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Beau Rivage (new apartment tower for Fort Norfolk)

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Actually, It's this.

"Separately, the developers who turned the old Krisp-Pak building on Front Street in Fort Norfolk into loft apartments successfully bid on an old waterfront warehouse in that area and plan to turn it into apartments and develop another apartment building nearby."

http://hamptonroads.com/2014/02/two-more-norfolk-apartment-projects-works

Good find. Looks like we have another high rise on our plate. I'll have to keep a lookout in design review to see what other details we can find.

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If we can get this tower plus the second Harbor's Edge tower built, we really will have a "midtown" area over there.

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Well then, awesome! I just, on a whim googled Norfolk highrise development" to see what would pop up. I like the "sail" design. I hope it comes to fruition unlike all the other cool architectural designs that end up getting watered down. (Fort Nofolk Plaza).

On another note, I was in DT Nashville all last week. It was a cool city. It has some trendy, revitalized areas around downtown that would be like this.

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Yeah, I was there a month ago and actually meant to mention the same thing. It's a very busy downtown too. Lots of people walking around.

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The sailboat design is really cool!

 

I used to work on WVEC, and I'm guessing it's the area directly across from the back the station, on Front Street. There were vacant warehouses there, which were torn down about 7 years ago. 

 

FWIW, tearing down the warehouses provided a really nice view on the water. But I always thought a mini-town center development would look nice over there, and compliment DT Norfolk nicely. With the vacant warehouse across from PETA being renovated, the new lofts (former Kris-Pak building) and LRT, there's a lot of potential for Fort Norfolk. Apparently that stretch somehow connects to DT for pedestrians/bikers...something I didn't even realize until recently.

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Fort Norfolk has lots of potential. And it's right there where LRT begins which is a big plus.

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If you look at the picture properties, it is dated:

 

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:35:59 PM

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If you look at the picture properties, it is dated:

 

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:35:59 PM

The pilot article is dated 2-21-2014 and referred specifically to this property. The land on the water used to be owned by the state and required a change in the law before it could get transferred to developers. This happened last year and it's part of the reason you haven't seen movement on any of the properties until now.

If you look at the picture properties, it is dated:

 

Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:35:59 PM

Actually, which image are you referring to? I didn't see a date on the rendering.

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Here's another computer sketch that wasn't in the link.

The image on the link under "mixed use."

It's a little more refined.

http://www.rdapc.com/Multi-Family%20New.html

I wish they would make that rendering bigger. When you click on the image it takes you to the old rendering.

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This project has been updated with a new, more detailed rendering for the low/midrise portion that is to be attached to the highrise. No new renderings for the highrise unfortunately. This project is now under "hospitality" instead of "mixed use" Indicating a hotel of some sorts (though I wouldn't be surprised if apartments are still planned). With all the stuff from EVMS and River Tower a hotel in that location makes a lot of sense. The low rise may also be a disguised parking garage with some office/retail wrapped around it.

 

Beau Rivage midrise.JPG

Beau Rivage highrise.JPG

I'm getting about 23 floors in this slightly more detailed rendering of the full project.

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Where exactly would this project be situated? On Front Street where the old warehouses used to be? I'm having a hard time placing it.

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I think so. The old link had a description and an address. They haven't updated the address on the new link. 

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Posted (edited)

The early plot map showed it right on the water with a marina attached to it.

Edited by metalman

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1 hour ago, vdogg said:

This project has been updated with a new, more detailed rendering for the low/midrise portion that is to be attached to the highrise. No new renderings for the highrise unfortunately. This project is now under "hospitality" instead of "mixed use" Indicating a hotel of some sorts (though I wouldn't be surprised if apartments are still planned). With all the stuff from EVMS and River Tower and hotel in that location makes a lot of sense. The low rise may also be a disguised parking garage with some office/retail wrapped around it.

 

Beau Rivage midrise.JPG

Beau Rivage highrise.JPG

I'm getting about 23 floors in this slightly more detailed rendering of the full project.

Can you please provide a link to the site where this info. is? Thank you.

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Posted (edited)

So these are the same folks that are doing Front Street Flats....

Do we have any confirmation anywhere that this B.R. project is still alive, or could it be that the  design firm just put up a prettier image for their own marketing purposes? 

Remember, this is the same guy who was behind the American Cigar Factory, and we know what happened to that project. F.S. Flats has also been excruciatingly slow. If the Monument  Companies of Richmond had won some of these bids, these projects would've been done. Period. But we've got these local people running around buying stuff they can't digest and then years later things are still vacant.  And in the case of A.C.F.----HISTORY DESTROYED!!

https://www.google.com/amp/pilotonline.com/news/government/local/norfolk-starts-tearing-down-historic-american-cigar-co-building-after/article_5c768403-c228-57d1-b7a5-a02d150d2d9e.amp.html

 

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In the Cigar Factory's defense, wasn't some of the irreversible damage caused by Hurricane Matthew last year? I seem to remember that really throwing a wrench in the plans, hence the pillars trying to hold up the front of the building?

That and I think the building had already deteriorated over the years.

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I think he's saying that if the Richmond company would have developed the cigar factory it would have been done a while ago and the hurricane would have done any damage.

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Gotcha. That does make sense...I could see that.

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Posted (edited)

55 minutes ago, baobabs727 said:

So these are the same folks that are doing Front Street Flats....

Do we have any confirmation anywhere that this B.R. project is still alive, or could it be that the  design firm just put up a prettier image for their own marketing purposes? 

Remember, this is the same guy who was behind the American Cigar Factory, and we know what happened to that project. F.S. Flats has also been excruciatingly slow. If the Monument  Companies of Richmond had won some of these bids, these projects would've been done. Period. But we've got these local people running around buying stuff they can't digest and then years later things are still vacant.  And in the case of A.C.F.----HISTORY DESTROYED!!

https://www.google.com/amp/pilotonline.com/news/government/local/norfolk-starts-tearing-down-historic-american-cigar-co-building-after/article_5c768403-c228-57d1-b7a5-a02d150d2d9e.amp.html

 

Thanks for the link vdogg.

I have not seen a link between this "Beau Rivage" project and McCullough. Although I could have missed it. In the VP article there is mention that they McCullough's Co.) purchased an adjacent lot for future apartment development, but I believe they are referring to the Front St. Flats Phase II. 

BTW, Front St. Flats is moving along just fine. There was a lot of prep work involved in this structure, but it is getting there.

As for ACF, I think it was a combination of storm damage, and difficulty securing financing. The former may have played a role in the latter.

I can't help but think that with the"Beau Rivage" name that it is perhaps the same group who owns the casino in Biloxi holding land in hopes that VA. eventually passes pro-gaming legislation. I could be wrong, but it would seem that the name would be protected from use by otbers, and the architecture does kind of look casino-like.

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