for set back for future bike lane, dedicating open space... Instead we are getting building that are so short that take up the entire block. If people are worried about traffic that comes with Modera, they should worried when 420 & 520 residents decided to leave their condo at the same time on a two lane road. But on the good note, at least this thing is moving forward unlike many other projects

[Pete C]

How special does this building and 420 have to be though? They are tucked away 2 blocks back from the main drag. I like the earth tone colors on this.

[GTR]

1 hour ago, JFW657 said:

Are there any new updated renderings?

Some sites were calling it 36 floors, but in every rendering I've seen it was more like 26.

Hope it hasn't gotten even shorter than that.

 

22 stories now.

[metal93]

22 stories now? And it originally was proposed at 36, that's almost a 40% loss of height. If it were a movie it'd be titled "Honey, I Shrunk the Modera Central."

I'm all for growth but for such a stumpy bland building in a prime location, I almost don't want to see it built.

Edited July 1, 2016 by metal93