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walker    171

story and rendering of Icon II

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EDIT: well since I first posted this WOODTV has removed the rendering and replaced it with a video.  But you can still see it on the video for about a second so watch closely.  

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joeDowntown    664

Wow, that is pretty tall (16 stories). Although I bet once MSU is done and they sell the other parcels, it may not look too large or out of context. I'm sure people here are going to love the parking levels. ;)

 

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MJLO    340

Between this, the hotel and some of the other projects MoNo. will look completely different.  It has the potential to be all "mid-risey".  That's assuming any and all of this gets built.

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GRDadof3    1826

Fortunately, I saved the rendering to my phone. :)

 

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I think Concept Design Group is allergic to screened parking. Eesh. The city should really start taking issue with this. One floor up from ground floor still affects the aesthetic of the ground floor. 

Speaking of that site, I was over in that area the other day and got a picture looking South toward MSU and The Rowe. If it weren't for the highway, it would feel like it was in the same neighborhood. 

 

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ctpgr34    184

Although the highway is there, MSU and the Rowe are considered part of the North Monroe Neighborhood

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GRDadof3    1826

Although the highway is there, MSU and the Rowe are considered part of the North Monroe Neighborhood

Yes, but the highway certainly makes it feel like it's a world away, or at least "downtown" and not NoMO.

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joeDowntown    664

I think once the whole MSU "site" gets built, it will seem much more contiguous- at least from a skyline view. The Post office along with the Highway makes that section of Monroe feel totally isolated from the rest of the city. It's a long, lonely walk to Michigan. :)

Joe

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Jippy    82

Fortunately, I saved the rendering to my phone. :)

 

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This garage design should be criminal. I honestly can't understand how they think this is okay. I also don't understand how the City continues to allow this to happen. 

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joeDowntown    664

If I'm reading this right and it says 275 feet, it'd be just a bit taller than the Bridgewater Place.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Grand_Rapids

 

 

Actually it says 175 ft which would make it the 11th but I think it is actually a bit taller if you look at the rendering (the 275 is not an indicator of height as it starts above 100 at ground level). Looks like it is about 185-190 feet to me.

Joe

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GRDadof3    1826

This garage design should be criminal. I honestly can't understand how they think this is okay. I also don't understand how the City continues to allow this to happen. 

I don't think there's anything the current code to prevent it. The language is mostly pertaining to ground floor. But it's really awful. None of the standalone parking garages look this bad, so why allow this?

Those guys at concept design <edited> 

 

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RegalTDP    266

I don't think there's anything the current code to prevent it. The language is mostly pertaining to ground floor. But it's really awful. None of the standalone parking garages look this bad, so why allow this?

Those guys at concept design <edited> 

 

Those floors look like they're still under construction.

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GRDadof3    1826

Those floors look like they're still under construction.

 

This is the FINISHED product on Arena Place, where the parking garage is. Get used to it, the future of downtown Grand Rapids. I do like how I can see what brand of car is parking in the garage, count the German vs Swedish vs American made cars. Keeps the kids from getting bored. 

 

It's basically the architectural equivalent of a plumber showing butt crack. 

 

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x99    359

 

This is the FINISHED product on Arena Place, where the parking garage is. Get used to it, the future of downtown Grand Rapids. I do like how I can see what brand of car is parking in the garage, count the German vs Swedish vs American made cars. Keeps the kids from getting bored. 

 

It's basically the architectural equivalent of a plumber showing butt crack. 

 

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Remind me again which group of talentless hacks designed this building?  Oh, wait.  Concept Design!!11!!!!1!!!!  They say their clients "understand the value of good design" as their tagline, or some nonsense like that.  No.  No, they do not if my eyes are any guide.  They appear to understand the value of cheap.  And while it is perfectly possible to combine cheap with attractive, Concept Design IMHO is apparently clueless about how to do it.  My god are these awful.

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WMrapids    247

Actually it says 175 ft which would make it the 11th but I think it is actually a bit taller if you look at the rendering (the 275 is not an indicator of height as it starts above 100 at ground level). Looks like it is about 185-190 feet to me.

Joe

Ok, I thought that over 200 feet would be strange. Thanks!

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wingbert    488

 

This is the FINISHED product on Arena Place, where the parking garage is. Get used to it, the future of downtown Grand Rapids. I do like how I can see what brand of car is parking in the garage, count the German vs Swedish vs American made cars. Keeps the kids from getting bored. 

 

It's basically the architectural equivalent of a plumber showing butt crack. 

 

 

Did you know that floors 6-12 of this iconic building are parking levels?  Concept Design would like you to envision how much nicer it would look if they had left those floors open instead of integrating them into the overall look of the building.

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Jippy    82

I don't think there's anything the current code to prevent it. The language is mostly pertaining to ground floor. But it's really awful. None of the standalone parking garages look this bad, so why allow this?

Those guys at concept design <edited> 

 

Which parties would oppose changes to code that would require parking garages from being screened? This really seems to be a GR-thing (or a Concept thing?), as I rarely see this type of garage design in other cities.  

GR has decent requirements from screening parking in surface lots...but screening requirements apply to all parking types? Most growing cities (vs ones that are begging for any development) have code requirements that require a level of architectural treatment to screen garages....most stringently the requirement is an active use (meaning a parking space can not be adjacent to the facade), others require a combination of active use, or architectural or art panels. Architectural panels are commonplace in Chicago. 

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x99    359

GR has decent requirements from screening parking in surface lots...but screening requirements apply to all parking types? Most growing cities (vs ones that are begging for any development) have code requirements that require a level of architectural treatment to screen garages....most stringently the requirement is an active use (meaning a parking space can not be adjacent to the facade), others require a combination of active use, or architectural or art panels. Architectural panels are commonplace in Chicago. 

I've said it before and I'll say it again:  If you look at buildings from the sidewalk, the parking lot firms that designed the Ellis ramp and the Monroe Center ramp have a substantially higher level of urban design talent than the majority of architects currently being hired to design actual buildings in this city.  It's a sad, sad commentary on the state of affairs.  

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GRDadof3    1826

The Rivers Edge project has been amended a bit to put restaurant seating on the river side of the building (they're seeking a variance). The restaurant has a name, "Shell - A Raw Bar", which I can't imagine they have a restaurant tenant already??

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