GRDadof3

One Fulton Square (at Carlton)

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GRUrbanist: 

 

I cant seem to find this on the MiBiz website, but it appears, according to the hard copy, that the plot of land that was to become the Family Fare gas station has a plan in place for something far more appealing.

 

Orion Construction has plans for a 7.4 Million mixed-use project that tentatively called "One Carlton Place" will have 44 rental units "with a mix of regular apartments and ground-floor townhomes, along with ground-floor retail and restaurant space".

 

There are no renderings, according to the article. I also didnt see any statement on the height.

 

 

So this is a big win for the area, and will well-anchor that part of the district! Cant wait to see what it will look like.

 

 

http://mibiz.com/news/design-build/item/22109-orion-plans-

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Just saw drilling going on near the corner on Fulton.

 

Good work WMrapids. They were gone by the time I went by this afternoon.

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The two houses and the empty lot across the street sold, and fast (11 days on the market). All three combined were listed at $299,700 for about 1/5th of an acre.

 

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Wonder if Family Fare is going to do the gas station here instead?

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City engineering is looking at preliminary plans, site concepts, parking, etc for this coming up on the 20th. Seems to be a lot more of what Eastown (and Gilmore actually) was looking for for this site. 

 

Main building is 4 floors, with upstairs apartments. 57 units of apartments total. 

 

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I feel bad for the renter in the one bedroom apartment behind the 1350sf retail space.  They'll be right by the dumpsters for the restaurant and retails spaces.  They should just increase that retail space to go from front to back.

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City engineering is looking at preliminary plans, site concepts, parking, etc for this coming up on the 20th. Seems to be a lot more of what Eastown (and Gilmore actually) was looking for for this site. 

 

Main building is 4 floors, with upstairs apartments. 57 units of apartments total. 

 

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"Gee, I wish I had a generic, ugly gas station instead of this." -- Nobody. Ever.

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I just hope that some dope that lives nearby doesn't work to get this scrapped because of some nonsense about it being too tall or that it will "increase traffic and noise".

You just know that there will be one that will try. People of Eastown need to embrace this unless they want something along the lines of that gas station idea to come back again. This is just too good of a development to screw up because people take seriously the cliches from NIMBY concern trolls.

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I just realized it's called One Fulton Square now, instead of 1 Carlton Place. Should I change the topic heading? Or do people know this by the Carlton name? 

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It begins?

 

Eastown Flats must be filling up pretty fast if they're that bullish on the rental market. 

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I think these are new images of this project.

 

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Nice find. 

 

There sure is a strange collection of construction equipment on the site, and a small pile of dirt.

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HUGE improvement. Those actually look like proper buildings now. The previous renderings looked like they budgeted for smaller buildings, but decided to add on a bunch of floors. I hope the detailing ends up looking as good as in these renderings.

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I didn't hate the other design, but these look more like buildings that might be around in 50-75 years. :)

EDIT: Scratch that. I liked the old 4 story building but hated the faux peaks of the 3 story. VERY big improvement!

Joe

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HUGE improvement. Those actually look like proper buildings now. The previous renderings looked like they budgeted for smaller buildings, but decided to add on a bunch of floors. I hope the detailing ends up looking as good as in these renderings.

I agree.  Very nicely done compared to a lot of prior proposals.  It makes me really happy to see architects finally learning how to design traditional buildings that someone won't want to pull down in 20 years because they've become outdated.  So kudos to Concept Design for finally coming up with something that looks sophisticated instead of amateurish.  It would be really nice to see some additional cast-stone ornamentation on the corner building and a stronger cornice to emphasize a Craftsman-style aesthetic even more, but I suppose I shouldn't push my luck. 

With a decent design, the real key will be keeping Orion from value-engineering it, replacing all the brick and cast stone with fiber cement and concrete blocks, running dozens of vents through the sidewalls, and slapping in the wrong color windows.  Not that they would ever jeopardize their integrity by cheapening it up after they sell the project to neighbors with good-looking renderings, of course...

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HUGE improvement. Those actually look like proper buildings now. The previous renderings looked like they budgeted for smaller buildings, but decided to add on a bunch of floors. I hope the detailing ends up looking as good as in these renderings.

I agree.  Very nicely done compared to a lot of prior proposals.  It makes me really happy to see architects finally learning how to design traditional buildings that someone won't want to pull down in 20 years because they've become outdated.  So kudos to Concept Design for finally coming up with something that looks sophisticated instead of amateurish.  It would be really nice to see some additional cast-stone ornamentation on the corner building and a stronger cornice to emphasize a Craftsman-style aesthetic even more, but I suppose I shouldn't push my luck. 

With a decent design, the real key will be keeping Orion from value-engineering it, replacing all the brick and cast stone with fiber cement and concrete blocks, running dozens of vents through the sidewalls, and slapping in the wrong color windows.  Not that they would ever jeopardize their integrity by cheapening it up after they sell the project to neighbors with good-looking renderings, of course...

 

If you're talking about the roofline of the corner building, I agree. It could use a stronger "cap" on it. The wall just seems to disappear into space, like a modern facade would (except on a traditional brick facade). 

Other than that, looks like a perfect fit for that corner. 

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