Citi Tower | 23-Story Residential [Under Construction]

[JFW657]

I guess it could be a fire code issue, but I cannot see why.

If anything, it seems like door thresholds would be something that multifamily residential high-rises would required to have rather than vice versa.

If there was a fire in the hallway and you couldn't get out, it seems like you'd want something there to block out the smoke.

Who knows.

 

 

 

 

[Nick@Night]

The vue has the same hallway noise issue. Not too bad, but it's there. However, noise from neighboring balconies is almost unreasonable. It's not very often people actually use their balconies, but if someone is having a conversation in a neighboring unit, they may as well be in your living room.

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[HankStrong]

19 hours ago, UngaBungalow said:

Noise complaints at 55 West are a big problem - http://bungalower.com/2016/01/19/police-500-calls-2015-55-west/

Either you're using this as some odd clickbait or you can't read your own link.

Both are sad.

[jack]

16 hours ago, jrs2 said:

I was told by the GC, a friend of mine, with B&G, back when it first opened it had something to do with the fire code.

If anything, it could be the HVAC in the hallway sucks out the moisture in the units under the door. That is the only thing I can think of. Saves money by not upgrading the handlers in the units.   

The VUE has the same issue and I told a friend to install a threshold. That is where the noise is coming in. 

The apartments downtown are a mix bag. Some have thresholds, some don't. 

[nite owℓ]

On 8/24/2016 at 7:37 AM, tennis32801 said:

Maybe because Skyhouse is a cookie cutter midrise that are built in other locations. And Im sure the quality of Citi will be better too.

I was referring to the "Lean" method that was used to construct Skyhouse. The concept is based on Japanese principles of waste reduction and modeled after the Toyota Production System. They focused on reducing the "waste of motion, material and time" by implementing well-oiled pattern of repetition made possible by dividing the job into smaller-than-ordinary bites. By using the lean method, Skyhouse was able to complete each floor in 3 days in what would normally take 5 days.

Turner Construction also implemented some elements of the Lean method to construct the Vue, the expansion of the Hard Rock Casino in Tampa, and the Four Seasons resort at Disney. The Lean method is about eliminating waste and does not adversely affect quality. It's about working smarter.

 

[nite owℓ]

I believe the large undercuts in apartment doors are meant to promote indoor ventilation/air flow into the units. Sealing off these gaps are probably not ideal if there is no other source of fresh air to the unit (sliding door, operable windows, etc). Just something to consider.

One of the first things I did to my unit when I moved in was install closed cell foam weatherproofing around the perimeter of the door jamb. That alone has greatly reduced sound transmission from the hallway. I still have a gap under the door though. Personally, I don't like bulky thresholds at the entrance so I've been eyeing automatic door sweeps that only engage when the door is closed and supposedly offer greater soundproofing as well. Once installed, I'll paint the automatic sweep to match the door in order to conceal it's appearance.

[jrs2]

^^

I don't think they can build a parking deck pedestal for a tower using the "Lean" method; maybe the residential levels above it...

[metal93]

I suppose for parking decks in high rise residential buildings, it would take some time, taking special structural issues, elevator cores, utility shafts, and ground level retail into account.

But if it's just a parking garage by itself and nothing else, those can be largely prefabricated or use "lean" methods. Those get build quite quickly.

Just off I-4 where the Verizon offices are in Lake Mary I saw what appeared to be a 3-5 level garage (built by Finfrock, I believe) go up in about a month.

[JFW657]

Stand alone decks are like giant tinker toy sets.

Everything pre-fabbed and set in place with cranes.

Of course, if you're building 30 stories on top of it, entirely different story.

 

[jrs2]

That's exactly right.  Finrock built that deck by Verizon in Heathrow.  Farther up just north of 46A, a new office building and parking garage also just went up, and very quickly.

[JFW657]

This deck between Pine & Church off of Rosalind is a good example of a totally prefabbed deck...

The only parts that get built by hand labor are the elevator shafts.

[UngaBungalow]

On 8/24/2016 at 1:38 PM, AndyPok1 said:

No.  No they aren't.  

haha I'm not going to argue about it, it's in the police reports.

[AndyPok1]

13 hours ago, UngaBungalow said:

haha I'm not going to argue about it, it's in the police reports.

Have you actually paid the money to get the physical copies of the 500+ police reports and do research like a journalist would?  Or are you basing it solely off the high-level call list?  Because even on the call list there's only 5 Noise Violations.  Most are for trespassers/drunk pedestrians/etc because the 55 West address is used for the courtyard and surrounding areas.  Of those 500 calls, I'd wager no more than 10% are for things in the apartment floors themselves.

[John Hargrove]

Agree completely. We have an enormous amount of people who walk under our building, and things do get sketchy down there on a nightly basis. I only ever hear noise from the hallway, and even then it isn't that bad. I'd say in 6 years of living in 55 West I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've even heard my neighbors through the walls. We also have a public parking garage as a part of our building, so that's a source of trouble too.

I won't sit here and tell you that 55 West isn't full of crime (it is. We've had SWAT shootouts, I watched my next door neighbor get pulled out of his apartment and arrested, I've found passed out drunk people in the hallways and have had homeless people banging on my door). But noise isn't really one of the issues here, surprisingly.

To bring this back around to Citi Tower, my hope is that it has the build quality of 55 West's guts with better fixtures. But, it's apartments, so I am not hopeful. I think 55W got away with this because it was originally constructed as condos.

 

[gibby]

Homeless people banging on your door?  How did that happen?

[John Hargrove]

8 hours ago, gibby said:

Homeless people banging on your door?  How did that happen?

There is a totally unguarded entrance to the east elevators. No security whatsoever, and the door is broken more often than not. You can literally walk up to 55W and to the front door of any unit in the entire building without ever crossing path with security. 55 West basically has no security.

[Boomer136]

For a second there I thought the banging on the door was going to have the "let him/her out" punch line. I am aghast that an underwriter would allow for/management would pay the premiums of an underwriter knowledgeable of that situation. 

[JFW657]

Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

[Jernigan]

Visible from across Lake Eola

[John Hargrove]

The eye art installation makes it look like someone pinned a ribbon on The Waverly.

 

Edited September 16, 2016 by castorvx

[dcluley98]

6 hours ago, Jernigan said:

Visible from across Lake Eola

 

Yup Jernigan.  It is gonna look awesome with that crown and the lighting in the gap there.  That's exactly what I was pointing out conceptually in page 5 of this thread: 

Good to see it actually working out how we expected.  What a great addition to the South Eola section of skyline!

[RedStar25]

On 8/29/2016 at 3:00 AM, castorvx said:

 

On Sunday OUC was out there with several trucks working on the lines in front of the building. I'm guessing they are starting to put the wires underground. 

I took a walk around Lake Eola Sunday and the building was looking good. 

Also, I can't figure out why I keep "quoting" random people when I've never hit the "quote" button. 

Edited September 19, 2016 by RedStar25
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[JFW657]

On 9/16/2016 at 4:12 PM, castorvx said:

The eye art installation makes it look like someone pinned a ribbon on The Waverly.

 

I like the eye thing, but I question it's placement.

 

 

 

[jrs2]

...the Eye of Horus

[prahaboheme]

2 hours ago, JFW657 said:

I like the eye thing, but I question it's placement.

 

 

 

I wouldn't be sad to see this one moved elsewhere. I find it to be a bit brutal for such a serene location. Imagine this thing as the centerpiece of a Savannah square -- pick any of them (all 25). It wouldn't work.

A prominent entrypoint to Lake Eola would work better here.

Edited September 19, 2016 by prahaboheme