Norfolk Outlet Mall

[BFG]

I'm hoping we can get a couple stores new to the area. Hopefully Ikea brings more shoppers, but that's still a year-and-a-half away. It's been six months already, and there's still empty storefronts.

[Virginia City]

I'm not too worried, its still new, a bit isolated and has a horrible off-ramp. Christmas will help with getting more traffic there.  I think about the outlet in Williamsburg, it was fairly small for decades then all of a sudden it doubled in size completely full.  Ikea will absolutely help it out and if it doesn't then I'll start worrying.

[zeppelin14]

The Outlets need more food options as well. It would be cool to have something local expand to the Outlets like a new location for Handsome Biscuit or a satellite O'Connor Brewery tasting room and store.

[Urbanlooker]

Shops and restaurants on the outskirts of the outlets are in the works including a Chik-fil-a. I think this is a little close to the one on military but it's a Chik-fil-a so I'm sure it'll do fine. I am interested to see what else is announced for these shops as well as what comes of the plans for the hotel down the street. I'll also get the chance to finally visit home next week to see for myself how the outlets compare to the ones here in Austin(well Round Rock) and Houston.

https://pilotonline.com/business/real-estate/article_f466689e-a420-58c0-8458-dad826184a55.html

Edited February 27, 2018 by Urbanlooker

[Urbanlooker]

This is mainly to do with other locations however, it appears that a Which Wich will be going in the development that I referenced above. 

https://pilotonline.com/inside-business/news/retail/article_7cd37294-60f8-5604-a8df-798a843122c9.html

[brikkman]

On 2/26/2018 at 9:13 PM, Urbanlooker said:

Shops and restaurants on the outskirts of the outlets are in the works including a Chik-fil-a. I think this is a little close to the one on military but it's a Chik-fil-a so I'm sure it'll do fine. I am interested to see what else is announced for these shops as well as what comes of the plans for the hotel down the street. I'll also get the chance to finally visit home next week to see for myself how the outlets compare to the ones here in Austin(well Round Rock) and Houston.

https://pilotonline.com/business/real-estate/article_f466689e-a420-58c0-8458-dad826184a55.html

last time I was home, that chik fil a was closed. maybe something was just going on when I was in town?

[HRVA]

The Tru hotel by the Outlets is under construction. The site has shifted to behind the existing hotels with a Mission BBQ slated for the original location. 

 

[Virginia City]

Never heard of Moo Pizza.

[Urbanlooker]

13 minutes ago, Virginia City said:

Never heard of Moo Pizza.

I believe that's Mod Pizza there's a few starting to pop up around the 757 it's basically a chipotle but for pizza where you ask for size and then walk through and say what you want on it. 

[Virginia City]

On 6/26/2019 at 11:56 PM, Urbanlooker said:

I believe that's Mod Pizza there's a few starting to pop up around the 757 it's basically a chipotle but for pizza where you ask for size and then walk through and say what you want on it. 

You know I think I might have been to one or one like it in Wards Corner.

[Norf Native]

The Wards Corner pizza place is called Your Pie.  It's like a Subway shop where you go through and pick your crust type and toppings then they bake it.

[BeagleAccountant]

A new Staybridge Suites at 1581 Premium Outlets Boulevard is on the Architectural Review Board agenda for July 10th. This is the lot directly adjacent to the small strip mall that includes Fat Burger and sandwiched between the street and the Tru hotel.

There are more details at the agenda link:
http://norfolkcityva.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=1&ID=2340&Inline=True

Edited June 22, 2023 by BeagleAccountant

[baobabs727]

Okay, for our few remaining  resident commercial real estate experts....and everyone else of course.  

So my question is, if you will remember in the run up to the development of the outlet mall, there was breathless reportage in local media indicating that property owners and the cities of Norfolk and VB, as well as I'm assuming the airport authority, were fielding multiple calls weekly from developers from all over the place re: development/redevelopment opportunities near the airport, proximate to the new outlet mall, etc.  Additionally, we were told that there would be a massive retail/entertainment restaurant development of over 250,000 ft coming from  Simon and SL Nusbaum. CEO of Simon made at least one speech... at the Grand opening no less,  I believe,  wherein he absolutely gushed over the Norfolk Market and his excitement for possible future expansion of the outlets plus the aforesaid partnership with SLN  on the major outparcel at the entrance that used to be part and parcel of Lake Wright golf course.                                                                   

However, as you also may know, just about as soon as the outlets opened, Simon dropped the plans for expansion and also cut ties with SLN re: their partnership on the retail/entertainment/restaurant development project. Without comment if I recall.  I realize that the economy had shifted somewhat in the months leading up to the Mall's opening relative further weakening in bricks and mortar retail.... even in the outlet space/world, but does anyone else find it strange that it "all" collapsed so quickly? And still nothing. Years later!?

Indeed, when you drive through the mall (which I did today...and it looks like a ghost town when you come in off of Northampton ...plus there's trash everywhere) you are immediately struck by those giant, aging black and white signs promoting the aforementioned development. while weeds grow tall and nothing....nothing has been developed  besides a tiny strip mall, a hotel, a Chick fil-a and Mission BBQ. To my knowledge none of those other purported (in the media)  multiple private property owners, City/ public lands and / or airport authority lands have been touched.

Why were the news reports so wrong? What was all the fuss about?

I digress, but it's sort of reminds me of what Chuck Rigney said recently about the alleged myriad  redevelopment inquiries at the oceanfront. Well, call cynical or crazy, but I will believe all of that when I see it!!

Can someone explain why people in power continually blow so much smoke up our arses? 

All smoke, rarely fire.   

Edited yesterday at 12:28 AM by baobabs727